Canadians' views are hardening on regular immigrants, who have been blamed for increasing housing costs and employment challenges
65 per cent of Canadians say Canada is accepting too many legal immigrants. That figure, less than a year ago in February, was just 50 per cent. In March 2019, only 35 per cent of Canadians held that view.
I haven’t lived in Canada since around 2006. I try to keep up with the news because my family lives there and the talk about this all the time. I don’t use Google News, I don’t go on Reddit, and this article managed to make it’s way through the digestive track of the Internet to land in my feed, maybe on Mastodon.
So, I read it, and I was a little irked by the numbers. I shared it here and now I have the feedback I want.
It is heartwarming to be judged so immediately based solely on the source of something I shared. Lemmy is truly becoming Reddit.
It is heartwarming to be judged so immediately based solely on the source of something I shared. Lemmy is truly becoming Reddit.
Do you routinely get this defensive and play victim when asked simple questions?
So, I read it, and I was a little irked by the numbers. I shared it here and now I have the feedback I want.
The feedback you wanted was “Fuck Nat. po.”, “Postmedia is stepping up its Fox Newsification of Canadian news”, “Comments on /r/Canada are so fucking weird. Someone literally said “I was an immigrant turned citizen and I support this”. It’s like: now that you have your citizenship you aren’t considered an immigrant anymore? Wow. Edit changes “I am” for “I was””, “https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221026/dq221026a-eng.htm ??? 23% of all Canadians are first-generation immigrants. Permanent Residents are legal immigrants. 48% probably includes some of these immigrants that want to deport themselves. What are y’all smoking?”?
I haven’t lived in Canada since around 2006. I try to keep up with the news because my family lives there and the talk about this all the time. I don’t use Google News, I don’t go on Reddit, and this article managed to make it’s way through the digestive track of the Internet to land in my feed, maybe on Mastodon.
While I appreciate a response, it doesn’t answer the question I posed. I also don’t care that much if you want to keep being weird about it. I was just curious as to why you support the publication after agreeing with the statement “Fuck Nat. po.”.
I have nothing to defend or of which to be the victim?
I’m not a fan of the NP or the Globe, but I still read the news. Sometimes I’m disappointed with the CBC. I like seeing other ideas, though. I like seeing how the news can spin and slant things. It is part of my work.
I didn’t mean to come off as a c-nt and make you waste you time with this long response.
??? 23% of all Canadians are first-generation immigrants. Permanent Residents are legal immigrants. 48% probably includes some of these immigrants that want to deport themselves. What are y’all smoking?
We’re an immigrant nation, which is arguably how we’ve kept a lid on xenophobia until now. (And still are, probably; they chose the most doomer stats for the headline)
Comments on /r/Canada are so fucking weird. Someone literally said “I was an immigrant turned citizen and I support this”.
It’s like: now that you have your citizenship you aren’t considered an immigrant anymore? Wow.
sadly, i have heard these comments from people in my area. they of course are talking about Indian students. “they take up bus space, they take our jobs, they open their own restaurants, they don’t follow Canadian values”. a lot of hate spewing from these people.
Canadian values seem to have evaporated in the last ten years. I feel like we’re almost unidentifiable when viewed next to Americans in a crowd now. There’s still a few big differences, but politically we’re in near lock step just a few years behind America. At least, that’s the vibe I get speaking with anyone older than 40. Social media has turned Canada into a Kuato-like attachment to America’s hip, except instead of calling the shots we’re just along for the ride as the host begins its descent into a death rattle.
Yes there are alot of things i find similar to how people act here vs the US. We need to bring back our separate identity but we also have to remember they are our neighbors down there. People don’t even talk to their neighbors here anymore. Having said that, these people have been very kind to me and down to earth, i have not seen anything negative about them.
I don’t know of a single Timmie’s in my region which isn’t staffed entirely by Filipinos or other foreign nationals that live 20 to a flat that is also owned by their employer.
We deport these people, and prices of a lot of things are going to spike dramatically. Those business owners won’t be able to earn those many millions a year if they can only hire Canadian citizens.
Imagine fucking mass migration policy this bad to where the most welcoming immigrant country turned on you…
Justin is a fucking idiot. You have build housing and infrastructure if you want to import this many people. This is common sense, they know this… so why are they doing it anyway?
Housing cost in Canada is meme but hey lets add 1 million people into country with 2 million beds short.
Justin is a fucking idiot. You have build housing and infrastructure if you want to import this many people.
Say it with me: The Federal Government is not responsible for housing and infrastructure.
Now that we’ve got that out of the way, it’s up to provincial and municipal leadership to stop allowing so many single, detached homes and start developing some higher density housing.
But first, you have to convince the NIMBYs that higher density homes won’t send their community into ruin… Good luck!
Add in roads/traffic, energy, prisons, social services, long-term care, police, snow removal, etc., etc., etc.
Literally, the things that affect people on a daily basis are NOT matters of the Federal Government.
So when the 'fuck Trudeau", flag-waving, F150 crowd is pissed off about their current situation, they should stop to think why they keep voting for a Conservative government.
Unless they have a grievance about our national parks, foreign policy, aboriginal land, or national defence, they should focus their anger on the leadership who are actually causing harm to this country and their communities.
Being a citizen does not make you any less of an immigrant. Being a descendant of immigrants also, surprisingly still makes you an immigrant. So perhaps we should stop talking about punishing immigrants as if it’s some new novel thing that’s causing all our ills. Immigration evidently worked for all of us, so let’s try not to sh*t all over the people that follow us. Immigration built Canada and, if you’ve noticed our birth rate over the past decade, without immigration, Canada will die. Frankly we need them more than they need us.
Oh, so several generations of my family were born here, we don’t have a single country of origin, (even if we knew it) doesn’t make me a natural born resident of my geographic area?
Fuck off with that dipshit idea.
Edit: please point out where being born in a country makes you an immigrant there.
simple. throw yourself prostrate at the mercy of the local First Nation for refugee status. that’s the correct thing to do.
If not, you could be at risk of being an undocumented stateless person to wander the seas looking for a new home. Just like the boat people of not many decades ago that were despised by many of the so called “true north white and free”…
… or the Sea People, despised by the Hittites in the books of Joshua and Judges (bronze age collapse)
@HikingVet I first heard that , thrown as a taunt, at a small bridge crossing into Metepanagiag where a small blockade was assembled as a response to a commercial fishing lodge being put up at Curvington/Second Oxbow and some after skirmishes of the fisheries war. the comment may have also been thrown about around the lack of consultation during the failed Meech Lake Accord.
As in “who do you think you are? the true north white and free?!” they convinced me to stand with them. i never regret
@HikingVet no. one of the young first nations protesters yelled it at me. i had to look at my honkey privileged self, and realized that the bridge may have been the king george highway, but it was cutting through their absolute rightful territory.
Maybe the indigenous alone should have the right to choose who they want to come as students, refugees, workers, and professionals; and who will be replaced.
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Fuck Nat. po.
True
If ‘Fuck Nat. po.’ = True, why did you post it?
Because I happened to be reading it and it is ok to read and share things from sources you don’t necessarily like.
What makes you want to support the source if you do not like the source?
Presumably, the content was interesting enough to make that sacrifice.
I haven’t lived in Canada since around 2006. I try to keep up with the news because my family lives there and the talk about this all the time. I don’t use Google News, I don’t go on Reddit, and this article managed to make it’s way through the digestive track of the Internet to land in my feed, maybe on Mastodon.
So, I read it, and I was a little irked by the numbers. I shared it here and now I have the feedback I want.
It is heartwarming to be judged so immediately based solely on the source of something I shared. Lemmy is truly becoming Reddit.
Do you routinely get this defensive and play victim when asked simple questions?
The feedback you wanted was “Fuck Nat. po.”, “Postmedia is stepping up its Fox Newsification of Canadian news”, “Comments on /r/Canada are so fucking weird. Someone literally said “I was an immigrant turned citizen and I support this”. It’s like: now that you have your citizenship you aren’t considered an immigrant anymore? Wow. Edit changes “I am” for “I was””, “https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221026/dq221026a-eng.htm ??? 23% of all Canadians are first-generation immigrants. Permanent Residents are legal immigrants. 48% probably includes some of these immigrants that want to deport themselves. What are y’all smoking?”?
While I appreciate a response, it doesn’t answer the question I posed. I also don’t care that much if you want to keep being weird about it. I was just curious as to why you support the publication after agreeing with the statement “Fuck Nat. po.”.
I have nothing to defend or of which to be the victim?
I’m not a fan of the NP or the Globe, but I still read the news. Sometimes I’m disappointed with the CBC. I like seeing other ideas, though. I like seeing how the news can spin and slant things. It is part of my work.
I didn’t mean to come off as a c-nt and make you waste you time with this long response.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221026/dq221026a-eng.htm
??? 23% of all Canadians are first-generation immigrants. Permanent Residents are legal immigrants. 48% probably includes some of these immigrants that want to deport themselves. What are y’all smoking?
And most Canadians are descended from immigrants who arrived in the past century.
Like 98% if you extend that to two centuries.
We’re an immigrant nation, which is arguably how we’ve kept a lid on xenophobia until now. (And still are, probably; they chose the most doomer stats for the headline)
It’s due to the housing crisis. If we had the infrastructure to support the influx of immigrants, Canadians wouldn’t be so opposed to them.
Now’s that’s the title of a study I want to read:
What are y’all smoking?
Abstract: Akrasia + Social Media = WTF
I’m not for mass deportation, but if you’re an immigrant yourself and you’re calling for this I think you should set a good example and take off.
I’m guessing it’s almost entirely within the 70% that “just” have immigrant grandparents.
Postmedia is stepping up its Fox Newsification of Canadian news
Comments on /r/Canada are so fucking weird. Someone literally said “I was an immigrant turned citizen and I support this”. It’s like: now that you have your citizenship you aren’t considered an immigrant anymore? Wow.
Edit changes “I am” for “I was”
sadly, i have heard these comments from people in my area. they of course are talking about Indian students. “they take up bus space, they take our jobs, they open their own restaurants, they don’t follow Canadian values”. a lot of hate spewing from these people.
Canadian values seem to have evaporated in the last ten years. I feel like we’re almost unidentifiable when viewed next to Americans in a crowd now. There’s still a few big differences, but politically we’re in near lock step just a few years behind America. At least, that’s the vibe I get speaking with anyone older than 40. Social media has turned Canada into a Kuato-like attachment to America’s hip, except instead of calling the shots we’re just along for the ride as the host begins its descent into a death rattle.
Yes there are alot of things i find similar to how people act here vs the US. We need to bring back our separate identity but we also have to remember they are our neighbors down there. People don’t even talk to their neighbors here anymore. Having said that, these people have been very kind to me and down to earth, i have not seen anything negative about them.
I don’t know of a single Timmie’s in my region which isn’t staffed entirely by Filipinos or other foreign nationals that live 20 to a flat that is also owned by their employer.
We deport these people, and prices of a lot of things are going to spike dramatically. Those business owners won’t be able to earn those many millions a year if they can only hire Canadian citizens.
Imagine fucking mass migration policy this bad to where the most welcoming immigrant country turned on you…
Justin is a fucking idiot. You have build housing and infrastructure if you want to import this many people. This is common sense, they know this… so why are they doing it anyway?
Housing cost in Canada is meme but hey lets add 1 million people into country with 2 million beds short.
Say it with me: The Federal Government is not responsible for housing and infrastructure.
Now that we’ve got that out of the way, it’s up to provincial and municipal leadership to stop allowing so many single, detached homes and start developing some higher density housing.
But first, you have to convince the NIMBYs that higher density homes won’t send their community into ruin… Good luck!
Our economy and growth are literally being strangled to death by NIMBYs and corrupt zoning
Its like health care, people complain to the PM, but its a provincial matter.
Add in roads/traffic, energy, prisons, social services, long-term care, police, snow removal, etc., etc., etc.
Literally, the things that affect people on a daily basis are NOT matters of the Federal Government.
So when the 'fuck Trudeau", flag-waving, F150 crowd is pissed off about their current situation, they should stop to think why they keep voting for a Conservative government.
Unless they have a grievance about our national parks, foreign policy, aboriginal land, or national defence, they should focus their anger on the leadership who are actually causing harm to this country and their communities.
well said.
** Unless you are a recognized native person, WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS ** Jfc, you people are dumb.
I am the descendant of immigrants.
Where would I be sent if deported?
I only have one citizenship.
Being a citizen does not make you any less of an immigrant. Being a descendant of immigrants also, surprisingly still makes you an immigrant. So perhaps we should stop talking about punishing immigrants as if it’s some new novel thing that’s causing all our ills. Immigration evidently worked for all of us, so let’s try not to sh*t all over the people that follow us. Immigration built Canada and, if you’ve noticed our birth rate over the past decade, without immigration, Canada will die. Frankly we need them more than they need us.
Oh, so several generations of my family were born here, we don’t have a single country of origin, (even if we knew it) doesn’t make me a natural born resident of my geographic area?
Fuck off with that dipshit idea.
Edit: please point out where being born in a country makes you an immigrant there.
simple. throw yourself prostrate at the mercy of the local First Nation for refugee status. that’s the correct thing to do.
If not, you could be at risk of being an undocumented stateless person to wander the seas looking for a new home. Just like the boat people of not many decades ago that were despised by many of the so called “true north white and free”…
… or the Sea People, despised by the Hittites in the books of Joshua and Judges (bronze age collapse)
I have spoken
-Ya’con the Gutian
Yeah, that’s a dumb take dude.
Gonna need a source on “true north white and free”…
Which version was that? because the official versions going back at least 4 decades didn’t say that.
@HikingVet I first heard that , thrown as a taunt, at a small bridge crossing into Metepanagiag where a small blockade was assembled as a response to a commercial fishing lodge being put up at Curvington/Second Oxbow and some after skirmishes of the fisheries war. the comment may have also been thrown about around the lack of consultation during the failed Meech Lake Accord.
As in “who do you think you are? the true north white and free?!” they convinced me to stand with them. i never regret
Oh, so you head someone say something racist and the rest of us have to accpet the brush?
@HikingVet no. one of the young first nations protesters yelled it at me. i had to look at my honkey privileged self, and realized that the bridge may have been the king george highway, but it was cutting through their absolute rightful territory.
Maybe the indigenous alone should have the right to choose who they want to come as students, refugees, workers, and professionals; and who will be replaced.
Play nice.
So someone yells racist shit at you and you just fold. Got it.