The Liberal leadership frontrunner is promising ‘change without change,’ with austerity, greenwashing, and more corporate handouts
In this 2021 book Value(s): Building A Better World For All, Carney tried to persuade us to believe in the free market—not just its merits, but its capacity to self-regulate, to be persuaded to do the right thing, to adopt “enlightened values,” to develop a kinder and gentler capitalism to meet a brutal moment.
This is the same Carney who played a key role in bailing out Canada’s banks during the global financial crisis.
The move ushered in more than a decade of cheap money, which in turn helped fuel a long-term, record-setting growth in the wealth gap while giving rise to financial bubbles and dodgy investments, driving up household debt, and exacerbating the housing crisis.
The asset-management firm Carney chaired, Brookfield, is another clear example of the fundamental inconsistency in believing the free market—perhaps led by the gentlest of hands by the state—is the way forward on climate.
It has “one of the biggest portfolios of dirty energy in the world,” says climate finance activist Jason Mogus, who worked with the Sunrise Project. “And they continue to expand it.”
A key problem humanity seems to have, which is exploited by politicians everywhere, is the affinity for black and white thinking.
Capitalism and even neoliberalism are not necessarily categorically terrible. Unregulated versions of these certainly are terrible and unsustainable. And some versions and implementations of ideologies or frameworks are net worse than others.
Absolute austerity, unregulated neoliberalism, unregulated capitalism, unopposed communism, etc, are all terrible, damaging and unsustainable. Unfortunately finding sustainable solutions is difficult and requires thought, time and dedication. And it requires vision and unifying leadership to sell it to the people.
None of these facts are wrong. Carney is a top-tier capitalist, no question. The thing is, what are the choices?
Three of the Liberal candidates are women. Not gonna win nationally. The other two are unknown MPs.
Polievre has no vision, just a strategy of division and dog whistles, á la Prez Chump. It’s getting old fast.
The NDP is still a fringe party with “visible minority” leader. Not gonna win nationally.
There’s a lot to dislike, and if the Liberals select him, they won’t get my vote. But I think he will be the next PM, and might even win the next election. Unfortunately, I think that will depend significantly on what Chump and the Villionaires do in the next six months. And that is volitilecapriciousunstable unpredictable!
Liberal by name and conservative by nature, or Conservative by name and rageful extremist by nature. Which will it be, Canada? What a political dilemma. If only there were some kind of third option.
It will be the former this round. Then work to replace Singh with someone electable who presents not simply a credible but a desirable, left alternative. And try them in the federal election after. Join unions while that’s going on.
This time around we’ll have to extend it for another four years. The NDP is currently polling at under 12% and 13 seats and it’s on a downward trajectory:
id rather go with the devil i know than pp. just recently that fella advocated for guard towers on the border, except i’ve drive along it for a long ways across mb, sk and ab. much of the time the border is ‘the field on that side of the street’, or ‘just past those trees’.
I don’t know if I agree with that assessment, but they do seem to have one writer who does nothing but write about how bad Carney is, and another who does nothing but write about how bad Freeland is.
The immediate national security concern is the person who has been endorsed by confirmed Nazi Elon Musk. In this dangerous moment, the media need to focus exclusively on preventing Poilievre and the CPC
While I agree and have already contributed materially towards that goal, expecting people to not be critical hasn’t worked very well for us so far. In this particular case I was fairly skeptical towards Mark. He’s managed to defuse some of that skepticism. I think the process of him addressing criticism head on with decent responses is what made the LPC polls look they way they do. Whether someone writes that Carney’s an ex banker or not, many know this and are worried about the effects. If these concerns are echoed by journalists, it creates the opportunity to address people’s concerns. I think this is the durable and scalable approach instead of hoping for critics to stay silent. I think most non-con voters don’t vote purely on allegiance irrespective of who’s on offer. That’s demonstrated by Trudeau’s tanking in the polls, shifts between LPC and NDP and other examples. I think we want to see our candidates being critiqued and them handling it, unlike cons who don’t mind if their leader invites 5 right propaganda outlets and CBC Radio to his events. I think there’s also some evidence that if our choices are so bad as to having to keep the media away from them, we end up not voting for them or staying home.
I encourage these media outlets to continue the ‘Libs and Cons are all the same’ voter suppression rhetoric after we secure our democracy from Poilievre and his Nazi pal Musk.
This is a lazy and useless comment, and their is nothing comforting about ignoramus’ on both sides of the political spectrum willing to cut off their nose to spite their face.
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A key problem humanity seems to have, which is exploited by politicians everywhere, is the affinity for black and white thinking.
Capitalism and even neoliberalism are not necessarily categorically terrible. Unregulated versions of these certainly are terrible and unsustainable. And some versions and implementations of ideologies or frameworks are net worse than others.
Absolute austerity, unregulated neoliberalism, unregulated capitalism, unopposed communism, etc, are all terrible, damaging and unsustainable. Unfortunately finding sustainable solutions is difficult and requires thought, time and dedication. And it requires vision and unifying leadership to sell it to the people.
What kind of system did we have in Canada before the shift towards neoliberal capitalism?
Yes but yesterday’s neoliberal ideas are better than tomorrow’s fascist ideas.
He is Canadian Biden
None of these facts are wrong. Carney is a top-tier capitalist, no question. The thing is, what are the choices? Three of the Liberal candidates are women. Not gonna win nationally. The other two are unknown MPs. Polievre has no vision, just a strategy of division and dog whistles, á la Prez Chump. It’s getting old fast. The NDP is still a fringe party with “visible minority” leader. Not gonna win nationally. There’s a lot to dislike, and if the Liberals select him, they won’t get my vote. But I think he will be the next PM, and might even win the next election. Unfortunately, I think that will depend significantly on what Chump and the Villionaires do in the next six months. And that is
volitilecapriciousunstableunpredictable!Liberal by name and conservative by nature, or Conservative by name and rageful extremist by nature. Which will it be, Canada? What a political dilemma. If only there were some kind of third option.
Socially liberal and fiscally conservative. This is the definition of the Liberal Party, so it’s a good fit.
If you want socially liberal and fiscally liberal, then you want NDP.
It will be the former this round. Then work to replace Singh with someone electable who presents not simply a credible but a desirable, left alternative. And try them in the federal election after. Join unions while that’s going on.
i expect you mean singh, but really the bq has triple the projected seats. we’re a two party nation just like … well you know who
Yeah, the UK is pretty much in the same boat.
The NDP?
So when Poilievre says don’t listen to Carney because these are actually his own policies, is this not also an anti-Conservative piece?
Neo lib regime whores never change…
Don’t give it any chances
This time around we’ll have to extend it for another four years. The NDP is currently polling at under 12% and 13 seats and it’s on a downward trajectory:
If NDP ends up with less seats than BQ I really hope that finally triggers a new leadership vote for NDP, Singh just isn’t cutting it.
id rather go with the devil i know than pp. just recently that fella advocated for guard towers on the border, except i’ve drive along it for a long ways across mb, sk and ab. much of the time the border is ‘the field on that side of the street’, or ‘just past those trees’.
The Breach participating in voter suppression activities for the CPC, I see.
I don’t know if I agree with that assessment, but they do seem to have one writer who does nothing but write about how bad Carney is, and another who does nothing but write about how bad Freeland is.
But which one is more bad? 😂
Exactly.
As usual the further left one goes the closer they get to the right.
Unfortunately true.
This a lazy and comforting fantasy.
E: A fantasy that serves the interest of right and the owner class.
The immediate national security concern is the person who has been endorsed by confirmed Nazi Elon Musk. In this dangerous moment, the media need to focus exclusively on preventing Poilievre and the CPC
While I agree and have already contributed materially towards that goal, expecting people to not be critical hasn’t worked very well for us so far. In this particular case I was fairly skeptical towards Mark. He’s managed to defuse some of that skepticism. I think the process of him addressing criticism head on with decent responses is what made the LPC polls look they way they do. Whether someone writes that Carney’s an ex banker or not, many know this and are worried about the effects. If these concerns are echoed by journalists, it creates the opportunity to address people’s concerns. I think this is the durable and scalable approach instead of hoping for critics to stay silent. I think most non-con voters don’t vote purely on allegiance irrespective of who’s on offer. That’s demonstrated by Trudeau’s tanking in the polls, shifts between LPC and NDP and other examples. I think we want to see our candidates being critiqued and them handling it, unlike cons who don’t mind if their leader invites 5 right propaganda outlets and CBC Radio to his events. I think there’s also some evidence that if our choices are so bad as to having to keep the media away from them, we end up not voting for them or staying home.
I encourage these media outlets to continue the ‘Libs and Cons are all the same’ voter suppression rhetoric after we secure our democracy from Poilievre and his Nazi pal Musk.
This is a lazy and useless comment, and their is nothing comforting about ignoramus’ on both sides of the political spectrum willing to cut off their nose to spite their face.
I can’t give you more time and effort, I thought you might appreciate a concise explanation of the downvotes. I typically do. All good. 👍
You sure know how to put the cunt into “pretentious pseudo intellectual”. Kudos.