The decentralized Instagram alternative is a great option if you want to back up your feed, focus on photo-sharing, or cut loose from Meta's empire entirely. And making the leap is surprisingly easy.
I don’t use instagram. The article touches on the privacy issues of Meta, but doesn’t really explain why Pixelfed is a better alternative or if it’s more privacy focused. Or even why I should use this platform other than “hey, it’s not Instagram”.
I’d trust some random people running an activity pub server just as much as I’d trust Meta with my personal photos: I won’t.
Coming from Wired, I’d hope the article would have a more technology focused approach, explaining to people they could host their own server so they take back control of their own data. Isn’t that the part of the point of the fediverse?
It’s nice to see someone questioning these things and not ignoring the fact that you’d still have to use the platform even for self hosting. There’s been a lot of mastodon instances of people acting in bad faith, there was even someone who had the FBI take their hard drive with everyone’s posts on it. This isn’t inherently safer at all it’s just not run by those large corporations. What about hosting something where people in other countries have different laws? No one seems to talk about that much either. Also the guy who made mastodon wants to partner with Meta anyway and people are arguing in favor of that. What was the point? On lemmy, are the posts truly deleted if you can recover them or if there is a backlog of comments and changes sitting somewhere? This isn’t for people who care about privacy and it’s not discussed enough and oftentimes when it is it seems the person or people get piled on and it goes nowhere.
Also glad there are discussions about this. Somehow Lemmy and the Fediverse seem more privacy friendly but it’s just as public as anything on the web - which makes sense, since communities, posts and comments are public anyway. So I’m not sure how it could be more private with the currently design.
There are however protocols that can provide the foundation for more privacy friendly and decentralized applications like Web5 and Solid.
Even when running an instance for yourself, you’re not really safe. The threat to your privacy goes from being a third party in control of your data to your own operational inexperience.
I tried to host my own personal Lemmy instance and ran into a lot of issues hosting it. On the one hand you want to be safe by restricting unnecessary access, but on the other hand you have no idea why federation doesn’t work, or the postfix-relay docker cannot send an email, or why you cannot ssh into your own host, so you want to just allow everything and just get it to work somehow. In the end, unless you are already an expert at this stuff, trying to host your personal instance safely is a tall task.
It’s also going to be very costly. Especially for an image sharing website like Pixelfed.
Maybe there is a market for self-service managed hosts like we have with Wordpress blogs.
The big issue is security. Setting up a VPS is quite technical but not impossible. Making sure it is secure is a totally other matter. Then keeping up with all of the updates, patches, and vulnerabilities is a full time job. So hosting stuff outside your own LAN is not something to take lightly.
The article is about transitioning from Instagram to Pixelfed, i.e. it’s targeting people who already use Instagram. If an individual is an Instagram user already, then privacy clearly isn’t a consideration for them, and if it was, there are countless articles already regarding Meta’s approach to their data that don’t need to be recycled here.
If your concern is your data, then yes, don’t trust anyone but yourself. As has been said, there’s alternatives for that, including self-hosting.
Pixelfed’s advantages aren’t limited to potential privacy features though, which I agree would have been excellent items to raise in the article, such as a focus on photos and a complete lack of any algorithm forcing tailored content at you. But this is a how-to article, not a feature comparison. I’m sure we’ll see a prevalence of those in the future but it’s still early doors. I would argue that it literally does imply that Pixelfed is more privacy focused though - it’s right there in the title.
I’d trust some random people running an activity pub server just as much as I’d trust Meta with my personal photos: I won’t.
I’m pretty sure Pixelfed wasn’t intended to be a place to share your personal photos - it’s meant for sharing photos you want to share with the public - could be a circle of friends or the whole world. Photos like pictures of your cats, food, landscapes etc. It’s a place to share photos with friends, or a place to connect photographers with other photographers.
I think the wrong question is being asked. Instead of “what’s a good replacement for IG?” the question should be “do we even need an app like IG to begin with?”. And I would say the answer is no.
I guess at worse they would ban you. It’s a closed off system though, so you can’t even check whether people frequently use (obvious) fake names or not.
Edit: Small correction. You can actually see some users and their names in the Discovery tab, some with obvious non real names. I’m guessing it depends on your instance whether how much they care about it.
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Pixelfed is nice but their porn filters just don’t work at all.
I am on the main flagship instance. If you click the explore tab, you see porn. Instantly.
Idk if this is intended or not but until they fix that it simply can’t go mainstream lol.
I don’t use instagram. The article touches on the privacy issues of Meta, but doesn’t really explain why Pixelfed is a better alternative or if it’s more privacy focused. Or even why I should use this platform other than “hey, it’s not Instagram”.
I’d trust some random people running an activity pub server just as much as I’d trust Meta with my personal photos: I won’t.
Coming from Wired, I’d hope the article would have a more technology focused approach, explaining to people they could host their own server so they take back control of their own data. Isn’t that the part of the point of the fediverse?
It’s nice to see someone questioning these things and not ignoring the fact that you’d still have to use the platform even for self hosting. There’s been a lot of mastodon instances of people acting in bad faith, there was even someone who had the FBI take their hard drive with everyone’s posts on it. This isn’t inherently safer at all it’s just not run by those large corporations. What about hosting something where people in other countries have different laws? No one seems to talk about that much either. Also the guy who made mastodon wants to partner with Meta anyway and people are arguing in favor of that. What was the point? On lemmy, are the posts truly deleted if you can recover them or if there is a backlog of comments and changes sitting somewhere? This isn’t for people who care about privacy and it’s not discussed enough and oftentimes when it is it seems the person or people get piled on and it goes nowhere.
Also glad there are discussions about this. Somehow Lemmy and the Fediverse seem more privacy friendly but it’s just as public as anything on the web - which makes sense, since communities, posts and comments are public anyway. So I’m not sure how it could be more private with the currently design.
There are however protocols that can provide the foundation for more privacy friendly and decentralized applications like Web5 and Solid.
Even when running an instance for yourself, you’re not really safe. The threat to your privacy goes from being a third party in control of your data to your own operational inexperience.
I tried to host my own personal Lemmy instance and ran into a lot of issues hosting it. On the one hand you want to be safe by restricting unnecessary access, but on the other hand you have no idea why federation doesn’t work, or the postfix-relay docker cannot send an email, or why you cannot ssh into your own host, so you want to just allow everything and just get it to work somehow. In the end, unless you are already an expert at this stuff, trying to host your personal instance safely is a tall task.
It’s also going to be very costly. Especially for an image sharing website like Pixelfed.
Maybe there is a market for self-service managed hosts like we have with Wordpress blogs.
The big issue is security. Setting up a VPS is quite technical but not impossible. Making sure it is secure is a totally other matter. Then keeping up with all of the updates, patches, and vulnerabilities is a full time job. So hosting stuff outside your own LAN is not something to take lightly.
Wired is for people who want to talk about technology without actually taking about technology.
The article is about transitioning from Instagram to Pixelfed, i.e. it’s targeting people who already use Instagram. If an individual is an Instagram user already, then privacy clearly isn’t a consideration for them, and if it was, there are countless articles already regarding Meta’s approach to their data that don’t need to be recycled here.
If your concern is your data, then yes, don’t trust anyone but yourself. As has been said, there’s alternatives for that, including self-hosting.
Pixelfed’s advantages aren’t limited to potential privacy features though, which I agree would have been excellent items to raise in the article, such as a focus on photos and a complete lack of any algorithm forcing tailored content at you. But this is a how-to article, not a feature comparison. I’m sure we’ll see a prevalence of those in the future but it’s still early doors. I would argue that it literally does imply that Pixelfed is more privacy focused though - it’s right there in the title.
ok? then host your own. that’s the fucking beauty of decentralized social media.
I’m pretty sure Pixelfed wasn’t intended to be a place to share your personal photos - it’s meant for sharing photos you want to share with the public - could be a circle of friends or the whole world. Photos like pictures of your cats, food, landscapes etc. It’s a place to share photos with friends, or a place to connect photographers with other photographers.
Wow Pixelfed is evolving much quicker than I expected. I didn’t know about the import feature, sure it is convenient for newcomers
I think the wrong question is being asked. Instead of “what’s a good replacement for IG?” the question should be “do we even need an app like IG to begin with?”. And I would say the answer is no.
They still seem to require a real name if I look at the registration process. Kind of a deal breaker to me.
Hi, I’m Dr. Mordecai Tutu on this glorious day.
Greetings, I am Notmyre Alname.
What happens if you put whatever you want in there?
Or start your own instance? Or join an instance that doesn’t care?
I guess at worse they would ban you. It’s a closed off system though, so you can’t even check whether people frequently use (obvious) fake names or not.
Edit: Small correction. You can actually see some users and their names in the Discovery tab, some with obvious non real names. I’m guessing it depends on your instance whether how much they care about it.
i doubt you’ll get banned lol, it’s probably not that deep to the admins.
if anyone is concerned about it, just open the instance ToS and ctrl+f “name”. im sure it’s not important.
I just put my first name there and nothing else