The government said Canadians who joined ISIS would face the 'full force' of the law, but not a single woman who lived under ISIS has yet been convicted.
The government said Canadians who joined ISIS would face the ‘full force’ of the law, but not a single woman who lived under ISIS has yet been convicted.
“[I was studying] English and Middle Eastern studies. I didn’t know anything about ISIS or anything. […] I didn’t really watch the news. No one liked to talk about it. I was really oblivious to what was going on. In the end I said fine, if I don’t like it, I’ll come back.” […]
So to Raqqa, ISIS’ de-facto capital, she came in 2014. What she saw, she liked. “It was an easy life. It was a city. It was stable,” she said. “You’re there and you’re eating Pringles and Twix bars." […] “Well, having slaves is part of Sharia,” she finally ventured. “I believe in Sharia.”
Did she regret coming to Syria, I asked, wondering if she felt disillusioned with the Islamic State […] “No. I had my kids [t]here,” she replied.
Sure, but aiding and abetting an organization that is legally recognized and sanctioned by Canada and pretty much all other developed countries as terrorist group has to run afoul of some law.
Like, what the fuck are these people saying to the customs reentry officers when they ask what they were doing in Afghanistan or Syria or whatever for the last several years? “Just some stuff, don’t worry about it”?
Edit: clarification: I am aware that it is considered a violation of human rights to render a person stateless. I am expressing surprise that the former terrorists returning to Canada weren’t immediately arrested on terrorism charges upon entry.
It doesn’t matter if they murdered half the world. Canada cannot deny them entry. Now, they can allow entry and take them straight to jail. But that is still allowing entry into their country of citizenship
Our jails are crowded and some of them are falling apart. Put them in jail after trial by all means, if their sentences so dictate. Putting them in jail before trial is only a good idea if they’re flight risks or a danger to others (which some of these women might be, I admit, but you need at least a figleaf of justification beyond “ISIS bad”). If they’re in jail, the money to feed, clothe, and house them comes out of our tax dollars, which may be better spent elsewhere.
(That’s in addition to the fact that some of them could still be found not guilty, in which case you’ve just held innocent people in jail.)
…these people spent anywhere from a few years to a decade aiding, abetting, and enabling terrorist extremist groups. I would absolutely consider them a flight risk and a potential danger to others, under the circumstances.
Don’t get me wrong - the US justice system is idiotic in a myriad of ways, but if a US citizen tried to return to the country after years of gallivanting around with ISIS or Boko Haram or whatever other extremist group you’d care to name (pointedly: any extremist group, not just specifically Islamic-identifying ones), I would fully expect the US customs agent to call in the federal marshalls the second it became apparent that they’d probably been off doing sketchy shit with terrorists. And I say that because I would further expect the FBI to have clued in on the fact that they’d been doing that, and would probably have a case file on them, and perhaps charges pending, and likely even a warrant out for their arrest.
As Canadian citizens they have a Section 6 right to return to Canada. You know, the same Section 6 right that the fucking tantrumists thought was being taken away because no country would take them during the pandemic because they weren’t vaccinated
Lmao, not anti Canadian. I would love for Canada to be strong and thrive. Under the current government Canada has become a sickly Victorian child. High cost of living and the stripping of the rights of citizens has turned the current government corrupt and drunk with power. The only way to become strong again is to unrestrict citizens and spend less across the board.
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Dura Ahmed sounds like a lovely person:
Sounds like a fanatical woman ripe to be used for a terrorist plot.
Why is the federal government even allowing them to return to Canada?? Our liberal government and justice system is broken.
Calm yourself. It’s not easy to deny someone entry to their birthplace, nor to remove citizenship when they have nothing else.
Stop watching Pierre and his endless drama and you’ll be fine.
Go learn.
If they are still legally citizens, the country cannot refuse them entry to the country.
Sure, but aiding and abetting an organization that is legally recognized and sanctioned by Canada and pretty much all other developed countries as terrorist group has to run afoul of some law.
Like, what the fuck are these people saying to the customs reentry officers when they ask what they were doing in Afghanistan or Syria or whatever for the last several years? “Just some stuff, don’t worry about it”?
Edit: clarification: I am aware that it is considered a violation of human rights to render a person stateless. I am expressing surprise that the former terrorists returning to Canada weren’t immediately arrested on terrorism charges upon entry.
I don’t see how you think not letting them return to the country is a responsible solution to any problem.
Making it someone else’s problem is always a possible solution to your problem.
Semi /s, I think?
It doesn’t matter if they murdered half the world. Canada cannot deny them entry. Now, they can allow entry and take them straight to jail. But that is still allowing entry into their country of citizenship
Well yeah; that’s what I mean. I’m surprised they weren’t taken straight to jail, pending trial.
Our jails are crowded and some of them are falling apart. Put them in jail after trial by all means, if their sentences so dictate. Putting them in jail before trial is only a good idea if they’re flight risks or a danger to others (which some of these women might be, I admit, but you need at least a figleaf of justification beyond “ISIS bad”). If they’re in jail, the money to feed, clothe, and house them comes out of our tax dollars, which may be better spent elsewhere.
(That’s in addition to the fact that some of them could still be found not guilty, in which case you’ve just held innocent people in jail.)
…these people spent anywhere from a few years to a decade aiding, abetting, and enabling terrorist extremist groups. I would absolutely consider them a flight risk and a potential danger to others, under the circumstances.
Don’t get me wrong - the US justice system is idiotic in a myriad of ways, but if a US citizen tried to return to the country after years of gallivanting around with ISIS or Boko Haram or whatever other extremist group you’d care to name (pointedly: any extremist group, not just specifically Islamic-identifying ones), I would fully expect the US customs agent to call in the federal marshalls the second it became apparent that they’d probably been off doing sketchy shit with terrorists. And I say that because I would further expect the FBI to have clued in on the fact that they’d been doing that, and would probably have a case file on them, and perhaps charges pending, and likely even a warrant out for their arrest.
Turns out we all move on from these massive conflicts pretty quickly. I married a korean
As Canadian citizens they have a Section 6 right to return to Canada. You know, the same Section 6 right that the fucking tantrumists thought was being taken away because no country would take them during the pandemic because they weren’t vaccinated
Canada is bordering on New Wave Dystopia and failed state.
Go back to r/canada.
Nah you can go back to Reddit
I like it here. There’s less of you anti-Canadian trolls.
Likewise, maybe you should remove one and go back to Reddit. Make Lemmy better for the rest of us.
“I know you are but what am I?”
You are everything we’ve come to expect from the very best that the SinoRussian anti-Canada simp brigade has to offer.
Lmao, not anti Canadian. I would love for Canada to be strong and thrive. Under the current government Canada has become a sickly Victorian child. High cost of living and the stripping of the rights of citizens has turned the current government corrupt and drunk with power. The only way to become strong again is to unrestrict citizens and spend less across the board.
Its a much worse situation when a government can strip you of citizenship. Not about to give that up for a couple shit birds
Why isn’t the liberal government just suspending the constitution?!?111??? 🙄
International reputation and wanting to be able to deport immigrants that commit crimes here