Calling an FPS dumbed down brain cancer is a crazy take. You may have better grand scale situational awareness than fast reflexes, which would make you better at other types of games, but that doesn’t make FPS games bad.
Honestly though, I hate it but I do kind of get it. If this game gets overrun by hackers in its prime, the game dies and I’d really like to see this survive long term as this is the kind of pricing model I’d like to support. Can’t have everything perfect.
But it will only make sense if FACEIT achieves that goal. Time will tell, and I’ll keep my windows dual boot for gaming for now.
From what I understand, FACEIT is a “better” anti cheat that the developers want to use to replace the current Easy Anti Cheat. Their current implementation of Easy Anti Cheat supports Linux and Steam Deck while FACEIT does not, and will not support Linux
FACEIT is yet another completely useless, doesn’t-actually-work, trust-the-client anti-cheating tool. Basically, it makes it so that cheaters (and the game publisher) can claim cheating isn’t happening because, “there’s an anti-cheat tool” but in reality it doesn’t stop actual cheaters.
The entire purpose of anti-cheat tools appears to be to stop casual Linux gamers from being able to play the game. Microsoft has a big part in it as well because the very same intentional vulnerabilities in Windows that hackers use to install undetectable rootkits are what get used by anti-cheat software.
If Microsoft wanted they could close those vulnerabilities by making all privilege levels above administrator (of which Windows has two which is insane) inaccessible to anyone but Microsoft. Instead they just collect money from 3rd party vendors to sign their driver encryption keys, inherently trusting those vendors not to make software with vulnerabilities. It’s a recipe for insecurity and Microsoft likes it that way. It acts as a form of vendor lock-in.
Anti-cheat tools pretty much all work with the same basic assumption: Trust the client. What’s the first rule of network programming?Never trust the client!
The game itself is a workmanlike Battlefield with a few oddball choices. I hope they never “fix” the vaulting behaviour that lets you break a 20-storey fall and make massive jumps across rooftops.
But I’ve specifically been having a lot of fun with the proximity chat. Remarkably robust, has an opt-in “broadcast your mic for a few seconds when you die” feature, and somehow isn’t a sluice of slurs / edgy crap / etc (at least in my experience).
The anticheat news is really depressing though. Cheaters are out there and will come to this game, and EAC at least has a reputation of being quite weak. We’re not allowed to have nice things.
LevelCap has a great video about how 3 guys made a better battlefield game then EA/DICE. I had fun the one night I’ve gotten to play so far but I was kind of drunk so I didn’t do very well. I’m a Battlefield player of many years and it’s the most fun I’ve had playing since 4.
If you are in to singleplayer bot matches Ravenfield is pretty cool. The game’s workshop is vast, so you can go from a WWI shooter to 40K and everything in between.
Looks interesting; one of the things keeping me away from some FPS games is the sheer amount of micro transactions. I’d spend 15 and get something good and fair for everyone who plays instead of being asked to put in another purchase every few minutes!
In the servers browser I’ve noticed some community ones but there are only a few and mostly in different regions. Hopefully they will open it up for more players to host soon.
I’ve had some good fun with this with friends the last few days but the latest patch, which dropped yesterday, was supposed to improve hit registration. Unfortunately it seems to have done the opposite for a lot of users, with a great new message claiming ‘packetloss’ as the reason 5 out of 7 shots didn’t register. This coming from a modern computer on a gigabit network with >30 ping to the server.
We also had some weird issues with bandaging and healing people just not registering, but still spending resources, and a lot of people just gave up trying to heal altogether.
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Anyone who says they value gameplay over graphics needs to get this game if they like the Battlefield genre
I love BF4 but rly didnt like this one.gunplay felt weird
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Calling an FPS dumbed down brain cancer is a crazy take. You may have better grand scale situational awareness than fast reflexes, which would make you better at other types of games, but that doesn’t make FPS games bad.
This comment just feels stupid again. Like the person writing it. Pretentious, aren’t we?
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I’ve been having a lot of fun with it. Even if I only get a few weeks or months until they add FACEIT, it’s worth the $15.
What does that mean and how does it change the game?
Edit: nevermind, someone further down explained already.
So there’s a catch after all.
FACEIT really is a bummer
Honestly though, I hate it but I do kind of get it. If this game gets overrun by hackers in its prime, the game dies and I’d really like to see this survive long term as this is the kind of pricing model I’d like to support. Can’t have everything perfect.
But it will only make sense if FACEIT achieves that goal. Time will tell, and I’ll keep my windows dual boot for gaming for now.
I was interested about this game by the article, but what is FACEIT?
From what I understand, FACEIT is a “better” anti cheat that the developers want to use to replace the current Easy Anti Cheat. Their current implementation of Easy Anti Cheat supports Linux and Steam Deck while FACEIT does not, and will not support Linux
Anti-cheat, I assume it breaks Linux compatibility and/or runs with basically unlimited permissions on your PC
Edit: details here
https://kbin.social/m/gaming@beehaw.org/t/91054/-/comment/383201
FACEIT is yet another completely useless, doesn’t-actually-work, trust-the-client anti-cheating tool. Basically, it makes it so that cheaters (and the game publisher) can claim cheating isn’t happening because, “there’s an anti-cheat tool” but in reality it doesn’t stop actual cheaters.
The entire purpose of anti-cheat tools appears to be to stop casual Linux gamers from being able to play the game. Microsoft has a big part in it as well because the very same intentional vulnerabilities in Windows that hackers use to install undetectable rootkits are what get used by anti-cheat software.
If Microsoft wanted they could close those vulnerabilities by making all privilege levels above administrator (of which Windows has two which is insane) inaccessible to anyone but Microsoft. Instead they just collect money from 3rd party vendors to sign their driver encryption keys, inherently trusting those vendors not to make software with vulnerabilities. It’s a recipe for insecurity and Microsoft likes it that way. It acts as a form of vendor lock-in.
Anti-cheat tools pretty much all work with the same basic assumption: Trust the client. What’s the first rule of network programming? Never trust the client!
The game itself is a workmanlike Battlefield with a few oddball choices. I hope they never “fix” the vaulting behaviour that lets you break a 20-storey fall and make massive jumps across rooftops.
But I’ve specifically been having a lot of fun with the proximity chat. Remarkably robust, has an opt-in “broadcast your mic for a few seconds when you die” feature, and somehow isn’t a sluice of slurs / edgy crap / etc (at least in my experience).
The anticheat news is really depressing though. Cheaters are out there and will come to this game, and EAC at least has a reputation of being quite weak. We’re not allowed to have nice things.
The parkour is fun
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I put this one my wishlist but had held off due to it being in early access. But I am reconsidering now!
Buy it! It’s so fun and for 15 bucks it’s a deal
It’s definitely worth it. Didn’t have that much fun in an online shooter for a long time.
Get it. Got about 20h in it and am just starting to get a feel for all the maps and guns. Still early so no meta and everyone’s pretty chill.
Personally 123v123 is a bit too hectic so I stick to 32v32 (which also has rush and other game modes not in 64v or 123v)
LevelCap has a great video about how 3 guys made a better battlefield game then EA/DICE. I had fun the one night I’ve gotten to play so far but I was kind of drunk so I didn’t do very well. I’m a Battlefield player of many years and it’s the most fun I’ve had playing since 4.
What a shame their throwing it all away with terrible anticheat
How does it run on Linux?
Fine for now. They’re eventually going to use FACEIT anticheat which doesn’t work on linux
https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/battlebit-remastered-faceit-x-easy-anti-cheat-linux-and-steam-dec/z45924
I think I heard they’ll have community servers which will use Easy Anti cheat. So I think Linux will work with those servers.
Yes but they won’t count for ranked
Dude could really use a pass by a native speaker. A lot of that sentence structure is pretty rough.
But yeah, that’s enough to keep me from buying it. I won’t use Windows again.
That’s unfortunate
If you are in to singleplayer bot matches Ravenfield is pretty cool. The game’s workshop is vast, so you can go from a WWI shooter to 40K and everything in between.
It’s natively Linux so that’s neat as well
I’d also like to mention Easy Red 2 for this too. WW2 only (for now) but its all about playing with the bots and does run decent on a Deck.
They’re adding modding soon, so maybe it could become a semi-realistic ravenfield?
I used to play the playtests a bunch - definitely a fun game, but not for me. I’d recommend it!
I’ve had lots of fun with this game. The price point is great with the amount of hours that I’ve gotten from it.
It’s a great game! Runs super smoothly and it’s got a lot of great QoL features. $15 is a steal
Exactly the same sentiment here! It has no business being as good as it is!
Looks interesting; one of the things keeping me away from some FPS games is the sheer amount of micro transactions. I’d spend 15 and get something good and fair for everyone who plays instead of being asked to put in another purchase every few minutes!
I’ve been playing this game a lot the past few days. it’s just plain fun. A nice refreshing FPS in the era of BRs and battle passes.
I considered it, but am now avoiding it because they’re going to add a Linux-incompatible anticheat.
I love to see indie games pop off. I hate to see Linux-hostile anti-cheats. C’est a la vie.
Dafaq you are talking about? I see people have no problem running the game with and older version of proton.
The devs plan on implementing a anti-cheat system that makes it incompatible with Linux and virtualization on Windows
See other comments. They are gonna implement Face It anticheat which won’t work with linux.
Oh, crap! That’s bad! Hopefully they change their mind!
From what I understand they are going full steam ahead and fuck community feedback
The catch is that you can’t yet run your own servers or LAN, from what I’ve seen.
In the servers browser I’ve noticed some community ones but there are only a few and mostly in different regions. Hopefully they will open it up for more players to host soon.
I’ve had some good fun with this with friends the last few days but the latest patch, which dropped yesterday, was supposed to improve hit registration. Unfortunately it seems to have done the opposite for a lot of users, with a great new message claiming ‘packetloss’ as the reason 5 out of 7 shots didn’t register. This coming from a modern computer on a gigabit network with >30 ping to the server.
We also had some weird issues with bandaging and healing people just not registering, but still spending resources, and a lot of people just gave up trying to heal altogether.