Nextcloud mail is unusably slow AND saves every single email in the database with no pruning, for the joy of a sysadmin that will see the database growing growing growing (from my experience a couple years ago, didn’t try extensively recently)
Roundcube instead is fast and easy to install but much limited. Everything is a PHP plugin developed by someone else who might abandon it at any time and I don’t really like that. Default install is barebones and has less features than outlook express on windows 98.
Almost a decade ago they did a crowdfunding to rewrite it, but it was abandoned , latest commits here https://github.com/roundcube-next
I’ve been looking for a round cube replacement for years and can’t find one. It’s the only mature and still relatively supported FOSS web-based solution I’ve found that fits my requirements.
I’m praying that nothing changes but fully expect it to. I’m going to maintain a fork just in case decided to pull an Audacity.
Yeah, snappymail is what I found as the best alternative that fitted my criteria (docker install and unified inbox).
Quickly checked out Afterlogic webmail lite, but I am not sure if it does unified inbox?
Unified inbox for afterlogic is enabled only with the pro license (it’s still technically open source since it’s PHP, but you’re not licensed to redistribute it)
If anything, I feel like Nextcloud Mail is the thing that’s going to end up being killed, not Roundcube. Nextcloud doesn’t exactly seem like a company that would buy a superior product just to kill it off.
Awesome! I enjoyed using Roundcube when I once used a free hosting service many years ago.
A free open source solution to security will help drive adoption, and have people push back against the big players from artificially butting out small independents from the little club Google and Microsoft and a few others have made for themselves.
FYI: I’ve been receiving phishing emails disguised to look like Roundcube account related info lately. Looks like scammers have caught onto this news. Keep safe.
I feel like Nextcloud is going to become Google one day, but I have nothing to back that up other than they just keep adding more and more capabilities
Yeah, NextCloud itself was forked from OwnCloud because its core contributors didn’t like where OwnCloud was going. I imagine the same could happen to NextCloud the moment it’s getting enshittified.
As long as they remain open source I see no problem with that.
I use both in my server and they’re both great products, with the plus that you don’t have to deal with any of Google’s shitty practices.
Adding a managed services option for NextCloud would be smart. Individual instances that don’t share anything, managed by NextCloud and deployable on multiple cloud infrastructures.
Maybe he was talking about capacity to develop further or fix bugs. In theory a community can do that (and actually do in many instances) but sometimes development of a community fork tagnates due to the lack of resources.
Best example to disprove this theory is … Nextcloud. Owncloud went ahead and developed a new version in go to scale more easily but next cloud is the defacto standard for most people that were using own cloud before the fork.
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They say nothing is going to change.
Nextcloud mail is unusably slow AND saves every single email in the database with no pruning, for the joy of a sysadmin that will see the database growing growing growing (from my experience a couple years ago, didn’t try extensively recently)
Roundcube instead is fast and easy to install but much limited. Everything is a PHP plugin developed by someone else who might abandon it at any time and I don’t really like that. Default install is barebones and has less features than outlook express on windows 98.
Almost a decade ago they did a crowdfunding to rewrite it, but it was abandoned , latest commits here https://github.com/roundcube-next
I’ve been looking for a round cube replacement for years and can’t find one. It’s the only mature and still relatively supported FOSS web-based solution I’ve found that fits my requirements.
I’m praying that nothing changes but fully expect it to. I’m going to maintain a fork just in case decided to pull an Audacity.
I find snappymail much better than Roundcube
Also, afterlogic webmail lite is also open source and that’s not bad
Yeah, snappymail is what I found as the best alternative that fitted my criteria (docker install and unified inbox). Quickly checked out Afterlogic webmail lite, but I am not sure if it does unified inbox?
Unified inbox for afterlogic is enabled only with the pro license (it’s still technically open source since it’s PHP, but you’re not licensed to redistribute it)
gross. this is like when google bought sparrow and then killed it.
this is all the more reason to donate to mozilla - especially to thunderbird (and thunderbird mobile)
If anything, I feel like Nextcloud Mail is the thing that’s going to end up being killed, not Roundcube. Nextcloud doesn’t exactly seem like a company that would buy a superior product just to kill it off.
Awesome! I enjoyed using Roundcube when I once used a free hosting service many years ago.
A free open source solution to security will help drive adoption, and have people push back against the big players from artificially butting out small independents from the little club Google and Microsoft and a few others have made for themselves.
FYI: I’ve been receiving phishing emails disguised to look like Roundcube account related info lately. Looks like scammers have caught onto this news. Keep safe.
Haven’t heard of Roundcube, but it looks cool.
I feel like Nextcloud is going to become Google one day, but I have nothing to back that up other than they just keep adding more and more capabilities
They can’t because Googles empire is built on bait and switch tactics, and if the product is open source, nobody can bait and switch it.
Open source actually guarantees that all shitty behaviors from big tech doesn’t work at all.
Yeah, NextCloud itself was forked from OwnCloud because its core contributors didn’t like where OwnCloud was going. I imagine the same could happen to NextCloud the moment it’s getting enshittified.
Having seen where Owncloud ended up here recently, the NC founders weren’t wrong.
As long as they remain open source I see no problem with that. I use both in my server and they’re both great products, with the plus that you don’t have to deal with any of Google’s shitty practices.
Adding a managed services option for NextCloud would be smart. Individual instances that don’t share anything, managed by NextCloud and deployable on multiple cloud infrastructures.
Being open source mean nothing if no one else can continue development, other than that yeah pretty great
Being open source means exactly that, anyone can fork it and continue development if need be. I really don’t understand what you’re trying to say
Maybe he was talking about capacity to develop further or fix bugs. In theory a community can do that (and actually do in many instances) but sometimes development of a community fork tagnates due to the lack of resources.
Best example to disprove this theory is … Nextcloud. Owncloud went ahead and developed a new version in go to scale more easily but next cloud is the defacto standard for most people that were using own cloud before the fork.
Been using Roundcube for years in my Mailcow stack. Good product.
Same, but with Poste.io instead of Mailcow. Zero complaints.