Macro wave, they put a fucking cavity magnetron inside a toaster oven? Or I guess you could also say they put a ceramic heating element inside a microwave? Ok so, consolidating counter top appliances is not the worst thing, I like my pressure cooker/crook pot and all that.
But WHY DOES IT NEED TO BE SMART!? Why would I want to control it from my phone? I’m going to have to go to it to put the food in to it anyways? So why would controlling it remotely be useful? Also, please, I’m so tired of the AI branding hype cycle and the manufactured consent around it.
they put a ceramic heating element inside a microwave?
It’s called a crisper. As in, to make the surface of food crisp, instead of using a crisper pan, or wasting single-use crisper sheets or bags. Pretty standard in medium range microwaves.
Add a $10 metal fan, and now it’s a convection oven too!
I’m surprised they haven’t added an extra $5 motor and a skewer to also have a roaster function… but maybe that would be pushing it too far?
SMART!? Why would I want to control it from my phone?
You may be thinking of “(id)IoT”, not “smart”. You have a “smart”-phone because it’s a phone-“with extras”; similarly a “smart” microwave doesn’t mean it has (id)IoT for your smartphone to use, it means the microwave comes “with extras”.
Why do you want a “microwave, convection oven, with a crisper” have any “smarts” to switch from one mode to the other? Well, for example to defrost, then cook, then crisp some piece of food… without having to stay over it and switch functions manually.
Ideally, it would also come with a thermometer and humidity sensor (that’s another $5 in sensors) to detect when the food has defrosted, then cooked.
Having an (id)IoT function… well, you might have a particular recipe on your phone, or on the internet, or want to check on how it’s doing from the sofa. Adding a webcam to live stream an image of your food, would cost another whooping $20… but I would rather duct tape one that’s reflashable with a custom firmware, so that’s debatable.
BTW, all these sensors, IoT, and “smarts”, are doable with an ESP and a bunch of SSRs. I know, it’s like some extra $20, and you should NEVER open a microwave without a solid grounding (pun intended) in basic electronics… but it’s all DIY-able. Oh, and once you have an ESP, you can also add an RGB LED strip to it for a few extra bucks, because why not.
I worry about when I’ll have to replace my robot vacuum… The need for mine to be controlled through the internet exclusively was already a big worry for me, and now they’re adding cameras and microphones to them as well…
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Macro wave, they put a fucking cavity magnetron inside a toaster oven? Or I guess you could also say they put a ceramic heating element inside a microwave? Ok so, consolidating counter top appliances is not the worst thing, I like my pressure cooker/crook pot and all that.
But WHY DOES IT NEED TO BE SMART!? Why would I want to control it from my phone? I’m going to have to go to it to put the food in to it anyways? So why would controlling it remotely be useful? Also, please, I’m so tired of the AI branding hype cycle and the manufactured consent around it.
Yeah, combination microwave/convection ovens are pretty common in Europe, but they don’t need to be smart.
We had one in 1992 already. Built like a tank, it lasted for almost 30 years. The cookbook that came with it became the source of many family staples.
Yup, I have one of those. I’m not sure what the exact build year is, but I think it’s from the mid-90s.
I got in 2006 or so from a thrift store and served me ever since.
It’s called a crisper. As in, to make the surface of food crisp, instead of using a crisper pan, or wasting single-use crisper sheets or bags. Pretty standard in medium range microwaves.
Add a $10 metal fan, and now it’s a convection oven too!
I’m surprised they haven’t added an extra $5 motor and a skewer to also have a roaster function… but maybe that would be pushing it too far?
You may be thinking of “(id)IoT”, not “smart”. You have a “smart”-phone because it’s a phone-“with extras”; similarly a “smart” microwave doesn’t mean it has (id)IoT for your smartphone to use, it means the microwave comes “with extras”.
Why do you want a “microwave, convection oven, with a crisper” have any “smarts” to switch from one mode to the other? Well, for example to defrost, then cook, then crisp some piece of food… without having to stay over it and switch functions manually.
Ideally, it would also come with a thermometer and humidity sensor (that’s another $5 in sensors) to detect when the food has defrosted, then cooked.
Having an (id)IoT function… well, you might have a particular recipe on your phone, or on the internet, or want to check on how it’s doing from the sofa. Adding a webcam to live stream an image of your food, would cost another whooping $20… but I would rather duct tape one that’s reflashable with a custom firmware, so that’s debatable.
BTW, all these sensors, IoT, and “smarts”, are doable with an ESP and a bunch of SSRs. I know, it’s like some extra $20, and you should NEVER open a microwave without a solid grounding (pun intended) in basic electronics… but it’s all DIY-able. Oh, and once you have an ESP, you can also add an RGB LED strip to it for a few extra bucks, because why not.
I got one a decade ago. The steam from microwaving caused corrosion in the top heater element, so it shorted and I had to buy a new one
Want to bet this “smart one” has the same such issue? That they’ve done nothing but take an existing flawed idea and dressed it up with buzz words?
Why does it have to be a video? I can read an article so much faster, and without needing to be somewhere by myself that sound isn’t bothering anyone.
Good call, article link https://www.ifixit.com/News/88815/the-worst-in-show-2024-losers-are-in
I have also added it to the post.
Awesome, thank you!
Thank you for adding the link to the article!
It is true. Not all heroes wear capes. Thanks for saying what I was screaming.
I worry about when I’ll have to replace my robot vacuum… The need for mine to be controlled through the internet exclusively was already a big worry for me, and now they’re adding cameras and microphones to them as well…
maybe your vacuum works with valetudo? it’s a self-hosted cloud replacement for many vacuums https://valetudo.cloud
It doesn’t
Thanks for the video! Those are some worrying trends in devices for sure