I’ve been playing around with the self hosted apps for quite a while and I got to the point where I’m happy about my local setup. Next step is to setup reliable offsite backup. I’m using borgbackup as a tool to manage my backups (so far only local backups). I’ve been looking for an affordable yet reliable service to store my backups. Is rsync.net worth it? According to the “internet” it’s a good service but wanted to double check. What do you think about it?
I have been using it for a few months, and it is working well. By default, you get daily snapshots, with a retention of 7 days; I believe you can buy more.
rsync.net is no-frills remote storage that gets out of the way of whatever you want to do. In my case, this is rsync over ssh, but they also support borg.
I use it. No complaints here. They’ve recently reduced their rates. The alternatives are more involved and more expensive. I put my remote Borg repos on rsync.net
Because I use Borg I don’t really need their zfs snapshots but those are pretty cool too.
I have multiple Borg repos, so rather than add a remote for each I just rclone everything at once to rsync.
I’ve opened up the pricing page, and it seems it is much more expensive then their mainstream competitor Backblaze.
For a terabyte of backup for a month, rsync.net would charge 1024*0.012 = 12$, while Backblaze would charge 6$. Hetzner Storage Box would be only 3.20$ (+better price scaling over terabytes).
Note that rsync.net includes free 7 days daily snapshot. Also, the main advantage over backblaze b2 for me is you can just sync a whole folder full of small files instead of compressing them into an archive first prior to uploading to a b2 bucket. This means you can access individual files later without the need to download the whole archive.
I still use b2 to store long term backup archives though.
I haven’t actually tried it though so I’m not sure how it compares with rsync.net. How easy it is to access snapshots on hetzner? On rsync.net, snapshots are stored under .zfs folder so it’s very easy to access.
What do you mean exactly? As far as I understand you access the data the same way you have put it in - by using either one of ftp, scp, rsync or borg data transfer protocolls.
Some storage services will tax data separately on its way out, or limit the amount you can get out, or limit the speed at which you can get it out etc. Always check for egress conditions in the fine print.
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You cannot use rsync with Backblaze, nor zfs send | recv. If these are important to you, rsync.net might be worthwhile. That’s it, really.
I have been using it for a few months, and it is working well. By default, you get daily snapshots, with a retention of 7 days; I believe you can buy more.
rsync.net is no-frills remote storage that gets out of the way of whatever you want to do. In my case, this is rsync over ssh, but they also support borg.
I use it. No complaints here. They’ve recently reduced their rates. The alternatives are more involved and more expensive. I put my remote Borg repos on rsync.net
Because I use Borg I don’t really need their zfs snapshots but those are pretty cool too.
I have multiple Borg repos, so rather than add a remote for each I just rclone everything at once to rsync.
hetzner storage box is cheaper afaik and works the same
Seeing all the hetzner mentions made me finally look into it and
yep, they seem to be cheaper than alternatives without getting into shady territory and
pretty easy to set up! I finally have an offsite backup of my home server and it only took me like an hour to do
If you ask me, I say Hetzner is a seriously underrated provider. I love using their services. Cheap as chips too.
It’s been a few weeks since I’ve updated my spreadsheet, but storj.io has consistently had the best pricing for me.
Yeah but no way do I want to store important data on storj.
My favourite aspect of their service is the super lightweight website that works with almost no scripts.
Any reason not to use borg base? They specialize in borg backups.
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I’ve opened up the pricing page, and it seems it is much more expensive then their mainstream competitor Backblaze. For a terabyte of backup for a month, rsync.net would charge 1024*0.012 = 12$, while Backblaze would charge 6$. Hetzner Storage Box would be only 3.20$ (+better price scaling over terabytes).
What am I missing?
Sources:
Note that rsync.net includes free 7 days daily snapshot. Also, the main advantage over backblaze b2 for me is you can just sync a whole folder full of small files instead of compressing them into an archive first prior to uploading to a b2 bucket. This means you can access individual files later without the need to download the whole archive.
I still use b2 to store long term backup archives though.
Hetzner also supports snapshots and you can upload files uncompressed.
I haven’t actually tried it though so I’m not sure how it compares with rsync.net. How easy it is to access snapshots on hetzner? On rsync.net, snapshots are stored under
.zfsfolder so it’s very easy to access.I don’t know from the top of my head and I can’t check right now.
You turn the visibility in the web interface on and then you can browse them as well.
Check how you get your data out.
Sorry, I am a bit dense.
What do you mean exactly? As far as I understand you access the data the same way you have put it in - by using either one of ftp, scp, rsync or borg data transfer protocolls.
Some storage services will tax data separately on its way out, or limit the amount you can get out, or limit the speed at which you can get it out etc. Always check for egress conditions in the fine print.
I like rsync.net. They offer reduced pricing for using restic/borg too.
I’m not sure how many years I’ve used them, but I never had any issues. The speeds also seem better than at least b2.