Twitter cofounder Ev Williams is backing a new social network called Maven, which trades likes and follows for algorithms designed to foster serendipity and deep discussion.
This kind of website sounds kind of problematic and useless. The ability to follow a specific person’s post is highly useful, and highly necessary oftentimes. If you want to reduce the friction that “Following” induces; you simply need to not disclose to the users how many people are following them, nor do you need to disclose how many followers a user has. Problems solved.
The same goes for Likes. Nobody but the sender of the like should know about that like. Instead of keeping counts for the recipients to obsess over; calculate a reasonable percentage of people who we can guess “like” the post algorithmically based on views of the post and clicked likes. I get that the feedback mechanism is necessary; but it should be a gentle one that simply encourages people to post what people like and will view. This percentage should not be used to rank a post above or below other posts, unless the user viewing the list asks for the list to be sorted or ranked as such.
They were exceptionally difficult to find to install the app. That alone will keep them from being successful. Add to that that the app is not particularly impressive… I’m not sure if their chances.
Maven is a yiddish word for understanding, or something similar. There’s a few things that have been named after it, but as it’s in the tech space for this social non-network, it definitely has the potential to be confusing.
Same goes for words in foreign languages. it just causes confusion. I like how eclipse went for “temurin” (anagram for runtime) for their OpenJDK distribution. no way to cause confusion.
Ask Amazon why they picked a name that was the same as a small publishing company that had been around for years and sued them into a smoking crater in the ground.
Seriously… The closer to three edge we get, the faster enshitification goes. No one is writing algorithms with users in mind… Not for a paycheck anyways
We’re getting to the point where we all need to carve out bubbles of curated Internet for our friends and family
Nah, I’m thinking much bigger. I’ve got an AI that can transcribe video, I’m working on one to summarize and put facts into a knowledge graph, I’ve got one that can hold a conversation, and I’ve got a script that scrapes sites and does natural language processing. I just need an agent to tie the pieces together and some control scripts to manage the containerized pieces
The idea is, my assistant will go out, read up on programming topics and build knowledge graphs with references to the source, and I’ll fix my biggest issue - shittified searches crippling my work speed
Then, I’ll send it off to find content. It’ll transcribe/summarize videos and rank them, research topics and come back with reports, and trawl my socials to find new things I might find interesting
I plan to take all that, then let my assistant create video channels to watch and additional content to read if Lemmy is slow. And if my friends and family show interest, I’ll add in hosting and an internal social media and convince them to run additional nodes at home
I’ve been working on it for a while because I saw this coming, I’ve got most of the key pieces already.
And that’s the bubble of Internet I’m building - AI curation of my Internet life, it’ll happily work away the hours deshittifying a bubble of Internet
WTF, no, this is worse in every way. So instead of being involved with the people and topics I choose, it’s instead left up to an algorithm? Somehow even more opaque than usual because of AI involvement.
This isn’t solving any problem, this is yet another mask to push content in front of people.
Do words just not fucking mean anything anymore? What exactly does “maven” have to do with any of this? Is everyone treated like an expert at everything? Is that how it works?
The entire tech industry is tiring, bullshit, and I’m exhausted with all of it.
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This kind of website sounds kind of problematic and useless. The ability to follow a specific person’s post is highly useful, and highly necessary oftentimes. If you want to reduce the friction that “Following” induces; you simply need to not disclose to the users how many people are following them, nor do you need to disclose how many followers a user has. Problems solved.
The same goes for Likes. Nobody but the sender of the like should know about that like. Instead of keeping counts for the recipients to obsess over; calculate a reasonable percentage of people who we can guess “like” the post algorithmically based on views of the post and clicked likes. I get that the feedback mechanism is necessary; but it should be a gentle one that simply encourages people to post what people like and will view. This percentage should not be used to rank a post above or below other posts, unless the user viewing the list asks for the list to be sorted or ranked as such.
Why would you give your new software the same name as an established and widely used software?
They were exceptionally difficult to find to install the app. That alone will keep them from being successful. Add to that that the app is not particularly impressive… I’m not sure if their chances.
Maven is a yiddish word for understanding, or something similar. There’s a few things that have been named after it, but as it’s in the tech space for this social non-network, it definitely has the potential to be confusing.
Same goes for words in foreign languages. it just causes confusion. I like how eclipse went for “temurin” (anagram for runtime) for their OpenJDK distribution. no way to cause confusion.
Ask Amazon why they picked a name that was the same as a small publishing company that had been around for years and sued them into a smoking crater in the ground.
Isn’t this just Reddit with more steps?
I’m never joining another vc-backed social network whatever they promise.
This was my main concern. What’s the monetization strategy?
Seriously… The closer to three edge we get, the faster enshitification goes. No one is writing algorithms with users in mind… Not for a paycheck anyways
We’re getting to the point where we all need to carve out bubbles of curated Internet for our friends and family
So an RSS Reader (Like CommaFeed) and a Social Bookmarking like Postmarks?
Nah, I’m thinking much bigger. I’ve got an AI that can transcribe video, I’m working on one to summarize and put facts into a knowledge graph, I’ve got one that can hold a conversation, and I’ve got a script that scrapes sites and does natural language processing. I just need an agent to tie the pieces together and some control scripts to manage the containerized pieces
The idea is, my assistant will go out, read up on programming topics and build knowledge graphs with references to the source, and I’ll fix my biggest issue - shittified searches crippling my work speed
Then, I’ll send it off to find content. It’ll transcribe/summarize videos and rank them, research topics and come back with reports, and trawl my socials to find new things I might find interesting
I plan to take all that, then let my assistant create video channels to watch and additional content to read if Lemmy is slow. And if my friends and family show interest, I’ll add in hosting and an internal social media and convince them to run additional nodes at home
I’ve been working on it for a while because I saw this coming, I’ve got most of the key pieces already.
And that’s the bubble of Internet I’m building - AI curation of my Internet life, it’ll happily work away the hours deshittifying a bubble of Internet
Other backers include OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.WTF, no, this is worse in every way. So instead of being involved with the people and topics I choose, it’s instead left up to an algorithm? Somehow even more opaque than usual because of AI involvement.
This isn’t solving any problem, this is yet another mask to push content in front of people.
That looks better.
Isn’t that very similar to what TikTok does? Just with a different algorithm and maybe other content than just videos?
TLDR: Serendipity
Lemmy. Just use Lemmy.
Why is this so hard, rest of the world?
Oh yeah, because there are no millions to be made here. /bangs head with hand
Getting off social media surely is the best way to reduce stress.
Or learn to use it better, turn of push notifications and treat it as an optional way to pass time rather than something you have to constantly check.
These people just need to stop. We don’t need yet another social media service
Isn’t this just a personal website with a links page?
otherwise known as literally every one of my accounts on any social network
Ive followed you on Lemmy, checkmate
Malicious compliance
… I just came back to using java for some projects, is this trying to tell me something ?
Do words just not fucking mean anything anymore? What exactly does “maven” have to do with any of this? Is everyone treated like an expert at everything? Is that how it works?
The entire tech industry is tiring, bullshit, and I’m exhausted with all of it.