Vladimir Putin has instructed the Russian Ministry of Health to create an institute at the Serbsky Center for Psychiatry and Narcology to study the “social behavior” of LGBT people. The order became public knowledge following the remarks of Russia’s Minister of Health Mikhail Murashko during the first reading of a State Duma bill banning “sex changes” on June 14.
On June 14, Russia’s State Duma passed a bill banning surgical operations “aimed at changing a person’s sex” and changing one’s gender marker in legal documents in its first reading. During the session, multiple parties in the Duma vocally criticized the document. After Russia’s Minister of Health Mikhail Murashko criticised the law and supported the prohibition of “sex changes” -the term the Duma uses to describe gender transitions- solely based on a patient’s request and advocated stricter requirements for surgery and hormone therapy, but did not advocate a complete ban on gender transitions, Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin asked Murashko not to propose any amendments to the law. "We would like the Ministry of Health not to issue any amendments by the second reading, reasoning that it takes care of people. Care should be taken, if you will, by banning all this fornication,” Volodin said.
Yes they are like a shining beacon to fascists worldwide on “how to do it”. Now the GOP may have been mainly conservatives, but they are being turned to fascism by some elements.
In my country the far-right even had a written “agreement of cooperation” with the Kremlin to “advance both their causes”. They only stopped openly doing that since 2022, but 100% they still parrot Putin talking points. This was public knowledge (as well as their repeated corruption) and yet people STILL vote them in even bigger numbers, because their “distract, recruit and convert with hate and fear” tactics work so well.
@Gradually_Adjusting given the fact that tankies would still see Russia as a reliable ally against the supposed Western imperialism even after this, that would not be far from truth.
Western imperialism is hardly a supposition, regardless of the fact that Russia is also imperialist and, yeah, not a good candidate for “anti-imperialist ally of western socialism” in any sense.
Dictatorship + “psychiatry and narcology institute” = prison to conduct unethical human experiments on an unwanted minority, probably for militar purposes (biological or chemical warfare)
This theory makes a lot of sense if you consider that Russia’s biggest problem is that losing the war might make their country cease to exist completely. But even so, their problems are training, cultural and logistics based, no amount of biological weapons are going to fix their problems; though they probably wouldn’t admit that even to themselves.
To be fair, I think they’re talking mainly about the government, and people also felt like the USSR was invincible until suddenly it was gone.
I do also wonder what will happen when Putin dies. He’s made himself an all-powerful dictator, but as I understand it there isn’t any clear path or method of succession laid out. If losing the war or whatever doesn’t take down Russia’s current government, Putin’s death might fracture it and end it in a power struggle.
There is also the fact that so many people fled Russia to avoid conscription, and the dissatisfaction the populace has with the expansion of conscription, and the low morale and disillusionment of troops when they do eventually return. None of that is good for stability, especially when the entire government is built around a single person without a clear succession or replacement system.
I think Russia’s current government can seem stabler than it actually is just because it’s powerful, but it could be a glass cannon.
Good points all around, especially regarding Putin’s successor – I think you’re right, or at least I’m also under the impression that there’s really no clear system in place. Might just turn into a deathmatch
Yeah. This is pretty much how mental hospitals looked like during the Nazi era. I was in one as a teen (Grafenberg), which was already active during that time and one of the workers there talked a bit about it and how it was used. Some auto translated articles from their websites (LVR is the regional organization under which they and other services operate within North Rhine Westfalia):
This is very alarming. There is no doubt that there are going to be human rights violations perpetually. Is it going to be a forced stay or voluntary? Horrible experimentation is going to be done here.
Those Russians, folks, let me tell you, they seem to be outdoing us this time. Believe me, they’re really making some moves. We need to step up our game, folks. We can’t let them get ahead. We’ve got to show our strength and determination. Together, we can surpass them and come out on top!
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Conservatism is a plague of oppression, sickness and death. It always has been.
Clinging to the past, terrified of change/losing face and perceived status.
Kremlin is the GOP of the east?
Yes they are like a shining beacon to fascists worldwide on “how to do it”. Now the GOP may have been mainly conservatives, but they are being turned to fascism by some elements.
In my country the far-right even had a written “agreement of cooperation” with the Kremlin to “advance both their causes”. They only stopped openly doing that since 2022, but 100% they still parrot Putin talking points. This was public knowledge (as well as their repeated corruption) and yet people STILL vote them in even bigger numbers, because their “distract, recruit and convert with hate and fear” tactics work so well.
Lots of alt-righters see Russia as the last bastion of western civilization.
If you go west enough, you get to the east. 🤔 Horseshoe theory confirmed?! 😱
No horseshoe theory is not confirmed lol
thats_the_joke.silly
‘But the Earth is flat.’ 😒
That’s the other side of the coin, isn’t it? Or perhaps it’s the same side of two coins. Just thinking about it is making me stupider.
@Gradually_Adjusting given the fact that tankies would still see Russia as a reliable ally against the supposed Western imperialism even after this, that would not be far from truth.
@Thalyssa
Western imperialism is hardly a supposition, regardless of the fact that Russia is also imperialist and, yeah, not a good candidate for “anti-imperialist ally of western socialism” in any sense.
They have a lot in common. You could say they are allies these days.
Russians: literally killing themselves
Putin: no, not like that! Conscription!
Dictatorship + “psychiatry and narcology institute” = prison to conduct unethical human experiments on an unwanted minority, probably for militar purposes (biological or chemical warfare)
This theory makes a lot of sense if you consider that Russia’s biggest problem is that losing the war might make their country cease to exist completely. But even so, their problems are training, cultural and logistics based, no amount of biological weapons are going to fix their problems; though they probably wouldn’t admit that even to themselves.
Wait what?
Yeah that’s the pipe dream people are pushing now. Somehow Russia will collapse because of this war
To be fair, I think they’re talking mainly about the government, and people also felt like the USSR was invincible until suddenly it was gone.
I do also wonder what will happen when Putin dies. He’s made himself an all-powerful dictator, but as I understand it there isn’t any clear path or method of succession laid out. If losing the war or whatever doesn’t take down Russia’s current government, Putin’s death might fracture it and end it in a power struggle.
There is also the fact that so many people fled Russia to avoid conscription, and the dissatisfaction the populace has with the expansion of conscription, and the low morale and disillusionment of troops when they do eventually return. None of that is good for stability, especially when the entire government is built around a single person without a clear succession or replacement system.
I think Russia’s current government can seem stabler than it actually is just because it’s powerful, but it could be a glass cannon.
Good points all around, especially regarding Putin’s successor – I think you’re right, or at least I’m also under the impression that there’s really no clear system in place. Might just turn into a deathmatch
Yeah. This is pretty much how mental hospitals looked like during the Nazi era. I was in one as a teen (Grafenberg), which was already active during that time and one of the workers there talked a bit about it and how it was used. Some auto translated articles from their websites (LVR is the regional organization under which they and other services operate within North Rhine Westfalia):
https://klinikum–duesseldorf-lvr-de.translate.goog/de/nav_main/ueber_uns/geschichte/1933_bis_1945/Inhaltsseite_KV.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
https://lvr-de.translate.goog/de/nav_main/derlvr/geschichte/1933_1/entwicklung_seit_gruendung_des_lvr/entwicklung_seit_gruendung_des_lvr_1.jsp?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
You can imagine how LGBT people would be treated in such an institution in a country like Russia.
Shouldn’t they open an institution to study how all these windows happen to fail when an oligarch is near?
This is very alarming. There is no doubt that there are going to be human rights violations perpetually. Is it going to be a forced stay or voluntary? Horrible experimentation is going to be done here.
In Russia, it’s a forced “voluntary” stay. They force you to stay, but they tell you (and all the people keeping an eye on this) that it’s voluntary.
Those Russians, folks, let me tell you, they seem to be outdoing us this time. Believe me, they’re really making some moves. We need to step up our game, folks. We can’t let them get ahead. We’ve got to show our strength and determination. Together, we can surpass them and come out on top!
Don’t give Republicans any more ideas…
Ngl, I think they already have this idea too.