I was an iOS supporter until iphone 5 then I discovered the beauty and freedom of Android.

To this day with Samsung s22+

But currently I am a bit tired, there is no android phone that I am passionate about, oneplus has given me nothing but problems, Samsung with exynos is a disaster (not to mention the new blockages at sideload and the green stripes on the display), I don’t even want to go near all the other Chinese brands, and Nothing is not what it promised to be.

I want to go back to iOS but there are a few things holding me back:

  • how can sideload be managed on iOS? Are there modified apps like youtube, reddit?

  • I follow a lot of NSFW channels on telegram, discord and reddit itself, are there any problems on iOS? are there ways around this? (my girlfriend has iOS, and every time I want to forward an nsfw gif she doesn’t see it)

  • surf the sea, is it complex on ios? Especially in terms of gaming?

TBH only yt, nsfw and modded apk keep me on android. Thanks a lot in advance

Have you looked at Sony phones? I recently switched to the Pixel Fold from a 1 Mark IV. Sony phones are some of the best IMO.

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Came here to say, why is OP dealing with all these bloatware companies? Samsung is the Apple of Androids - decent hardware decent OS for those who like it, but ridiculously bogged down with prevention features.

I also have the Sony Xperia 1 IV and it’s been stellar. Lineage support if I don’t want the main Android, otherwise I’m pretty much free to do whatever I want on the phone. Plus I actually have a headphone jack still and an SD card slot.

Sonys have the stupid 21:9 aspect ratio that’s like a tv remote. Camera also sucks vs the competition despite sony making the lenses and their own standalone cameras

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The camera’s don’t suck, it’s that Sony doesn’t apply post processing. If you edit the photo like a photographer would they look as good or better.

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Sideloading apps on iOS has gotten a lot easier. I use sideloadly. It has to connect to your computer (wirelessly) once a week but does this automatically in the background. I’m still running Apollo, the best Reddit iOS app this way.

I have YT premium through Sri Lanka for $3/mo. Sponsorblock works in safari.

ROM apps like delta are in the App Store now. I have no idea about phone gaming otherwise.

Never ran into any content filtering.

If your gf uses iOS try it out there first and see how you like it.

New iPhones release on a pretty strict schedule each September so even if you don’t want the new model best to wait for older ones to be discounted.

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Uuh. I wouldn’t do it. As far as I know iOS is still pretty locked down and that won’t change.

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On mobile you have 4 choices :

  • Stock Android, the worst you can get, simply not use it

  • iOS, as worst as android but with better UI

  • Degoogled Android, good choice, avail able on many devices 👍

  • Linux phones, the best but in early development and only available on some devices only

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If you feel like tinkering and walking around with a brick, you can try a DIY raspberryPi Phone - https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-smartphone-ourphone

https://github.com/evanman83/OURS-project

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Welcome to Linux for Mobile.
The next generation OS for keeping your smartphone private and your conversations (kinda) secure.

It’s “next generation”, because we probably won’t have a good enough solution in the lifetime of the current generation’s people.

But if you have both: enough money to buy an extra fairphone for testing and the time and ability to program drivers, please consider it.

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No

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As much as I love Linux for mobile idea, it doesn’t have a lot of apps that people rely, like banking or government related stuff.

I am a desktop person.
My main reasons for using a smartphone instead of a phone, are:

  1. GPS Maps. This is something I most probably won’t be able to contribute to, while at the same time, I need it a lot.
  2. UPI (Unified Payments Interface). I can manage with paper money, but this is just too useful. If Linux mobile were to pick-up, I think I could manage to get it supported by the Govt.
  3. WhatsApp, because no matter how much I don’t want to, others, including workplace teammates, will make that a requirement.

Until these requirements are met, I will associate Linux mobile with words like, “next” and “tomorrow”.

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Fairphone 4 with eOS, escaping Google and Apple’s duopoly is quite liberating and not as hard as I thought it would be. Yeah, eOS is technically Android, but deGoogled.

https://e.foundation/

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Long time Samsung user. Get a Pixel 8. Install Obtainium. Use it to install Neo Launcher and 99% of the apps you probably use. Or just switch to GrapheneOS. You will be happy again.

I also found filly changing my layout helps. My daily calendar, task list, and clock are the only things on my first home screen.

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Obtainium

Didn’t know about obtenium. I think pixel 8 seems the only good choice also if it’s pricey and I’m afraid that is a lot smaller than the s22+ that I think is a right size

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Yea, they have gotten pricey. I ended up going down in phone size instead of getting the bigger 8, really like being able to reach all the way across the phone again. Using a tablet for reading things probably made a difference here, though.

+1 for GrapheneOS

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Agreed, grapheneos is great

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Filly? What does that mean in this context?

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I think they typoed “fully”

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OH! Got it! Thank you! I was legitimately just like “is this new lingo I don’t know”

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Yes, it’s new lingo, that’s what I was using. Mmmhmm. You should too… Totally…

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The telegram thing is caused by telegram itself

Login with a pc and disable safety filters for your account and you’ll be fine

iirc the play store version of telegram is the same as the App Store version, but on android maybe you downloaded it directly from the telegram website (?)

Anyway, safety filter can be disabled

Pixel Phone with GrapheneOS is simply the best solution available right now.

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Checking in from GrapheneOS

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And remember kids. Buy your pixel second hand

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Just be careful. OEM lock can fuck you over big time

word.

Am writing this on one in my second VPN only user profile. It’s like having two phones

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* in the selected list of countries 😿

I got my pixel online before it was officially available in my country. If you can’t find anything locally you can message sellers from other countries on ebay or use a proxy store like this guy link who offers worldwide shipping.

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there is no android phone that I am passionate about,

Not what you asked for:

A phone is a tool which should enable you to do stuff. Be passionate about friends, hobbies, art, not a piece of plastic.

Being forced to use iOS (work phone) and Android (Samsung, also work), both suck IMHO but Android sucks less.

My next Android will be a Pixel, as others suggested custom roms are the way to go, but even vanilla Android is more functional/open/practical for my needs than iOS.

I would never buy Apples shit with my own money: Dumped down, locked down and in the end you are renting a device from Apple to pay fees for their Appstore and Cloud offerings and vendor lock in. No thanks.

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I will add that, after getting my first Pixel as my previous phone, I’ve found the Google vanilla Android experience is better than Android on other carriers that fill the phone with bloat that you can’t get rid of without rooting.

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iOS is probably the worst choice if you want to sideload apps. I would recommend sticking with Android and run your Samsung into the ground (maybe flash a custom ROM?) before getting something like a Fairphone.

Besides, what do you want to be “passionate” about in mobile phones? To me, they’re just tools for browsing the web, playing games, and staying in contact with friends and family while on the go; anything extra is superficial.

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Actually I love to testing modded app, rooting, changing roms, with samsung and oneplus I lost this because install a custom rom brings a lot of issue with banks, camera (damn camera2 api) and so on almost all modern phone is not convenient to go to a custom rom

I dont think its possible -or easy- to install custom roms on samsungs since they dont allow unlocking the bootloader

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so you are choosing to go from having issues with those things to not being able to do it at all? I don’t understand. isn’t finding/solving the issues part of the testing you mention?

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Sideloading is quite bad. If you’re in the EU, I know you can use AltStore PAL, which costs money (~€1.50 a year), but all you’ll be getting is emulators, virtual machines, clipboard managers, and torrent clients.

There is another method for sideloading that works anywhere and lets you download modified apps, but it is very limited, tedious, and probably insecure. I’ve done it, it’s not worth it. Better to stay on android or use a browser with adblock or something.

I don’t think iOS has any specific limits to do with NSFW stuff, I’ve never heard of anything anyways.

Pirating games is probably not going to be worth it either since you have to sideload apps with the second method.

Other types of piracy are probably fine. If you have AltStore PAL you can get a torrent client and an emulator.

Funny, I followed the same exact course. IPhone 2-5 then switched to Samsung after 5. I feel like they had a strong edge at that time and it was getting to be more and more of a PITA to jailbreak the iphones then. Pixel w graphene sounds intriguing but I can’t imagine it’s without headaches. If you are already sideloading things frequently though you might be the type to not mind some of the extra steps graphene will demand. I wouldn’t blame anyone for going with Apple right now - I don’t think the Android benefits are as strong as they used to be. At the same time, I don’t see any attractive reason to switch since for me it would mean more cost and dealing with the frustrations of an ecosystem switch without any clear reward in return.

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good answer thank you, the problem is that if I have to sideload every week it could be an issue for me. My concern is about youtube, because I watch so much vanced, reddit (that I still read but I’m writing here when I can), and the freedom to see nsfw. I love to try games and on the high seas I can find a lot of apk but I don’t know if its the same on iOS.

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