As Chinese EV makers close, drivers of “smartphones on wheels” say software updates and maintenance are in jeopardy.
Chinese drivers’ frustrations point to the broader risks of “smartphones on wheels,” where reliability is contingent upon software maintenance and updates.
Owners are worried about their access to factory parts in future repair
As Chinese car owners brace for further consolidation of the country’s hypercompetitive EV market, the fact that many electric cars rely on cloud services — from smartphone controls to software updates — has raised concerns about the long-term serviceability of the vehicles.
Intense price wars and the phasing out of government subsidies have left a number of the nation’s EV manufacturers — estimated at more than 100 — struggling for survival. Since 2020, more than 20 EV makers in China, including Singulato and Aiways, have left the market. Most recently, the high-end carmaker HiPhi, which only sold 4,520 vehicles in 2022, halted production in February as it wrestled with financial woes. WM Motor was the largest Chinese electric carmaker to date to become insolvent, having sold approximately 100,000 vehicles between 2019 and 2022.
Between EV companies that have filed for bankruptcy and those that have halted operations, an estimated 160,000 Chinese car owners are left in the lurch, according to the China Automobile Dealers Association.
They should be standard protocols and you should be able to change server to competition. Be great if it was all open, but failing that, standards, competition and right to repair.
By the time they’re about to go belly up, companies no longer have the resources to ensure they comb through the code to remove the parts licensed from 3rd parties, and the liquidators see all assets as something to sell in order to cover whatever loans the company got.
In an ideal world, consumers would never buy a non-open sourced car, or phone, or IoT device.
In the real world, regulators need to force companies to give consumers at least some basic way to control the products they buy.
Nothing to do with being Chinese. Amazon is going to brick some of their devices that play music in cars IIRC. There are western companies that made pace makers who closed source their communication protocols, went bust, and now the pace makers are in patients who have no way to service them.
Opensourcing after deprecation should be written into law.
Let’s re-title that to “Owners are losing access to smartphone app updates and product features when companies go bust”
It’s exactly how Cloud SaaS is designed. It was a bad idea to do it with your smoke detector and smart lock, and it’s still a bad idea with automobiles.
That one smart home brand that went bust and nobody could turn on/off lights etc. LOL. Thankful some selfhoster types came to the rescue amd setup an alternate server.
It is why I “flashed” my switches to be local hosted and never go to web, and just use homeassistant as the server
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They should be standard protocols and you should be able to change server to competition. Be great if it was all open, but failing that, standards, competition and right to repair.
Open source that shit before you go belly up
By the time they’re about to go belly up, companies no longer have the resources to ensure they comb through the code to remove the parts licensed from 3rd parties, and the liquidators see all assets as something to sell in order to cover whatever loans the company got.
In an ideal world, consumers would never buy a non-open sourced car, or phone, or IoT device.
In the real world, regulators need to force companies to give consumers at least some basic way to control the products they buy.
Since this is China, you should have just bought a non Chinese car if you expect support.
Nothing to do with being Chinese. Amazon is going to brick some of their devices that play music in cars IIRC. There are western companies that made pace makers who closed source their communication protocols, went bust, and now the pace makers are in patients who have no way to service them.
Opensourcing after deprecation should be written into law.
Anti Commercial-AI license
100%. Should be an international law.
Terrible idea, predictable results.
Let’s re-title that to “Owners are losing access to smartphone app updates and product features when companies go bust”
It’s exactly how Cloud SaaS is designed. It was a bad idea to do it with your smoke detector and smart lock, and it’s still a bad idea with automobiles.
That one smart home brand that went bust and nobody could turn on/off lights etc. LOL. Thankful some selfhoster types came to the rescue amd setup an alternate server. It is why I “flashed” my switches to be local hosted and never go to web, and just use homeassistant as the server
To the surprise of no-one!
Sounds like a regulatory solution is needed. The intersection where domestic policy impacts international.