I feel like that’s a stretch, and there’s some important things to consider here.
People are weird, and can fetishize all sorts of shit. There’s no reasonable way to control say, someone jerking off to pictures of hand models. Or to stop someone shlicking it to your shlubby beer gut at the beach photos you put up on social media if that’s their thing (and I know a woman who’s thing was “straight bears” for a long time).
But no one has any agency or ability to prevent that. No one has any agency to prevent any random person passing them on the street and then later using that memory plus imagination as cranking fuel.
For the sake of every individual’s personal sanity, I think it’s important that each and every one of us understand and accept that. Existing in the world is naturally giving up a certain amount of control. This is part of it, as disgusting as it is.
This is even more the case when you put content out there. Whether through acting in film or other media, creating artwork, posting pictures, etc. Creating content in the current age of the internet is inherently ceding ownership and control over it. The moment it hits the public space, you cannot control what is done with it, and the sooner people can learn to accept that, the better off I think we all will be.
I understand that feeling of violation to learn that someone has used you purely as an object for arousal.
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Multiple times an ex manually stimulated me to physical arousal and used me as a human dildo. At the time I convinced myself I was into it, because I was a guy. I wasn’t, and while my trauma is relatively minor, it exists.
That said, there is nuance. This content was not edited, it was merely taken out of the original context. Are we going to prevent news from doing this to prevent using content in ways unintended and unanticipated by the original creators?
“I’ll know misuse when I see it” is not a sustainable method for evaluating misuse at scale.
“If it’s clearly being used for erotic purposes” likewise doesn’t work, as defining that line isn’t straightforward. Do we ban reposts of bikini shots?
This isn’t something that was created for private use that was leaked. It was content made for public consption. Being disgusted with how the public chooses to consume it is your right, but there’s no way to control that.
Again, I entirely sympathize with the women experiencing this. Being used in this manner is dehumanizing.
But there’s no stopping it. Best to accept as best you can and ignore it.
This isn’t like its revenge porn or anything though. Everything about the filming of the scene was consentual and released to the public consentually. Whats the issue with a dude wanting to organixe and jerk off to the scenes?
Involuntary porno sounds like something was leaked or filmed at gunpoint.
But would it not be just as weird, creepy, and taboo for one to do it with non-nude and therefore non-pornographic material? Would pictures of feet being passed around not be just as weird but also not covered under this law?
Is there? According the the law the issue is that he took the scenes as pornographic when they weren’t. Not that he organized and posted the scenes in the first place.
Its like how in general (in the US) you dont have an expectation of privacy in public - You went to the mall, if someone is filming at the mall you might get caught in that.
You performed nude in this movie that was released to the public, you can’t then get mad that people are looking at you nude. Are we going to start monitoring streaming services for people who start a movie then click immediately to 00:49:32 a few times a week then go arrest them too?
Tl;Dr: Sharing Nude scenes out-of-context are considered a form of involuntary pornography in Denmark (portraying artistic nudity as pornography) and this man was arrested for compiling and sharing nude scenes of Danish actors from Danish films and sharing them while inside Denmark…
This has nothing to do with film studio profits or piracy, this is a man who ran afowl of his home country’s laws about pornography.
And to be fair, a woman appearing nude in a film doesn’t mean that sexualizing the shit out of her publicly isn’t scummy fucked up behavior. I think I understand the law here.
Good argument but if the guy uploading it would be in another country this law couldn’t be enforced. Basically it’s an unenforceable standard. To insist on enforcing it could lead to draconian measures.
The article mentions upload filters but that then again create a large burden. This burden requires more work or more money. Which leads to a centralization or monopolization of the internet. Which would be in the interest of social media corporation who can shoulder the burden.
In the future the ethical issues of porn could be solved by investing in and creating a near perfect AI porn model that can serve all our degenerate needs WITHOUT requiring humans to take their clothes off. Basically ethically sourced synthetic “vegan” porn that is created for your on demand in your own home. And then you can ban all the real porn because the demand for it will plummet. Of course there will still be people who get off on the abuse instead of on the fantasy.
Yeah Denmark is very relaxed about bodies and public nudity in general. Denmark was the world’s first country (in the modern world) to legalize porn. However, consent matters and consenting to one type of exposure doesn’t mean consenting to everything.
Honestly I feel a bit uncomfortable seeing nudity in films. I think “he’s this person who’s half my age, so agreed to take her clothes off and be filmed because her job required it”.
They choose which films they work on, and they do have influence over how sex scenes are filmed and performed. At least in the US, the union does protect actors.
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Involuntary pornography, my guy. How are you not disgusted at the guy who was arrested?
What? Its from the movies they were already nude in
I feel like that’s a stretch, and there’s some important things to consider here.
People are weird, and can fetishize all sorts of shit. There’s no reasonable way to control say, someone jerking off to pictures of hand models. Or to stop someone shlicking it to your shlubby beer gut at the beach photos you put up on social media if that’s their thing (and I know a woman who’s thing was “straight bears” for a long time).
But no one has any agency or ability to prevent that. No one has any agency to prevent any random person passing them on the street and then later using that memory plus imagination as cranking fuel.
For the sake of every individual’s personal sanity, I think it’s important that each and every one of us understand and accept that. Existing in the world is naturally giving up a certain amount of control. This is part of it, as disgusting as it is.
This is even more the case when you put content out there. Whether through acting in film or other media, creating artwork, posting pictures, etc. Creating content in the current age of the internet is inherently ceding ownership and control over it. The moment it hits the public space, you cannot control what is done with it, and the sooner people can learn to accept that, the better off I think we all will be.
I understand that feeling of violation to learn that someone has used you purely as an object for arousal.
abuse
Multiple times an ex manually stimulated me to physical arousal and used me as a human dildo. At the time I convinced myself I was into it, because I was a guy. I wasn’t, and while my trauma is relatively minor, it exists.
That said, there is nuance. This content was not edited, it was merely taken out of the original context. Are we going to prevent news from doing this to prevent using content in ways unintended and unanticipated by the original creators?
“I’ll know misuse when I see it” is not a sustainable method for evaluating misuse at scale.
“If it’s clearly being used for erotic purposes” likewise doesn’t work, as defining that line isn’t straightforward. Do we ban reposts of bikini shots?
This isn’t something that was created for private use that was leaked. It was content made for public consption. Being disgusted with how the public chooses to consume it is your right, but there’s no way to control that.
Again, I entirely sympathize with the women experiencing this. Being used in this manner is dehumanizing.
But there’s no stopping it. Best to accept as best you can and ignore it.
This isn’t like its revenge porn or anything though. Everything about the filming of the scene was consentual and released to the public consentually. Whats the issue with a dude wanting to organixe and jerk off to the scenes?
Involuntary porno sounds like something was leaked or filmed at gunpoint.
There’s a fundamental difference between doing that and publicizing something though.
But would it not be just as weird, creepy, and taboo for one to do it with non-nude and therefore non-pornographic material? Would pictures of feet being passed around not be just as weird but also not covered under this law?
Is there? According the the law the issue is that he took the scenes as pornographic when they weren’t. Not that he organized and posted the scenes in the first place.
Maybe the scenes being filmed weren’t intended to be viewed sexually? There are lots of ways you can make nudity non-sexual.
I think the whole point is that the actresses didn’t agree to be jerked off to going in.
I don’t think anybody agrees to being jerked off to or not. There’s no contract between actors and audience.
Not in America, at least
Its like how in general (in the US) you dont have an expectation of privacy in public - You went to the mall, if someone is filming at the mall you might get caught in that.
You performed nude in this movie that was released to the public, you can’t then get mad that people are looking at you nude. Are we going to start monitoring streaming services for people who start a movie then click immediately to 00:49:32 a few times a week then go arrest them too?
Tl;Dr: Sharing Nude scenes out-of-context are considered a form of involuntary pornography in Denmark (portraying artistic nudity as pornography) and this man was arrested for compiling and sharing nude scenes of Danish actors from Danish films and sharing them while inside Denmark…
This has nothing to do with film studio profits or piracy, this is a man who ran afowl of his home country’s laws about pornography.
And to be fair, a woman appearing nude in a film doesn’t mean that sexualizing the shit out of her publicly isn’t scummy fucked up behavior. I think I understand the law here.
Afoul, surely?
It is. And don’t call me Shirley.
Not well versed in bird law, eh?
We cock things up sometimes.
Busted.
Good argument but if the guy uploading it would be in another country this law couldn’t be enforced. Basically it’s an unenforceable standard. To insist on enforcing it could lead to draconian measures.
The article mentions upload filters but that then again create a large burden. This burden requires more work or more money. Which leads to a centralization or monopolization of the internet. Which would be in the interest of social media corporation who can shoulder the burden.
In the future the ethical issues of porn could be solved by investing in and creating a near perfect AI porn model that can serve all our degenerate needs WITHOUT requiring humans to take their clothes off. Basically ethically sourced synthetic “vegan” porn that is created for your on demand in your own home. And then you can ban all the real porn because the demand for it will plummet. Of course there will still be people who get off on the abuse instead of on the fantasy.
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We have a meticulously curated list over here at our Pirated Pornography Board.
WTF? 😧
Lmao
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Wrong speak
Yeah Denmark is very relaxed about bodies and public nudity in general. Denmark was the world’s first country (in the modern world) to legalize porn. However, consent matters and consenting to one type of exposure doesn’t mean consenting to everything.
Honestly I feel a bit uncomfortable seeing nudity in films. I think “he’s this person who’s half my age, so agreed to take her clothes off and be filmed because her job required it”.
Not sure what happened midway through this example, but the nudity may settle my remaining questions.
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They choose which films they work on, and they do have influence over how sex scenes are filmed and performed. At least in the US, the union does protect actors.
Nudity is fine its long boring softcore sex scenes that are the real crime