I feel like it’s really really important to embarrass governments now and again. It shakes up the order of things, and brings light to those dark, icky things that we really don’t want our governments doing.
All institutions have a tendency to become complacent and self-serving over time. This kind of scrutiny and pressure from outside is necessary to interfere with that tendency.
It would not embarrass the government. They’re lying and they know it. People who let the Nazis into Canada have long since retired or died. But their children and grandchildren are still around, as are the new generation of racists. It’s these latter groups that dislike any kind of transparency and justice. Embarrassment has nothing to do with it.
“A few stakeholders were concerned that the release of the report would result in new legal action (criminal prosecution, citizen revocation, or otherwise) being brought against the individuals named in the report,” a summary of the library’s discussions noted.
Bro, WTF? Are these “stakeholders” also Nazis? Release their names, too.
Jesus Christ, let the Canadian public know who they are, and prosecute them as war criminals. Time does not invalidate what the Nazis did, and any that are still alive should still face the consequences of their actions.
If a leading Nazi could easily go into the ranks of the US government and kick start its space program that eventually led them to land on the moon and everyone was perfectly OK with that … then it would become much, much easier to ignore every lesser Nazi that ever came out post World War Germany.
Look up Operation Paperclip and look up the history of Wernher von Braun
In post war Canada as many critics have pointed out … it was far easier and more acceptable to be a former enemy Nazi and Fascist … then it was to be a former war ally socialist or communist.
Our ancestors and relatives who fought in this war against one ideology came home after the war to mix with the same people they fought against supporting the same ideology they had just fought against a few years prior.
The worst part of this history is that Nazism and Fascism is like a cancer that we allowed to stick around after the war and we literally fostered and grew it ever since and now we are dealing with it all again … all because a small group of entitled morons, millionaires and billionaires were afraid of a bit of socialism that could have spread the wealth a bit to everyone else.
As is often observed, liberals (of the political philosophy, not the party) are always far more ready to align themselves with fascists than with the left, despite their sometimes leftish words.
I couldn’t care less if they released the names of some geriatric Nazis from WW2. Prosecute the ones still alive and drop it so we can move on to real issues.
It’s probably embarrassing because they were brought over at the behest of powerful people who would rather it not be know than they patronized Nazis for political or monetary gain.
Werner von Braun was difficult enough, but you could make the case that they needed to keep him and scientists like him out of Soviet control. This is was probably just people that the Laurentian elite played wet towel tag with at Upper Canada College.
“A few stakeholders were concerned that the release of the report would result in new legal action (criminal prosecution, citizen revocation, or otherwise) being brought against the individuals named in the report,”
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Good
As it should.
I feel like it’s really really important to embarrass governments now and again. It shakes up the order of things, and brings light to those dark, icky things that we really don’t want our governments doing.
All institutions have a tendency to become complacent and self-serving over time. This kind of scrutiny and pressure from outside is necessary to interfere with that tendency.
It would not embarrass the government. They’re lying and they know it. People who let the Nazis into Canada have long since retired or died. But their children and grandchildren are still around, as are the new generation of racists. It’s these latter groups that dislike any kind of transparency and justice. Embarrassment has nothing to do with it.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant
Bro, WTF? Are these “stakeholders” also Nazis? Release their names, too.
Jesus Christ, let the Canadian public know who they are, and prosecute them as war criminals. Time does not invalidate what the Nazis did, and any that are still alive should still face the consequences of their actions.
If a leading Nazi could easily go into the ranks of the US government and kick start its space program that eventually led them to land on the moon and everyone was perfectly OK with that … then it would become much, much easier to ignore every lesser Nazi that ever came out post World War Germany.
Look up Operation Paperclip and look up the history of Wernher von Braun
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/chasing-moon-wernher-von-braun-and-nazis/
In post war Canada as many critics have pointed out … it was far easier and more acceptable to be a former enemy Nazi and Fascist … then it was to be a former war ally socialist or communist.
Our ancestors and relatives who fought in this war against one ideology came home after the war to mix with the same people they fought against supporting the same ideology they had just fought against a few years prior.
The worst part of this history is that Nazism and Fascism is like a cancer that we allowed to stick around after the war and we literally fostered and grew it ever since and now we are dealing with it all again … all because a small group of entitled morons, millionaires and billionaires were afraid of a bit of socialism that could have spread the wealth a bit to everyone else.
As is often observed, liberals (of the political philosophy, not the party) are always far more ready to align themselves with fascists than with the left, despite their sometimes leftish words.
Not really, its long ago and everyone took some Nazis.
What if there’s high prevalence in some specific party, movement or ideology?
So?
When gov’ts keep shit like this secret it never goes well.
Release it.
Be Fucking Honest
There are VERY few things that should be kept as a government secret in Canada.
And even if this was one of them, it clearly can’t be that secretive if we’re hearing about it.
Oh you sweet, summer child.
You’re even more cute, my friend.
In a sane world, this would apply to every government.
Well, yeah.
I couldn’t care less if they released the names of some geriatric Nazis from WW2. Prosecute the ones still alive and drop it so we can move on to real issues.
Like prosecuting those “trucker convoy” idiots!
They all deserve eternal contempt.
It’s not embarrassing that they’re Nazis.
It’s probably embarrassing because they were brought over at the behest of powerful people who would rather it not be know than they patronized Nazis for political or monetary gain.
Werner von Braun was difficult enough, but you could make the case that they needed to keep him and scientists like him out of Soviet control. This is was probably just people that the Laurentian elite played wet towel tag with at Upper Canada College.
Can we also bulldoze the Nazi SS cemetery in Oakville and for good measure, flood it with piss?
Apparently the monument is gone “for repairs”.
What are you talking about?
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/14th-waffen-grenadier-division-of-the-ss-nazi-monument-oakville
And?
“A few stakeholders were concerned that the release of the report would result in new legal action (criminal prosecution, citizen revocation, or otherwise) being brought against the individuals named in the report,”
Also known as “justice” and “law”.