I've been on vacation, so I haven't been
following the Stack Overflow moderator
strike.1 Not that there has
been much progress. Negotiations stalled for a variety of
reasons. Meanwhile
Stack Overflow's CEO, Prashanth Chandrasekar, dug the company's hole a
bit deeper during an interview with
VentureBeat.
Not to be confused with the [Writers and Actors Guilds ↩
The real problem is honesty of the users and rewarding system. Why do people copy and paste answers from chatgpt? Or even spend time to create bots? Because there is some kind of reward for them. The reward is what needs to change. The reward is the driving force to “cheat”. Why are these people doing it? What’s the reward they are after? I have no idea. But there is the problem to solve
The Stack Overflow user interface doesn’t understand Stack Overflow if “closed as duplicate” is so common. A wiki would have been better instead of a Q&A site
Shh the people are frothing at the mouth. Protect yourself and your own, grab the popcorn and enjoy the show. I think we are pretty much past rationalizing.
His golden parachute value is tied to the stock value of the company, so of course he doesn’t care about long term projections, only short term while he’s still at the company for a couple years.
I don’t understand your negativity. How else would you write a proposal for a completely new system to be talked about, if not in an idealistic and prescriptive manner? That’s the first step to then start a discussion about it and find and fix the aspects that people expect to not work in practice.
China is communist in name only, in practice they are the definition of State Capitalism. I also wouldn’t describe a dictatorship that commits genocide as a success, in any case.
China is successful from the capitalistic point of view, but it failed to uphold the ideals and principles of the system described in the document. The exploitation of the people is through the roof.
Edit:
To further explain my point: Communism is a flawed system that cannot exist in its idealistic form due to the excessive concentration of power in the state, leading to three potential outcomes:
The collapse of the country.
The transformation into a state capitalist system, as seen in China.
The transformation into an authoritarian regime, as seen in North Korea.
Communism is, in my opinion, a pipe dream because it proposes a classless, stateless society where the means of production are collectively owned and wealth is distributed equally among all members. However, in practice, historical attempts at implementing communism have faced challenges in terms of human nature, central planning inefficiencies, and lack of incentives, leading to economic stagnation, authoritarian rule, and often the collapse of the system.
Prove that this was a necessary condition in the first place. Places to freely trade information with other people existed before “captialism” was even a word.
Obviously anything that succeeds in a capitalist economy succeeded because of capitalism, and anything that succeeds in a not-fully-capitalist economy does so in spite of the corrupting influence of socialism.
Remember, capitalism can’t fail; it can only be failed!
Answer my original question first and you have your proof or not. If you can’t answer, there’s your proof.
Yeah, information was freely traded before the advent of capitalism, and you’re still free to walk over to your neighbor’s house and ask questions about your code, but they’re not going to be near the quality of a large scale service like SO.
Where do you expect the resources to come from to have and serve content reliably? They don’t run on hatred of capitalism, they run on money.
They don’t run on hatred of capitalism, they run on money.
I’m pretty sure there’s a “hatred of capitalism” cable going in every Stack Overflow server rack! Don’t believe it? Well just answer my question, if you can’t, then there’s your proof
Prove your claim first then ask him to prove his. Even you yourself just admitted such things existed before capitalism. Therefore you concede his point. Prove your point.
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if we (re)build it. they will come. these new iterations should be community driven and without a board or CEO to discuss the idea with.
At this rate, this AI bandwagon will ruin a whole lot of our beloved places.
The real problem is honesty of the users and rewarding system. Why do people copy and paste answers from chatgpt? Or even spend time to create bots? Because there is some kind of reward for them. The reward is what needs to change. The reward is the driving force to “cheat”. Why are these people doing it? What’s the reward they are after? I have no idea. But there is the problem to solve
I really want to make a “closed as duplicate” joke about yet another billionaire being stupid and tanking their site.
The Stack Overflow user interface doesn’t understand Stack Overflow if “closed as duplicate” is so common. A wiki would have been better instead of a Q&A site
Why not make the text even harder to read on mobile, will you?
What’s wrong with it? It’s a bit of a small font perhaps, but works on mobile. Alternatively you can use the “reader” mode in your browser.
It looks great to me in mobile Firefox.
Oh ffs another billionaire dunce is about to destroy something nice, aren’t they?
Doubt the CEO of Stack Overflow is a billionaire
Shh the people are frothing at the mouth. Protect yourself and your own, grab the popcorn and enjoy the show. I think we are pretty much past rationalizing.
Are we talking about the same stack overflow?
His golden parachute value is tied to the stock value of the company, so of course he doesn’t care about long term projections, only short term while he’s still at the company for a couple years.
This perverse incentive has been brought to you by…
Capitalism! ✨
Ah yes the same evil capitalism that:
Do you have a better system in mind?
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/paul_cockshott_cyber_communism.md
That legitimately reads like it was written by a teenager who played a bunch of strategy games.
So much of it is “this is how it will be” in a prescriptive tone as if you can just will things into existence.
You could describe perfect capitalism in this exact manner, but obviously things don’t work in real life according to your perfect scenario.
I don’t understand your negativity. How else would you write a proposal for a completely new system to be talked about, if not in an idealistic and prescriptive manner? That’s the first step to then start a discussion about it and find and fix the aspects that people expect to not work in practice.
Here’s an article to answer your second paragraph. https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/yaffed/1972/mtccs/index.htm
I have a quiz for you; Name a single successive communist country.
Name a single country that actually implemented communism and wasn’t undermined by the West with coups, sanctions, or outright invasion.
Oh and the word you’re looking for is “successful”. “Successive” is not in any way a synonym.
China
China is communist in name only, in practice they are the definition of State Capitalism. I also wouldn’t describe a dictatorship that commits genocide as a success, in any case.
China is successful from the capitalistic point of view, but it failed to uphold the ideals and principles of the system described in the document. The exploitation of the people is through the roof.
Edit:
To further explain my point: Communism is a flawed system that cannot exist in its idealistic form due to the excessive concentration of power in the state, leading to three potential outcomes:
Communism is, in my opinion, a pipe dream because it proposes a classless, stateless society where the means of production are collectively owned and wealth is distributed equally among all members. However, in practice, historical attempts at implementing communism have faced challenges in terms of human nature, central planning inefficiencies, and lack of incentives, leading to economic stagnation, authoritarian rule, and often the collapse of the system.
Only if you can name a single successful capitalist country
Stack overflow could only generate and moderate its content through collectivism.
That’s true, but does your answer on SO pay the bills for running and serving the content?
Prove that this was a necessary condition in the first place. Places to freely trade information with other people existed before “captialism” was even a word.
A website costs money to register, develop, operate, and maintain.
Woah, money. Such a complicated concept that it only exists in capitalism!!
Damn you are grasping at straws man.
Obviously anything that succeeds in a capitalist economy succeeded because of capitalism, and anything that succeeds in a not-fully-capitalist economy does so in spite of the corrupting influence of socialism.
Remember, capitalism can’t fail; it can only be failed!
Slash S.
Answer my original question first and you have your proof or not. If you can’t answer, there’s your proof.
Yeah, information was freely traded before the advent of capitalism, and you’re still free to walk over to your neighbor’s house and ask questions about your code, but they’re not going to be near the quality of a large scale service like SO.
Where do you expect the resources to come from to have and serve content reliably? They don’t run on hatred of capitalism, they run on money.
I’m pretty sure there’s a “hatred of capitalism” cable going in every Stack Overflow server rack! Don’t believe it? Well just answer my question, if you can’t, then there’s your proof
In the early days of the internet, most content was not financially motivated. It was motivated by wanting to connect and a genuine altruistic feeling
Prove your claim first then ask him to prove his. Even you yourself just admitted such things existed before capitalism. Therefore you concede his point. Prove your point.
I’m starting to wonder why “billionaire” isn’t in the DSM.