I’d like to set up three or four cameras on the exterior of my house, but I’m not sure where to start with this project. Ideally, these cameras would get power over Ethernet and record to a hard drive in my house that I could access remotely with a decent user interface. If the system could notify me when movement is detected that would be ideal as well. I don’t like the idea of using a Google, Amazon, or similar product because I don’t want to pay a subscription and I want to have control of the footage. What are you using that more or less accomplishes what I’ve described?
The Home Assistant mobile client? Or is there a Frigate app, too? I have the Frigate webpage bookmarked and used that. It’s also available in the HA front end, but I prefer using Frigate directly.
I’ve been trying to get Frigate working, on and off, for about eight months now. I’ve got a Debian server but it just won’t detect my Coral TPU inside my Podman container. Since you need such an old version of Python to test the TOU I can’t prove it’s working in the host so I don’t know if the problem’s with the drivers of either my container setup. I vowed to get it working over the Christmas break but it’s still not there.
Not rootless but I can see the device, and even in privileged mode it doesn’t work. I’m currently trying to find a docker image I can run as root and prove the Coral is working.
Can you use the coral in any capacity outside of podman? It’s been a while, but I seem to recall similar issues, and using a different cable solved my issues. I specifically remember the cable being problematic, but not what the problem was (I’m pretty sure it wasn’t because the first cable was a crappy charge-only thing)
For the record it turned out to be because I hadn’t set write permissions to the hardware for my user because ChatGPT told me I only needed read permissions to be set up. This must be the first time since its conception that AI’s made a mistake.
Frigate for software. Add a Coral to your computer (they come in M.2, Mini PCIe, even USB) to handle the object detection. Configuration is slightly complex, but the documentation is very good.
I’m using a couple of Amcrest cameras which I have on a VLAN that can’t access the internet, so no spying from the manufacturer.
I also added a hard drive specifically for the recording. It stores a ton of days worth of footage and Frigate handles deleting old footage to make room for new. I figure that hard drive will probably fail sooner than my other drives which is why I got one just for that.
But don’t bother on an essentially depreciated google product, and skip the coral.
The devs have added the same functionality on the GPU side, and if you’ve got a gpu (and, well, you do, because OpenVino supports intel iGPUs) just use that instead and save the money on a coral for something more useful.
In my case, I’ve both used a coral AND openvino on a coffee lake igpu, and uh, if anything, the igpu was about 20% faster inference times.
Reolink cameras, cloud not required. Poe is perfect, but wifi works too if you don’t have a central NVR (since it won’t be constantly streaming). Right now, i have them set up to record on motion to their internal sd card and upload to my own ftp server. I dont require 24/7 recording so this works well for me. If you do need it, have an nvr and poe connected cameras and thats pretty much it. My setup allows me to access the video files however i want, the stream however i want and have no third party cloud provider.
^ This post right here. I also have Reolink cameras, solar powered wifi versions, and they have been great. The hub is perfect for storing the data as it has two SD card slots. Easily integrates into home assistant and the Reolink UI works well in the phone or computer apps.
I use UniFi Protect and record to my UDM, though you should be able to install it all on your own hardware if you’d prefer. Their cameras are pretty decent but a bit pricy in a lot of cases. Though they do support 3rd party cameras now.
I’ve also heard a lot of good things about frigate, but I’ve not really looked into it since I already have UniFi gear.
Ubiquiti killed the bring-your-own-hardware option for unifi protect many years ago, unless you go down the road of hacking their app into a docker image.
I misunderstood what you were saying, I wasn’t sure if protect required a UniFi hardware console or could be self hosted like the network application can be. It looks like it does require at least a Cloudkey gen 2 (or the plus which is what they currently sell) or one of their integrated consoles like a UDM.
Blueiris and some hikvision cameras. It’s not fancy, but it’s pretty straightforward to get running. I’m not super concerned with alerting and just run continuous recording looping after a few days.
I have a couple of setups, one has poe ip cams writing to a surveillance nvr which looks after motion detect etc. The other system relies on the camera software detecting motion and writing to a Nas.
Both systems are on their own subnet and are firewalled from everything else. I VPN as and when required.
I’ve found motion detect with alerts to be difficult to tune to get good detection without false alarms.
I’ve been using zoneminder with some POE IP cameras for a long time. It works pretty well, but the interface looks like it’s from the 90’s. I just wish it would do object detection so it wouldn’t send alerts because of shadows or a spider crawling across the lens.
My cameras have been out in the weather for over a decade and are starting to get a bit flaky. I will probably upgrade to some 4K analog cameras and a DVR that can do object detection. Modern IP cameras still don’t support gigabit and I don’t want any more 100M stuff on my network. I don’t trust WiFi for anything security related because it’s too easy to jam.
Home assistant with door sensors. Doors open and closing after normal hours send alerts to telegram. Likewise for any doors that are left open or sensor batteries that are running low. It also lets me know if any of my camera video feeds go offline.
Eufy doorbell. I don’t love the company but it’s cheap and stores my video encrypted locally. No monthly fees. It’s AI is very good at letting me know that someone came up to my door without pressing the doorbell.
Reolink cameras. I don’t love the company, The cameras are vaguely compatible with what I’m doing, put oh my god are they cheap, video quality is good and the night vision is really good.
Blue Iris for camera server running on an old laptop with an Nvidia card. I’m going to be swapping this out for frigate sometime the next year.
I probably have 300 hours into setting up Blue Iris. I have tweaked it and tweaked it and tweaked it. When any significant changes happen in zones that I’ve hand drawn for more than 4 seconds, Blue Iris will send a telegram message with a copy of the image with a orange rectangle around the change. My main street camera records 24x7, only saving frames that change in between, I’m in a rather dense community and people come to me for footage not infrequently.
The rest of my cameras only record significant events.
Right now, my biggest problem is false alarms. What I really want is to be notified if someone is in my driveway even briefly. Likewise on my back porch or my basement steps. But I don’t want to be notified if it’s my dog or a piece of trash or the beams of some headlights.
I’m planning on moving to Frigate with a coral tpu and probably having it notify me with NTFY, has telegram’s pretty bad at actually sending thumbnails to my watch.
Yup, Unifi 8 port POE. I put them in an isolated VLAN where they can’t see other things or get to the web on their own. I download updates for them log into their web interface and push the updates to them when I need it.
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I use homeassistant with frigate. detection, alerts and recording, it supports it all and the mobile client is useful to monitor it remotely.
The Home Assistant mobile client? Or is there a Frigate app, too? I have the Frigate webpage bookmarked and used that. It’s also available in the HA front end, but I prefer using Frigate directly.
There’s a Frigate app within Home Assistant.
There’s an add-on and an integration, yeah.
I’ve been trying to get Frigate working, on and off, for about eight months now. I’ve got a Debian server but it just won’t detect my Coral TPU inside my Podman container. Since you need such an old version of Python to test the TOU I can’t prove it’s working in the host so I don’t know if the problem’s with the drivers of either my container setup. I vowed to get it working over the Christmas break but it’s still not there.
Are you running podman rootless? Maybe a permission issue?
Not rootless but I can see the device, and even in privileged mode it doesn’t work. I’m currently trying to find a docker image I can run as root and prove the Coral is working.
Can you use the coral in any capacity outside of podman? It’s been a while, but I seem to recall similar issues, and using a different cable solved my issues. I specifically remember the cable being problematic, but not what the problem was (I’m pretty sure it wasn’t because the first cable was a crappy charge-only thing)
For the record it turned out to be because I hadn’t set write permissions to the hardware for my user because ChatGPT told me I only needed read permissions to be set up. This must be the first time since its conception that AI’s made a mistake.
If you have a 6th gen or newer Intel CPU you don’t need a Coral, you can use OpenVINO instead and it works just as well.
Frigate for software. Add a Coral to your computer (they come in M.2, Mini PCIe, even USB) to handle the object detection. Configuration is slightly complex, but the documentation is very good.
I’m using a couple of Amcrest cameras which I have on a VLAN that can’t access the internet, so no spying from the manufacturer.
I also added a hard drive specifically for the recording. It stores a ton of days worth of footage and Frigate handles deleting old footage to make room for new. I figure that hard drive will probably fail sooner than my other drives which is why I got one just for that.
+1 for Frigate, because it’s fantastic.
But don’t bother on an essentially depreciated google product, and skip the coral.
The devs have added the same functionality on the GPU side, and if you’ve got a gpu (and, well, you do, because OpenVino supports intel iGPUs) just use that instead and save the money on a coral for something more useful.
In my case, I’ve both used a coral AND openvino on a coffee lake igpu, and uh, if anything, the igpu was about 20% faster inference times.
Oh interesting. How fast things change. I’ve only been using Frigate for around a year and I’m already behind the times.
If you have a 6th gen or newer Intel CPU you don’t need a Coral, you can use OpenVINO instead and it works just as well.
Reolink cameras, cloud not required. Poe is perfect, but wifi works too if you don’t have a central NVR (since it won’t be constantly streaming). Right now, i have them set up to record on motion to their internal sd card and upload to my own ftp server. I dont require 24/7 recording so this works well for me. If you do need it, have an nvr and poe connected cameras and thats pretty much it. My setup allows me to access the video files however i want, the stream however i want and have no third party cloud provider.
^ This post right here. I also have Reolink cameras, solar powered wifi versions, and they have been great. The hub is perfect for storing the data as it has two SD card slots. Easily integrates into home assistant and the Reolink UI works well in the phone or computer apps.
I use UniFi Protect and record to my UDM, though you should be able to install it all on your own hardware if you’d prefer. Their cameras are pretty decent but a bit pricy in a lot of cases. Though they do support 3rd party cameras now.
I’ve also heard a lot of good things about frigate, but I’ve not really looked into it since I already have UniFi gear.
Ubiquiti killed the bring-your-own-hardware option for unifi protect many years ago, unless you go down the road of hacking their app into a docker image.
It’s supported natively in the UI to configure: https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/26301104828439-Third-Party-Cameras-in-UniFi-Protect
It was added in EA in mid September and should be GA now as far as I know.
I’m confused, your post implied running unifi protect on your own hardware, but this link is about adding 3rd party camera streams into unifi protect.
Did I miss that?
I misunderstood what you were saying, I wasn’t sure if protect required a UniFi hardware console or could be self hosted like the network application can be. It looks like it does require at least a Cloudkey gen 2 (or the plus which is what they currently sell) or one of their integrated consoles like a UDM.
Dog hardware … with dog software I guess. Barks mostly reliably, but sometimes bugs out and keeps barking for no reason.
I also have dog. Lots of great features exclusive this platform, but it has a few shortcomings as you mentioned.
I need to get one. My cat hardware does okay with pest control, but not so great with security.
I use Frigate, works well with RTSP cameras such as Amcrest.
“CrimeDad” asking us about our security setups? Good try buddy.
Perhaps I’m ashamed to admit that there’s no crime in asking.
That’s quite punny if you asked me.
Well, puns are the quintessential dad crime.
Might also try !HomeAutomation@lemmy.world.
Thanks!
Blueiris and some hikvision cameras. It’s not fancy, but it’s pretty straightforward to get running. I’m not super concerned with alerting and just run continuous recording looping after a few days.
Motion sensor flood lights. Its all you need.
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I have a couple of setups, one has poe ip cams writing to a surveillance nvr which looks after motion detect etc. The other system relies on the camera software detecting motion and writing to a Nas.
Both systems are on their own subnet and are firewalled from everything else. I VPN as and when required.
I’ve found motion detect with alerts to be difficult to tune to get good detection without false alarms.
I’ve been using zoneminder with some POE IP cameras for a long time. It works pretty well, but the interface looks like it’s from the 90’s. I just wish it would do object detection so it wouldn’t send alerts because of shadows or a spider crawling across the lens.
My cameras have been out in the weather for over a decade and are starting to get a bit flaky. I will probably upgrade to some 4K analog cameras and a DVR that can do object detection. Modern IP cameras still don’t support gigabit and I don’t want any more 100M stuff on my network. I don’t trust WiFi for anything security related because it’s too easy to jam.
Home assistant with door sensors. Doors open and closing after normal hours send alerts to telegram. Likewise for any doors that are left open or sensor batteries that are running low. It also lets me know if any of my camera video feeds go offline.
Eufy doorbell. I don’t love the company but it’s cheap and stores my video encrypted locally. No monthly fees. It’s AI is very good at letting me know that someone came up to my door without pressing the doorbell.
Reolink cameras. I don’t love the company, The cameras are vaguely compatible with what I’m doing, put oh my god are they cheap, video quality is good and the night vision is really good.
Blue Iris for camera server running on an old laptop with an Nvidia card. I’m going to be swapping this out for frigate sometime the next year.
I probably have 300 hours into setting up Blue Iris. I have tweaked it and tweaked it and tweaked it. When any significant changes happen in zones that I’ve hand drawn for more than 4 seconds, Blue Iris will send a telegram message with a copy of the image with a orange rectangle around the change. My main street camera records 24x7, only saving frames that change in between, I’m in a rather dense community and people come to me for footage not infrequently. The rest of my cameras only record significant events.
Right now, my biggest problem is false alarms. What I really want is to be notified if someone is in my driveway even briefly. Likewise on my back porch or my basement steps. But I don’t want to be notified if it’s my dog or a piece of trash or the beams of some headlights.
I’m planning on moving to Frigate with a coral tpu and probably having it notify me with NTFY, has telegram’s pretty bad at actually sending thumbnails to my watch.
Do the cameras just connect to a switch with PoE?
Yup, Unifi 8 port POE. I put them in an isolated VLAN where they can’t see other things or get to the web on their own. I download updates for them log into their web interface and push the updates to them when I need it.
RTMP cameras with Motion: https://motion-project.github.io/
Do you mean
RTSP? Camera: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086L8TWM5?psc=1Also use Motion with post-Motion capture alerts sent via XMPP. Got the family on XMPP so it works out.
Correct! I get confused sometimes! :)