As it stands, both Piped and Invidious are dead.
Because od that, I almost completely stopped watching youtube but l’d still sometimes like to check what the people I follow posted (I used to do that via Piped).
Are there any new ways of following people without actually using Google? I’m aware of the tools that download new videos as they come out but I’m more interested in just “subscribing”, kinda like RSS?
Ideally it would be on iOS
Edit: I found it, “Unwatched” on iOS is awesome, thanks to !FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
They’re effectively dead. I haven’t ever found a single instance that works for more than a few days in years, despite people constantly recommending them.
Probably because people self-host them. I have an invidious instance self-hosted and use clipious on android to watch videos on it. Feels super modern and have pretty much no issues. Public instances usually don’t work because of datacenter ips get blocked by YouTube.
It doesn’t allow for forking so it is effectively proprietary. It is critical that the community can fork something when they don’t like the direction.
I agree that’s an important aspect of open source, but for me personally it’s more about being able to audit what is running on my machine. the fact that they show you the code lets me see and confirm for myself that they aren’t doing anything shady like spying. Though it might not be good enough for some people it definitely is for me.
It’s a level of transparency you won’t ever get from truly “proprietary” software.
yt-dlp --sponsorblock-remove all <url> is the way. It turns playlist link into nicely named, curated video files awaiting to played by a regular video player
Does “all” remove every type of segment? Because that seems excessive for most people, there is a lot of filler/etc sections that are over-zealously tagged.
I like that pipepipe provides an option to use a Google account fall back for videos that are age verified, since those don’t work anymore without an account.
And they got a content filter update too so can block channels and keywords.
That’s not GrayJay. That’s YT. They’ve started blocking access to users who use a VPN without logging in.
God forbid they don’t know everything about you.
Edit: response from FUTO
Seems to be related to UMP streams and we have issue opened for it and it’s top priority for us to fix this now. It is however very complex so it takes time to fix it but at least we figured out why it is happening and once it is fixed it should be a smooth experience on Youtube at least for a while until they change something else on their backend…
Oh, I wasn’t sure what platform you needed. For iOS, yeah I have no idea. For anyone else that comes across this though, Grayjay also has a desktop app now
Addressing the subscribing part; I had similar requirements, so I started subscribing via FreshRSS while using a custom theme to give it a YouTube-like experience.
I was using freshrss which can grab the rad feed for a channel, but I’ve moved to tube archivist with a Jellyfin plugin. Now they are all predownloaded and just show up on my tv via Jellyfin app.
It’s a way better way to keep track of what you want to watch.
Just curious if there’s a setting in any of those applications that removes downloaded videos which have been watched at least once, and after x amount of time? It’s sort of like a watch list. If watched, I don’t want to keep the video. But if I do, I can add it to a playlist and let PinchFlat download it for archive.
I was going to recommend android apps until I saw iOS. I don’t know anyones that let you keep a local subscription like newpipe does without needing to sideload. So if there are I’d be interested.
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I just use Newpipe
However, Piped and Invidious are not dead. YouTube is trying really hard to kill them but they still work somewhat. It is a cat and mouse game.
They’re effectively dead. I haven’t ever found a single instance that works for more than a few days in years, despite people constantly recommending them.
Probably because people self-host them. I have an invidious instance self-hosted and use clipious on android to watch videos on it. Feels super modern and have pretty much no issues. Public instances usually don’t work because of datacenter ips get blocked by YouTube.
https://grayjay.app/
“Absolutely proprietary”
Yeah, but at least it’s source available :P
Non-commercial clause, for those who are curious.
It doesn’t allow for forking so it is effectively proprietary. It is critical that the community can fork something when they don’t like the direction.
I agree that’s an important aspect of open source, but for me personally it’s more about being able to audit what is running on my machine. the fact that they show you the code lets me see and confirm for myself that they aren’t doing anything shady like spying. Though it might not be good enough for some people it definitely is for me.
It’s a level of transparency you won’t ever get from truly “proprietary” software.
My concern is that FUTO will start claiming that some other third party clients are stealing the code.
Be mindful that you don’t look at the Grayjay code before contributing to something like Newpipe
it does allowing forking and redistributing, but you cannot remove or obscure functionality related to payments. https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE.md
It doesn’t respect the 4 freedoms thus it isn’t foss. Use it if you want but keep in mind that FUTO has full control over the rights of Grayjay.
Oh, I didn’t know that. Yeah, I don’t like that at all.
I use Tubular (Newpipe with Sponsorblock) from polymorphicshade, though lol.
Been a NewPipe user since the very first alpha
My only issue with Grayjay (both Android and Windows app), is you have to manually export the videos out of Grayjay
If you try to grab the files directly, they don’t work.
It hasn’t been working lately. Videos stop at 0:59
Hmm, I haven’t had that issue
Eh fuck it, I’m enjoying freetube now
That’s a YouTube/VPN thing. Every other app is experiencing the same issue, in my experience.
Aaa you were right thanks! What a relief
yt-dlp --sponsorblock-remove all <url>is the way. It turns playlist link into nicely named, curated video files awaiting to played by a regular video playerDoes “all” remove every type of segment? Because that seems excessive for most people, there is a lot of filler/etc sections that are over-zealously tagged.
That seems like it would screw the creators more than YouTube.
Possibly, but for how ad laiden YT has become it’s a path I’m willing to take.
NewPipe or Patched YouTube App using ReVanced Manager
FreeTube still works for my Linux system, for most videos.
same
Newpipe still works on Android.
PipePipe has even more sources.
I like that pipepipe provides an option to use a Google account fall back for videos that are age verified, since those don’t work anymore without an account.
And they got a content filter update too so can block channels and keywords.
I thought I was the only one.
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Pump these numbers up brotha
Grayjay by FUTO has been working well for me
Grayjay started shitting the bed on me recently (Android via Samsung and Graphene, and on Desktop Linux/Windows) unless I disable vpn.
Even with Agent andDNS whitelisting for the apps.
A bit of a bummer after recently donating.
That’s not GrayJay. That’s YT. They’ve started blocking access to users who use a VPN without logging in.
God forbid they don’t know everything about you.
Edit: response from FUTO
Aye, that was my suspicion. Really awesome to be stripped of options for privacy so they can suck down that data.
Yt-dlp still works thankfully.
Forgot about that one but it’s only on Android (mobile-wise)
Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but you’re wrong…
https://grayjay.app/desktop/
Oh, I wasn’t sure what platform you needed. For iOS, yeah I have no idea. For anyone else that comes across this though, Grayjay also has a desktop app now
Addressing the subscribing part; I had similar requirements, so I started subscribing via FreshRSS while using a custom theme to give it a YouTube-like experience.
I shared the setup a few month ago here: https://lemmy.world/post/21381606
Edit: One of the benefits of using selfhosted RSS with a web interface is that it is platform agnostic.
@lent9004 @asbestos Holy crap, that looks like an awesome way to use Fresh. Thanks for posting it.
No worries! This setup ended up working better than I thought, and I’ve been using it as my primary way of interfacing with youtube.
Revanced and Firefox + uBlock Origin.
First one’s hard to set up, but I’m sure anybody self-hosting literally anything could do it in two seconds.
piped.video still works for me: subscriptions, categories, comments. Watching is MPV
I was using freshrss which can grab the rad feed for a channel, but I’ve moved to tube archivist with a Jellyfin plugin. Now they are all predownloaded and just show up on my tv via Jellyfin app.
It’s a way better way to keep track of what you want to watch.
Just curious if there’s a setting in any of those applications that removes downloaded videos which have been watched at least once, and after x amount of time? It’s sort of like a watch list. If watched, I don’t want to keep the video. But if I do, I can add it to a playlist and let PinchFlat download it for archive.
Deleting after x days is possible with Pinchflat, iirc.
I don’t think it checks if the video is watched in Jellyfin.
I was going to recommend android apps until I saw iOS. I don’t know anyones that let you keep a local subscription like newpipe does without needing to sideload. So if there are I’d be interested.
I just use yt-dlp and VLC ¯\(ツ)/¯
Unwatched is great on ios.
Whoa, this is it! This is what I’m looking for
This is awesome, thank you!
it’s so pointless
? its pointless to watch videos without it being tracked to an account and with adds removed?
Orion browser works fine for me on iOS