I’m on at least 2 blocklists at this point for the crime of not having reverse DNS set up. I don’t know how rDNS works. No amount of reading Wikipedia is helping me understand what I have to do.
I have a domain at a registrar which gives me bog standard DNS.
I have Apache running on my network.
I have PiHole running on my network.
My understanding is that rDNS is not set up at my registrar, but somewhere in my network. What do I do?
This is usually done by owner of the IP address block. If this is for a VPS or similar it will be your hosting provider. If you get a static IP from your internet service provider you will have to speak to them. Although depending on the policy of the provider this may be a business option only.
You are right, more specifically in case anyone is curious it usually has to be whomever owns the public IP addresses because that is who would own the reverse zone for that IP block according to the internet root dns servers in most circumstances. In OPs case you are probably right, this is probably the VPS provider but not always.
These guys are blocking a friend of mine who has the same setup as me https://matrix.spfbl.net " No rDNS was found. This IP has been flagged because have none valid FCrDNS. Register a valid rDNS for this IP, which points to the same IP. The rDNS must be registered under your own domain for you be able to delist it."
I want to, but I have routing issues that neither my ISP nor the people who suffer from it can pinpoint. I’m so far down this rabbit hole that I’m assuming my IP got on a blacklist that’s sitting on some random networking infrastructure and I’m just trying to resolve all blacklist issues on the off chance that it works.
DNSBL as result of lack of rDNS isn’t going to affect routing. Can you perhaps describe exactly what you’re having, and maybe we can figure out the solution together?
A number of people can’t route to me at all. My domain is drkt.eu and sits on port 80 and 443 @ 89.150.135.135 and 2a05:f6c7:8039::1337
IPv6 is not big in my country, and I don’t think anyone afflicted has IPv6 so I can’t tell you if this affects both v4 and v6.
It’s not a DNS issue, as the afflicted users can get the correct IPs from nslookup.
Mullvad VPN users are consistently unable to route to me.
One friend can’t route to me from his workplace network. It’s a small network and their admin claims they don’t block anything so it’s a mystery to him as well.
Another friend across town can’t reach my network despite being so close to me hop-wise, but his network is run by wacks and is consequently also quite wack. I can’t confidently say this is the same issue.
I’m not dropping any connections for any reason. My ISP claims they aren’t doing any blocking of domains or IPs.
Traceroutes time out at consistent hops but it’s different per afflicted network. The only recurring name has been costumer.tdc.net
It might not be related, but I can’t route to catbox.moe and their admin says my IPs are not blacklisted in any of their systems.
It’s not a DNS issue, as the afflicted users can get the correct IPs from nslookup.
You are correct; looking at the resolutions via Google’s toolbox, it seems to be resolving fine.
Traceroutes time out at consistent hops but it’s different per afflicted network. The only recurring name has been costumer.tdc.net
I did a couple of traceroute tests from a couple locations (two data centres, my local WiFi, and via cellular data), and they all seem to end at cpe.ae20-0.khk7nqp8.dk.customer.tdc.net. In teleco terms, cpe usually means “Client/Customer Premise Equipment”, so it wouldn’t surprise me if that is the address assigned to the network equipment closest to your server’s local network (think neighborhood hub, or PON on premise, something super close to the demarcation point). If everyone else is able to get that far, then I’m more inclined to think the drop is happening on your equipment, not your ISP’s equipment; but having said that, if this is a residential network (regardless if ISP is provisioning you gigabit connectivity via fibre or whatever), there will always be a likelihood for ISP to be doing more filtering.
If you don’t mind, what is the gateway you’re using? Is there an ISP gateway and then your own, or straight from ISP equipment into your network? Are there any (single/double) NAT going on? Are there’s any security/filtering options on (either) equipment(s)?
I have an ISP issued fiber modem that goes straight into my pfsense box. For IPv4 I have NAT and Firewall, for v6 it’s just the firewall. It should be noted that I’ve been hosting with this setup for years and it wasn’t a problem until I got this ISP at this location. I’ve had this ISP elsewhere without problems and another ISP here where it also wasn’t a problem.
The traceroutes getting dropped was a misconfiguration in my firewall on my part, it should work now!
My friend across town can now ping me successfully but going to my website still gives him ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT in browser.
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I got another troublesome user to run a quick test with the new firewall config. Also can’t reach my website. Pings DO time out for him! Traceroute expectedly also fails, last hop was cpe.ae20-0.khk7nqp8.dk.costumer.tdc.net [87.61.121.169]
Depending on your isp, you may be required to have a business class plan with a static ip. I went through something similar years ago for my business. This is old documentation for Verizon, but it’s a hint.
Copy pasted but I have routing issues that neither my ISP nor the people who suffer from it can pinpoint. I’m so far down this rabbit hole that I’m assuming my IP got on a blacklist that’s sitting on some random networking infrastructure and I’m just trying to resolve all blacklist issues on the off chance that it works.
Copy pasted but I have routing issues that neither my ISP nor the people who suffer from it can pinpoint. I’m so far down this rabbit hole that I’m assuming my IP got on a blacklist that’s sitting on some random networking infrastructure and I’m just trying to resolve all blacklist issues on the off chance that it works.
A number of people can’t route to me at all. My domain is drkt.eu and sits on port 80 and 443 @ 89.150.135.135 and 2a05:f6c7:8039::1337
IPv6 is not big in my country, and I don’t think anyone afflicted has IPv6 so I can’t tell you if this affects both v4 and v6.
It’s not a DNS issue, as the afflicted users can get the correct IPs from nslookup.
Mullvad VPN users are consistently unable to route to me.
One friend can’t route to me from his workplace network. It’s a small network and their admin claims they don’t block anything so it’s a mystery to him as well.
Another friend across town can’t reach my network despite being so close to me hop-wise, but his network is run by wacks and is consequently also quite wack. I can’t confidently say this is the same issue.
I’m not dropping any connections for any reason. My ISP claims they aren’t doing any blocking of domains or IPs.
Traceroutes time out at consistent hops but it’s different per afflicted network. The only recurring name has been costumer.tdc.net
It might not be related, but I can’t route to catbox.moe and their admin says my IPs are not blacklisted in any of their systems.
Routing to me has been solved, my router was incorrectly dropping pings on WAN because I messed up the firewall configs. The trouble users still can’t reach my website.
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This is usually done by owner of the IP address block. If this is for a VPS or similar it will be your hosting provider. If you get a static IP from your internet service provider you will have to speak to them. Although depending on the policy of the provider this may be a business option only.
You are right, more specifically in case anyone is curious it usually has to be whomever owns the public IP addresses because that is who would own the reverse zone for that IP block according to the internet root dns servers in most circumstances. In OPs case you are probably right, this is probably the VPS provider but not always.
Thank you so much. Luckily my ISP has been nice so far, I guess we’ll see.
rDNS is something that is not set up by your domain registrar. It’s set up by your ISP or cloud VM provider.
Can you expand on how you got blocked? First time I’ve heard of this.
I would love to tell you why they do this, but I can’t. I can only tell you that they tell me it’s because I don’t have rDNS
These guys are blocking me http://www.uceprotect.net/en/rblcheck.php “Level 1 HIGH DNS problem WARNING: No Reverse-DNS (PTR) is assigned to your IP”
These guys are blocking a friend of mine who has the same setup as me https://matrix.spfbl.net " No rDNS was found. This IP has been flagged because have none valid FCrDNS. Register a valid rDNS for this IP, which points to the same IP. The rDNS must be registered under your own domain for you be able to delist it."
Ugh, uceprotect is the worst of the worst with overly strict rules to encourage paying them to whitelist your IP. Just ignore them.
I want to, but I have routing issues that neither my ISP nor the people who suffer from it can pinpoint. I’m so far down this rabbit hole that I’m assuming my IP got on a blacklist that’s sitting on some random networking infrastructure and I’m just trying to resolve all blacklist issues on the off chance that it works.
Not sure if any seasoned sysadmin actually use uceprotect blocklist in their network though, so you shouldn’t lose sleep over that one.
Some light reading related to uceprotect:
uceprotect.wtf is amazing, thank you
DNSBL as result of lack of rDNS isn’t going to affect routing. Can you perhaps describe exactly what you’re having, and maybe we can figure out the solution together?
I would pay you money if you can fix this issue.
A number of people can’t route to me at all. My domain is drkt.eu and sits on port 80 and 443 @ 89.150.135.135 and 2a05:f6c7:8039::1337
IPv6 is not big in my country, and I don’t think anyone afflicted has IPv6 so I can’t tell you if this affects both v4 and v6.
It’s not a DNS issue, as the afflicted users can get the correct IPs from nslookup.
Mullvad VPN users are consistently unable to route to me.
One friend can’t route to me from his workplace network. It’s a small network and their admin claims they don’t block anything so it’s a mystery to him as well.
Another friend across town can’t reach my network despite being so close to me hop-wise, but his network is run by wacks and is consequently also quite wack. I can’t confidently say this is the same issue.
I’m not dropping any connections for any reason. My ISP claims they aren’t doing any blocking of domains or IPs.
Traceroutes time out at consistent hops but it’s different per afflicted network. The only recurring name has been costumer.tdc.net
It might not be related, but I can’t route to catbox.moe and their admin says my IPs are not blacklisted in any of their systems.
What’s your input?
You are correct; looking at the resolutions via Google’s toolbox, it seems to be resolving fine.
I did a couple of traceroute tests from a couple locations (two data centres, my local WiFi, and via cellular data), and they all seem to end at
cpe.ae20-0.khk7nqp8.dk.customer.tdc.net. In teleco terms,cpeusually means “Client/Customer Premise Equipment”, so it wouldn’t surprise me if that is the address assigned to the network equipment closest to your server’s local network (think neighborhood hub, or PON on premise, something super close to the demarcation point). If everyone else is able to get that far, then I’m more inclined to think the drop is happening on your equipment, not your ISP’s equipment; but having said that, if this is a residential network (regardless if ISP is provisioning you gigabit connectivity via fibre or whatever), there will always be a likelihood for ISP to be doing more filtering.If you don’t mind, what is the gateway you’re using? Is there an ISP gateway and then your own, or straight from ISP equipment into your network? Are there any (single/double) NAT going on? Are there’s any security/filtering options on (either) equipment(s)?
I have an ISP issued fiber modem that goes straight into my pfsense box. For IPv4 I have NAT and Firewall, for v6 it’s just the firewall. It should be noted that I’ve been hosting with this setup for years and it wasn’t a problem until I got this ISP at this location. I’ve had this ISP elsewhere without problems and another ISP here where it also wasn’t a problem.
The traceroutes getting dropped was a misconfiguration in my firewall on my part, it should work now!
My friend across town can now ping me successfully but going to my website still gives him ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT in browser.
EDIT ----------
I got another troublesome user to run a quick test with the new firewall config. Also can’t reach my website. Pings DO time out for him! Traceroute expectedly also fails, last hop was cpe.ae20-0.khk7nqp8.dk.costumer.tdc.net [87.61.121.169]
Depending on your isp, you may be required to have a business class plan with a static ip. I went through something similar years ago for my business. This is old documentation for Verizon, but it’s a hint.
https://community.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet-and-High-Speed/How-to-make-reverse-DNS-point-to-my-own-domain/td-p/1376002
Are you sending email from your ip?
If not this is irrelevant. Those block lists are only for email related spam filtering.
If you are, don’t send email from a home isp
No emails just routing issues.
Copy pasted but I have routing issues that neither my ISP nor the people who suffer from it can pinpoint. I’m so far down this rabbit hole that I’m assuming my IP got on a blacklist that’s sitting on some random networking infrastructure and I’m just trying to resolve all blacklist issues on the off chance that it works.
Blacklists are not your problem.
I’m listening to your suggestions.
Are you actually trying to send mail from your own smtp server? You mention apache and pihole which are completely unrelated.
No emails just routing issues.
Copy pasted but I have routing issues that neither my ISP nor the people who suffer from it can pinpoint. I’m so far down this rabbit hole that I’m assuming my IP got on a blacklist that’s sitting on some random networking infrastructure and I’m just trying to resolve all blacklist issues on the off chance that it works.
rDNS won’t really help with that, it’s just a DNS lookup that ties your IP to a hostname, typically used for mail server spam controls.
I’m desperate.
Have you done any traceroute runs when the issue is happening to try and diagnose where the routing issue is occurring?
Copied this from another comment I made
Do you have a different firewall/router you can try? Even just plug your PC directly into the modem for now to bypass your router and rule that out.
Routing to me has been solved, my router was incorrectly dropping pings on WAN because I messed up the firewall configs.The trouble users still can’t reach my website.What are you trying to do OP?
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