Like GoodReads, but tired of Amazon? BookWyrm might be what you're looking for.
Old, but just in case folks don’t know about this…
EDIT: I was stunned at all the upvotes this got, and from a two-year-old article to boot! I hope I didn’t do anything to overload their servers. When I posted about the Instagram/Pixelfed import tool, I was kind of surprised at how many folks that were on Lemmy didn’t already know about Pixelfed, which is why I posted this, also from We Distribute. For a long while, IIRC, the Fediverse pie chart was taken up almost entirely by Mastodon (which it probably still is) followed by a small but visible sliver of Pixelfed–Lemmy hardly registed at all. Just goes to show how fast we’ve grown!
EDIT EDIT: I see that some of you were a little bit disappointed with BookWyrm, but I hope you will stick with them because I think they can be an important member of the Fediverse. The sense that I get is that they’re stretched very thin, and could use some support, monetarily of course, but especially from other developers.
Unfortunately, yes. Sometimes buying from them is unavoidable, since they seem to have more books listed than anywhere else. I recommend alibris, not as big, but not owned by amazon. Sometimes if I find a book on Abe, I’ll check and see if the same seller is on alibris, which they often will be. Alibris also actually lets you rate the seller unlike abe!
Thiftbooks is my goto for used but I’ve always used Abe as a backup. For new I use bookshop.org. So disappointing. I will check out alibris. I know the name, but have never used the service.
There really is a need for some kind of exchange trade site. If you’re familiar with boardgame geek “math” trades, this is what I mean.
Imagine a site like ebay, where you upload your books that you would like to trade away, and you can “like” books that you want in return. Then somehow there is a market value or score assigned to items so that they can be traded amongst many users automatically.
Now imagine this for everything. We could go back to a bartering economy while cutting waste and cost.
I really like the idea, I’m going to have to try it again sometime soon.
The last time I tried, their database was missing a lot of books. When I imported my goodreads history, some books got dropped. But, worse, some of the books they didn’t know about were incorrectly matched to completely different books in their database. So my my reading history on bookwyrm.social is currently kind of a mess. I messaged someone on mastodon, who directed me to file an issue on github. I did, but no one ever responded to it.
Sweet, definitely not a type of implementation I’d expect on top of the fediverse so that makes it even cooler!
Looks super well thought out, especially love the robust import feature and federated book metadata. I’ll have to check it out sometime soon.
Oh, neat. I did a lot of librarian work on Goodreads over the years but I eventually wore out when I realized I was working for Amazon for free. I’ll take a look at this and see if any of the old librarian itch still needs scratching.
I signed up a few days ago. I never used GoodReads much. Last activity I had there was in 2013 and I kinda fell out of the habit of reading. But I picked up a book this week (and finished it in two days, haha), Recursion.
It let me import my GoodReads data and I’ve been slowly adding books to read to it. I think for me, the mental hurdle I had was the paralysis of choice. I decided to just pick a sci-fi book that was available for instant borrow on Libby and go from there. I currently started The Big Door Prize because I loved the first season of its TV adaptation. Happy to be reading again.
I feel that choice paralysis a lot. My reading moods fluctuate, so sometimes I want to read one genre or sometimes another, but I also have a massive TBR so I struggle determining what book I should read. I’ve learned to just let myself start something, and if it doesn’t work out, then I can stop and maybe pick it back up later. For instance, I just finished Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence, a book that I had tried to read three times prior. This was the first time my interest stuck, and now I am finishing the trilogy. But getting over that initial hurdle of “what should I read” can be difficult.
You can also import your Goodreads data for what it’s worth. It’s a bit wonky though, but I mainly use(d) Goodreads to track what I want to read and not to meticulously track the exact edition of every book, so it’s pretty ok.
One major improvement would be to able to install Bookwyrm as a PWA or if there was an app.
I’m using it but I’m a bit disappointed that I have 500+ books that didn’t import and I have to do it manually.
They will need to implement something like the librarians role there because the editions are getting messy already, I would be down to help as I did on GR before being bought by Amazon.
Well, I’ll keep loging what I read of course and I hope it grows and gets better.
I went through the export from GoodReads and import to Bookwyrm, and was also disappointed.
I only had 2 books that wouldn’t import, but once I was in, the lack of filtering and data-based lists was very meh. Maybe I’m missing something?
how do I browse books by category? I can only find user-generated lists.
how do I sort lists by popularity/rating? I can’t see a single filtering option.
no recommendations? Granted, GoodReads sucks at this as well, but I would really like there to be an algorithm that was somewhat capable of looking at what I like and suggesting similar things.
I know that recommendations require some data that might not be there, but there should also be data available already that is workable for a rudimentary Recommendations system:
— Sort my Read Books List by My Rating as List W.
— Select top 5 books from List W, sort by Book Rating, as List W¹.
— Book X is the top book in List W¹, and is classified as being in Category X.
— Find Book X in other libraries as List Y.
— (if data available, sort List X by some sort of metric, e.g. amount of list Likes).
— Select top list in List X as List Y.
— Look at other books in List Y, select any that are in Category X. This is List Z.
— Sort List Z by Book Rating, return top 5 books as Recommendations.
I know Bookwyrm is open source, but I don’t have the skills to write something like that 😕
(I’ve tried editing the horrible formatting of my suggestions, but they don’t seem to be saving. I’ll try again later)
I was able to follow my bookworym account on mastodon, but not sure how to use my existing accounts w/i bookwyrm. I think the functionality doesn’t translate well to other fediverse products w/ different setups… kinda like trying to interact w/ tweets (posts?) via lemmy
Doesn’t look like it’s possible yet. Doesn’t seem to work with Lemmy, either. Sounds like an interesting feature request for their respective issues trackers, though.
I like the idea.
But the license for the software and that i don’t even know underwhat license the content is makes me question if this is the answer to a foss goodreads.
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Besides Goodreads, Amazon also, unfortunately, owns or has stakes in Book Depository, Abebooks, BookFinder & LibraryThing.
Not AbeBooks!?! 😲😭
Unfortunately, yes. Sometimes buying from them is unavoidable, since they seem to have more books listed than anywhere else. I recommend alibris, not as big, but not owned by amazon. Sometimes if I find a book on Abe, I’ll check and see if the same seller is on alibris, which they often will be. Alibris also actually lets you rate the seller unlike abe!
Thiftbooks is my goto for used but I’ve always used Abe as a backup. For new I use bookshop.org. So disappointing. I will check out alibris. I know the name, but have never used the service.
There really is a need for some kind of exchange trade site. If you’re familiar with boardgame geek “math” trades, this is what I mean. Imagine a site like ebay, where you upload your books that you would like to trade away, and you can “like” books that you want in return. Then somehow there is a market value or score assigned to items so that they can be traded amongst many users automatically.
Now imagine this for everything. We could go back to a bartering economy while cutting waste and cost.
I am familiar! (as an owner of too many boardgames) I think this could work for a lot of things!
I know I’m not alone here, but truly a Letterboxd version of bookwyrm would be amazing. Esp if it had some integrations with Jellyfin.
+1
I really like the idea, I’m going to have to try it again sometime soon.
The last time I tried, their database was missing a lot of books. When I imported my goodreads history, some books got dropped. But, worse, some of the books they didn’t know about were incorrectly matched to completely different books in their database. So my my reading history on bookwyrm.social is currently kind of a mess. I messaged someone on mastodon, who directed me to file an issue on github. I did, but no one ever responded to it.
Hopping over now
Sweet, definitely not a type of implementation I’d expect on top of the fediverse so that makes it even cooler!
Looks super well thought out, especially love the robust import feature and federated book metadata. I’ll have to check it out sometime soon.
I’ve been meaning to check this out! It sounds so cool and possibly interacts with other fediverse things?
Yes it does. You can follow BookWyrm accounts from Mastodon and Calckey. At least that is what I tested.
Oh, neat. I did a lot of librarian work on Goodreads over the years but I eventually wore out when I realized I was working for Amazon for free. I’ll take a look at this and see if any of the old librarian itch still needs scratching.
It uses OpenLibrary and Inventaire as it’s sourced apparently. I don’t know if it contributes upstream though.
I just wish it had a Calibre plugin, I tend to forget to update services like these and rely on syncing with calibre to do it for me.
Thank you! I’ve seen this mentioned a couple of times and have been meaning to give it a try.
Awesome, thatnks for sharing, liked the idea of food reads but I’ve been put off by it being Amazon.
I signed up a few days ago. I never used GoodReads much. Last activity I had there was in 2013 and I kinda fell out of the habit of reading. But I picked up a book this week (and finished it in two days, haha), Recursion.
It let me import my GoodReads data and I’ve been slowly adding books to read to it. I think for me, the mental hurdle I had was the paralysis of choice. I decided to just pick a sci-fi book that was available for instant borrow on Libby and go from there. I currently started The Big Door Prize because I loved the first season of its TV adaptation. Happy to be reading again.
I read Recursion a while back, it was a really strange book. I had to re-read the last parts to get a decent grasp of what was going on at the end.
Lol how appropriate considering the context of the book 🤣
I feel that choice paralysis a lot. My reading moods fluctuate, so sometimes I want to read one genre or sometimes another, but I also have a massive TBR so I struggle determining what book I should read. I’ve learned to just let myself start something, and if it doesn’t work out, then I can stop and maybe pick it back up later. For instance, I just finished Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence, a book that I had tried to read three times prior. This was the first time my interest stuck, and now I am finishing the trilogy. But getting over that initial hurdle of “what should I read” can be difficult.
You can also import your Goodreads data for what it’s worth. It’s a bit wonky though, but I mainly use(d) Goodreads to track what I want to read and not to meticulously track the exact edition of every book, so it’s pretty ok.
One major improvement would be to able to install Bookwyrm as a PWA or if there was an app.
There is: https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/nl.privacydragon.bookwyrm?repo=main
I’m using it but I’m a bit disappointed that I have 500+ books that didn’t import and I have to do it manually. They will need to implement something like the librarians role there because the editions are getting messy already, I would be down to help as I did on GR before being bought by Amazon. Well, I’ll keep loging what I read of course and I hope it grows and gets better.
I went through the export from GoodReads and import to Bookwyrm, and was also disappointed.
I only had 2 books that wouldn’t import, but once I was in, the lack of filtering and data-based lists was very meh. Maybe I’m missing something?
I know that recommendations require some data that might not be there, but there should also be data available already that is workable for a rudimentary Recommendations system:
I know Bookwyrm is open source, but I don’t have the skills to write something like that 😕
(I’ve tried editing the horrible formatting of my suggestions, but they don’t seem to be saving. I’ll try again later)
Is there any federated interaction between BookWyrm and Kbin? Can I follow book or author updates or keep up with reviews or conversation?
I was able to follow my bookworym account on mastodon, but not sure how to use my existing accounts w/i bookwyrm. I think the functionality doesn’t translate well to other fediverse products w/ different setups… kinda like trying to interact w/ tweets (posts?) via lemmy
I was hoping that because Kbin does support mastodon posts it might work. I’d love to see that integration
Doesn’t look like it’s possible yet. Doesn’t seem to work with Lemmy, either. Sounds like an interesting feature request for their respective issues trackers, though.
I like the idea.
But the license for the software and that i don’t even know underwhat license the content is makes me question if this is the answer to a foss goodreads.
I highly recommend Storygraph