Earlier this year, Reuters reported that Tesla had created a special “diversions team” to avoid dealing with complaints from customers about their vehicle ranges.
So, basically… “an investigation into whether we lied to customers in order to sell them stuff would have an impact on our business”. Well, yeah, that’s true. Shockingly, customers don’t like being lied to about the quality of the goods they’re buying, and hearing that there’s enough indication of lying to warrant a full probe into it would make future customers hesitant to buy. While wrongdoing hasn’t been proven yet, I can’t imagine this probe would be happening “just in case” Tesla lied - there must have been a high volume of complaints from customers who aren’t happy. The precedent set by not investigating would be awful. It’d basically say businesses can claim whatever they like about their products, because being caught lying about them would always have the consequence of “material adverse impact on our business”.
@Five So put into 5 words it’s Tesla admitting:“Every single word is true”? I’ve no idea why else it should have “adverse impact”. And if so, it SHOULD have that impact – to keep others at bay and protect those who’re not billionaire man-babies.
Why are there so many comments that start with “@five”? I feel like there’s something about how the site works that I’m misunderstanding. Isn’t the user who posted the article automatically notified when someone posts a comment?
I think that’s from mastodon users, and how mastodon works when replying. I haven’t personally used mastodon though, so someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
That’s correct. @aral@mastodon.ar.al discovered and boosted the post, and it snowballed across the Tootiverse. They’re all pinging @Five because that’s how Mastodon does post replies.
It’s somewhat annoying but also really interesting that the two interop relatively well due to their use of a common protocol (ActivityPub). I mean imagine Twitter users being able to browse and comment on Reddit posts directly on Twitter - that’s essentially what’s happening.
It’s probably not too difficult to modify Lemmy to hide mentions that are at the start of a comment, which would solve the issue.
The SEC might also look into the question, whether repeated false claims about Tesla’s self-driving capabilities had an impact on the company’s share price.
I have to wonder if the entire concept of the business savvy billionaire is just a case of survivorship bias. Not for all of them, but a lot.
I mean, if you get the population of the civilized world together and have them start flipping coins, plenty of people are going to get heads 20 times in a row. Or if they’re from a rich family maybe they only have to get 10 heads in a row.
(Used round numbers for illustration. 20 heads in a row is only about 1 in a million, 10 heads is one in a thousand.)
It’s more like, it costs a lot of money to get a chance to flip those coins in the first place, so someone who’s already rich to begin with will get many more tries.
Yep. I was going to write that maybe somebody like Warren Buffett would stand out as the real deal who is consistent and could do it again. But even if that’s true and he is 100% unique skill, he STILL got very lucky by birth.
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This sounds a lot like a threat.
Good. Fuck that chowder-head #fascist.
So, basically… “an investigation into whether we lied to customers in order to sell them stuff would have an impact on our business”. Well, yeah, that’s true. Shockingly, customers don’t like being lied to about the quality of the goods they’re buying, and hearing that there’s enough indication of lying to warrant a full probe into it would make future customers hesitant to buy. While wrongdoing hasn’t been proven yet, I can’t imagine this probe would be happening “just in case” Tesla lied - there must have been a high volume of complaints from customers who aren’t happy. The precedent set by not investigating would be awful. It’d basically say businesses can claim whatever they like about their products, because being caught lying about them would always have the consequence of “material adverse impact on our business”.
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I did not fully understand it, so not sure I’d want to risk money on it.
@Five So put into 5 words it’s Tesla admitting:“Every single word is true”? I’ve no idea why else it should have “adverse impact”. And if so, it SHOULD have that impact – to keep others at bay and protect those who’re not billionaire man-babies.
@Five Oh good.
What he means is that being found out for lying will impact how much people believe him.
Well no shit Sherlock.
Is that how that works? /s
@Five @voron I can’t wait until this vile grifter is in prison.
Why are there so many comments that start with “@five”? I feel like there’s something about how the site works that I’m misunderstanding. Isn’t the user who posted the article automatically notified when someone posts a comment?
appears to be mastodon users simply formatting their responses as if this was a mastodon (microblog) post instead of lemmy post, which is nbd.
I think that’s from mastodon users, and how mastodon works when replying. I haven’t personally used mastodon though, so someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
That’s correct. @aral@mastodon.ar.al discovered and boosted the post, and it snowballed across the Tootiverse. They’re all pinging @Five because that’s how Mastodon does post replies.
That’s annoying.
It’s somewhat annoying but also really interesting that the two interop relatively well due to their use of a common protocol (ActivityPub). I mean imagine Twitter users being able to browse and comment on Reddit posts directly on Twitter - that’s essentially what’s happening.
It’s probably not too difficult to modify Lemmy to hide mentions that are at the start of a comment, which would solve the issue.
@Five
The SEC might also look into the question, whether repeated false claims about Tesla’s self-driving capabilities had an impact on the company’s share price.
Looking forward to the mob using that as a legal defense.
Oh no! Anyway.
@Five like his cars, Elon comes up short.
@Five I feel like that’s only possible if they actually did …
For a “genius”, he sure is slow on the uptake.
He sure is lucky for someone so stupid.
The world tends to find that having an extraordinarily wealthy parent makes its own luck.
I have to wonder if the entire concept of the business savvy billionaire is just a case of survivorship bias. Not for all of them, but a lot.
I mean, if you get the population of the civilized world together and have them start flipping coins, plenty of people are going to get heads 20 times in a row. Or if they’re from a rich family maybe they only have to get 10 heads in a row.
(Used round numbers for illustration. 20 heads in a row is only about 1 in a million, 10 heads is one in a thousand.)
It’s more like, it costs a lot of money to get a chance to flip those coins in the first place, so someone who’s already rich to begin with will get many more tries.
So much of it is luck, starting from birth onwards.
Yep. I was going to write that maybe somebody like Warren Buffett would stand out as the real deal who is consistent and could do it again. But even if that’s true and he is 100% unique skill, he STILL got very lucky by birth.
He won the birth lottery, as it were