It’s like they are trying to irritate people into canceling their accounts.
Imo, this one might actually be worse than the account sharing and cause people to quit. As soon as you have people messing around with their subscription version, it’s all too easy to just say “nah, I actually don’t want this anymore”.
I really should thank Netflix for finally motivating me to actually get off my ass and build my home server. After cancelling all of my streaming subscriptions, it really does pay for itself.
Lol, so we got people to remove family accounts, paying more because they can’t share anymore. Then people probably downgraded because it’s not worth it more than $10 for one person. And now they’re killing that too, so there’s no reason to use Netflix?
The thing I don’t get (I do - it’s greed, FYI) is why the fuck they even care? If I’m paying for 2 or 4 screens on my Netflix account, why the fuck does it even matter which address they’re playing at? Netflix were about to sting me because my stepkids (who are with us half the time) were using my account while at their dad’s.
Believe it or not, Netflix finally drove me to Plex. I’d been holding out, still using Kodi, but decided the money I was saving could go towards a much nicer setup, and it did. A pair of HP DL380 G7s, Proxmox - the works.
Now my stepkids use my Plex server, and have both happily streamed the latest Black Mirror from it (shit season, BTW - another hump in the downhill shitshow that Netflix has become). And the savings from my cancelled Netflix sub will have paid for it over the next 12 months or so.
It’s simple - you’re paying for 2 or 4 screens, but you could be paying for 2 or 4 screens AND multiple accounts! That would give them more of your money, so it’s their preferred option.
Love might be sharing a password, but profit is paying multiple times for the same thing, so here we are…
After some discussion with the Minister for War and Finance (my wife), we agreed I had a modest budget (~$300AUD) to spend on some old enterprise servers, which I did.
But I’ve seen plenty of posts where people are getting away with their old gaming rigs, and the like.
I’ve got a PC that my job was throwing out and I put a CPU, hard drive and RAM combo I got on Craigslist (that’s like gumtree) for $20USD in there and I’ve only ever had problems with 4k and HDR. Plex itself is pretty cheap perf-wise! Transcoding can be a problem but you can set it up to pre-transcode multiple quality options or just stream it original quality if you have the bandwidth.
I set up mine shortly after cancelling Netflix after the last price increase about a year ago.
Repurposed an old Raspberry Pi 3 that had been a Kodi setup. Added a spare 2TB PS4 external HD. Been working great the last year. But looking to get an actual NAS setup to replace paying for google photos (my wife), more Plex storage, and a python dev server. That’ll run my about $900 though.
They made record profits during quarantine, when everyone was stuck at home. Now they have two problems:
Some of those people have cancelled because they’re now busy.
They’re expected by shareholders to continue that kind of profit increase forever.
They don’t actually care any more than they ever did, this is just an easy way to get money out of accounts they see as less likely to cancel because many people are using the same account.
is why the fuck they even care? If I’m paying for 2 or 4 screens on my Netflix account, why the fuck does it even matter which address they’re playing at?
You and your family could be paying for 2-3 accounts instead, and also paying for the 2 or 4 screen plan on all of them if you want 4K.
Maybe you won’t, but many will. And they’ll offset you unsubscribing your one account.
Plus even if they increase their total subscriptions by only 10% it’s still worth it, because they probably lost active users, so there’s less actual load on their servers for the same amount of subs.
I dropped my 4 screen plan in October or November when I first heard about the upcoming sharing restrictions because it was actually being used from 3 or 4 locations, but unfortunately I think us cancellers are probably outnumbered by people who just created new accounts because they had to stop using someone else’s.
I think us cancellers are probably outnumbered by people who just created new accounts
Oh, 100% right there. Those of us that are both willing to cancel and capable of setting ourselves up with an alternative like Plex are, sadly, in the minority. I’m doing my bit, though. Have invited a couple of friends to my library and showed them how to use the app, and they’ve happily cancelled their Netflix as well.
Yeah, I tried Jellyfin but, at the time, it wasn’t as well-featured as Plex. I might go back for a second look but, as I got Plex Pass lifetime sub on special, there’s no ongoing cost to offset against the pain of getting my family to adopt yet another new app.
I gave up on Netflix so many years ago now with zero regrets. The second they started their rumblings (nearly a decade ago now) about wanting to stop people from accessing other countries media selection I said fuck it, spun up a Plex install and never looked back.
I like how they keep testing this crap on the Canadian market.
I dont know if were the best guinea pigs, I mean look at what we pay for telecoms. We’re pretty passive when it comes to being gouged, other countries might not be so potato-like in their response.
Most people I know will be subscribed to one streaming service and switch every few months to get the shows they want. I’m expecting most streaming services to become a lot more “user hostile” as they try to squeeze out every penny.
When I was a poor kid I pirated, went to paying as a working adult, now I am back to buying random DVDs at thirftshops but if they keep this clown thing up, I will sail. These clowns have hard time understanding who controls the money flows here, shiti video streaming service is not a monopoly/utility…
That’s the thing that’s always bothered me about the online services. Sure, I can “buy” a movie or series or whatever, but I only have actual access to it so long as I still subscribe, the service has rights, and I have access (like, if I’m on a plane or ship, suddenly I can’t watch something).
If I download a copy, it’s mine for as long as the physical media lasts. I can keep it theoretically forever, I can put copies on my phone or the cloud, stream to my computer, my cousin’s tv, whatever.
It’s been a while since I last has Netflix. I found myself looking through their selection with nothing enticing me to watch. I don’t know how people keep it for years. Did you always find something you liked?
Lol yeah it wasn’t the screen sharing thing that got me. When the news about that came up I realized I hadn’t used Netflix for 6+ months. There’s just nothing good in their library anymore
lol i basically mainly only have netflix cause my roommate accepts it as payment to use his internet. Otherwise i would constantly unsub after watching a show.
Way back a few years ago when Netflix started going down hill, I cut back to the cheapest plan at like $8.99 - it was limited to one screen at a time, and 1080p resolution. That’s fine - my big TV is only 1080p resolution anyway so it worked.
Then they quietly raised pricing to $9.99 and I noticed my resolution had decreased to 720p. That was about two years ago. I cancelled my Netflix subscription after over 15 years as a Netflix customer (pre streaming back when it was DVD rentals only). I don’t miss it.
Already planning on cancelling other services like HBO Max next - just don’t watch enough television to justify it.
HBO Max is going the way of Netflix anyways after Discovery bought them out. Why a failed reality TV network thinks they know how to do TV better than a 30+ year old household name for quality, I’ll never know.
Yep. I guess it’s a good thing I just don’t watch much television anyway these days. There’s more to life than vegetating on a couch watching a television screen. I’d rather be tending to the garden, burning calories in the gym, socializing with friends, running my small business, etc - guess I’m just not the target customer in general for streaming platforms haha.
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Thumbs up for piracy. Once you figure out jellyfin/plex there’s no way back.
Only problem really is storage. High quality video can fill a hard drive pretty quick.
You’re absolutely right hehe I gave my media server 12TB thinking it woulf last ages but I already filled it in just a few short months.
Yeah, I just got started with jellyfin and it is amazing never going back
I really should thank Netflix for finally motivating me to actually get off my ass and build my home server. After cancelling all of my streaming subscriptions, it really does pay for itself.
Lol, so we got people to remove family accounts, paying more because they can’t share anymore. Then people probably downgraded because it’s not worth it more than $10 for one person. And now they’re killing that too, so there’s no reason to use Netflix?
The thing I don’t get (I do - it’s greed, FYI) is why the fuck they even care? If I’m paying for 2 or 4 screens on my Netflix account, why the fuck does it even matter which address they’re playing at? Netflix were about to sting me because my stepkids (who are with us half the time) were using my account while at their dad’s.
Believe it or not, Netflix finally drove me to Plex. I’d been holding out, still using Kodi, but decided the money I was saving could go towards a much nicer setup, and it did. A pair of HP DL380 G7s, Proxmox - the works.
Now my stepkids use my Plex server, and have both happily streamed the latest Black Mirror from it (shit season, BTW - another hump in the downhill shitshow that Netflix has become). And the savings from my cancelled Netflix sub will have paid for it over the next 12 months or so.
Thanks Netflix! Ya dumb cunts.
It’s simple - you’re paying for 2 or 4 screens, but you could be paying for 2 or 4 screens AND multiple accounts! That would give them more of your money, so it’s their preferred option.
Love might be sharing a password, but profit is paying multiple times for the same thing, so here we are…
how hard was it to do a plex server? did you just use an old pc or what did you use as the host?
After some discussion with the Minister for War and Finance (my wife), we agreed I had a modest budget (~$300AUD) to spend on some old enterprise servers, which I did.
But I’ve seen plenty of posts where people are getting away with their old gaming rigs, and the like.
I’ve got a PC that my job was throwing out and I put a CPU, hard drive and RAM combo I got on Craigslist (that’s like gumtree) for $20USD in there and I’ve only ever had problems with 4k and HDR. Plex itself is pretty cheap perf-wise! Transcoding can be a problem but you can set it up to pre-transcode multiple quality options or just stream it original quality if you have the bandwidth.
I set up mine shortly after cancelling Netflix after the last price increase about a year ago.
Repurposed an old Raspberry Pi 3 that had been a Kodi setup. Added a spare 2TB PS4 external HD. Been working great the last year. But looking to get an actual NAS setup to replace paying for google photos (my wife), more Plex storage, and a python dev server. That’ll run my about $900 though.
The Pi3 with the PS4 HD was less than $130.
They made record profits during quarantine, when everyone was stuck at home. Now they have two problems:
They don’t actually care any more than they ever did, this is just an easy way to get money out of accounts they see as less likely to cancel because many people are using the same account.
You and your family could be paying for 2-3 accounts instead, and also paying for the 2 or 4 screen plan on all of them if you want 4K.
Maybe you won’t, but many will. And they’ll offset you unsubscribing your one account.
Plus even if they increase their total subscriptions by only 10% it’s still worth it, because they probably lost active users, so there’s less actual load on their servers for the same amount of subs.
I dropped my 4 screen plan in October or November when I first heard about the upcoming sharing restrictions because it was actually being used from 3 or 4 locations, but unfortunately I think us cancellers are probably outnumbered by people who just created new accounts because they had to stop using someone else’s.
Oh, 100% right there. Those of us that are both willing to cancel and capable of setting ourselves up with an alternative like Plex are, sadly, in the minority. I’m doing my bit, though. Have invited a couple of friends to my library and showed them how to use the app, and they’ve happily cancelled their Netflix as well.
Personally I prefer jellyfin but I’ll usually stick Foss where Icabn
Yeah, I tried Jellyfin but, at the time, it wasn’t as well-featured as Plex. I might go back for a second look but, as I got Plex Pass lifetime sub on special, there’s no ongoing cost to offset against the pain of getting my family to adopt yet another new app.
Arrr 🏴☠️
Fuck Netflix. I bought a firestick and threw Stremio and a vpn on there. Watching Black Mirror without giving those cunts a penny.
Do you use to pay for a subscription?
For Netflix? Yeah I was subbed to the highest tier since 2015.
I upgraded to the 4k max firesticks. I have my own Plex server, so I basically have my own personal Netflix.
Pirate bros!
Netflix’s catalog seems to just be dying you watch one thing on there and you’ve seen everything.
We left Netflix after I decided I didn’t want to understand their rules.
“Number” of streams was easy to pay for and made sense. We paid for extra screens, so our parents could have easy access.
There are too many streaming options and services worth subscribing to these days, and more than any one person could watch so, well, not a problem.
Do I miss netflix, nope.
I had actually thought about signing up for the basic plan because it is just me who likes it, but I was put off by the low quality.
Well - I guess now I’ll be officially sticking to Plex.
I gave up on Netflix so many years ago now with zero regrets. The second they started their rumblings (nearly a decade ago now) about wanting to stop people from accessing other countries media selection I said fuck it, spun up a Plex install and never looked back.
I like how they keep testing this crap on the Canadian market.
I dont know if were the best guinea pigs, I mean look at what we pay for telecoms. We’re pretty passive when it comes to being gouged, other countries might not be so potato-like in their response.
If the docile sheep up North don’t go for it, then there’s no way the slightly less docile sheep South will go for it.
God, this is so painfully true.
| We’re pretty passive when it comes to being gouged
Only if you include cell phone plans, internet access, air travel, housing, and food. Oh, and pet food.
Pet food?
Most people I know will be subscribed to one streaming service and switch every few months to get the shows they want. I’m expecting most streaming services to become a lot more “user hostile” as they try to squeeze out every penny.
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Piracy my beloved🏴☠️
When I was a poor kid I pirated, went to paying as a working adult, now I am back to buying random DVDs at thirftshops but if they keep this clown thing up, I will sail. These clowns have hard time understanding who controls the money flows here, shiti video streaming service is not a monopoly/utility…
Oh my show is no longer available on my paid subscription? It’s still right here on my server.
That’s the thing that’s always bothered me about the online services. Sure, I can “buy” a movie or series or whatever, but I only have actual access to it so long as I still subscribe, the service has rights, and I have access (like, if I’m on a plane or ship, suddenly I can’t watch something).
If I download a copy, it’s mine for as long as the physical media lasts. I can keep it theoretically forever, I can put copies on my phone or the cloud, stream to my computer, my cousin’s tv, whatever.
Time to sail the seven seas again. Yarrggghh 🏴☠️
As Homer once eloquently said: “Nothing a month. We can afford that!”
It’s been a while since I last has Netflix. I found myself looking through their selection with nothing enticing me to watch. I don’t know how people keep it for years. Did you always find something you liked?
Lol yeah it wasn’t the screen sharing thing that got me. When the news about that came up I realized I hadn’t used Netflix for 6+ months. There’s just nothing good in their library anymore
lol i basically mainly only have netflix cause my roommate accepts it as payment to use his internet. Otherwise i would constantly unsub after watching a show.
I felt the same way, then got a proper vpn and boom. It’s like having Netflix for the first time all over again!!
Way back a few years ago when Netflix started going down hill, I cut back to the cheapest plan at like $8.99 - it was limited to one screen at a time, and 1080p resolution. That’s fine - my big TV is only 1080p resolution anyway so it worked.
Then they quietly raised pricing to $9.99 and I noticed my resolution had decreased to 720p. That was about two years ago. I cancelled my Netflix subscription after over 15 years as a Netflix customer (pre streaming back when it was DVD rentals only). I don’t miss it.
Already planning on cancelling other services like HBO Max next - just don’t watch enough television to justify it.
HBO Max is going the way of Netflix anyways after Discovery bought them out. Why a failed reality TV network thinks they know how to do TV better than a 30+ year old household name for quality, I’ll never know.
Yep. I guess it’s a good thing I just don’t watch much television anyway these days. There’s more to life than vegetating on a couch watching a television screen. I’d rather be tending to the garden, burning calories in the gym, socializing with friends, running my small business, etc - guess I’m just not the target customer in general for streaming platforms haha.
Just canceled mine when they enforced the no non household sharing. Now sailing with the pirates.