CNBC shared this from a Google all-hands this month: One tool to try and help with that is Google’s new Perspectives feed that’s designed to show results from humans. But now that many of the protesting subreddits have opened up, the Reddit trick isn’t as nerfed as it used to be.
That’s interesting that lemmy doesn’t generate canonicals. I would have thought that the original instance something is posted on would set the canonical, and other instances can point back to that - it really seems like this sort of problem is exactly what canonicals are made for. Does anyone know if there’s a reason for not using them (other than dev time, which is 100% a good reason)?
It’s a subscription-based search engine. From what I’ve seen, the results seem pretty good compared to everything else at this point, but IDK if I’d want to pay monthly for search (though honestly I’m seriously considering it at this point).
As someone who’s been a paid user for a few months now, it is totally worth it. It has its moments where I need to try another engine, but the vast majority of the time it’s way better. The ability to rank sites is a game changer, and as a bonus I can block Pinterest and the usual fluff from results and never see them again.
I guess what I want to learn is that if I were to type into Google “what are the best iPhone games Reddit” I would get a bunch of Reddit threads does the same thing work if I were to end the question and “lemmy”
That would be the question. You can certainly do a site search. At least duckduckgo can do that. It may not be so easy to just search lemmy, the threadiverse, or the fediverse for example. Do not know.
Probably if the instances have lemmy in their domains like mine, or lemmy.ml, lemmy.ca, or in their name (mine is “pe1uca’s lemmy” so if the domain was different maybe search engines could also work with that), but not for ones like, lemmit.online, sh.itjust.works which don’t have lemmy neither in their names nor domain.
It’d be like searching for content posted in sites which use wordpress.
Yes, with a major caveat. An instance will search only communities that at least one user on the instance is subscribed to and only as far back as the time the first user on the instance subscribed to the community.
I’d say the short answer is no and the long answer is yes.
Searching across instances is difficult, for the reason RandomBit mentioned in this thread. But you don’t go to reddit and expect your search results to include Hacker News, Twitter, etc. When you search on reddit, it also only searches the local instance, it just is that there is only one instance. So the search is exactly the same as reddit.
With that said, there is probably room for a service that provides cross-instance search by subscribing and indexing communities like a crawler, rather than relying on users to create the federation.
FediSearch I guess is similar to your idea, though I think the goal would be to make a new and open search index specifically containing fediverse websites instead of just using Google. I also feel like the formatting should be more like Lemmy, with the particular post title and short description showing instead of the generic search UI.
The idea of a fediverse search is really cool though. If things like news and academic papers ever got their own fediverse-connected service, I could see a FediSearch being a great alternative to the AI sludge of Google.
I think the different domains and levels of federation makes it less convenient. Personally, I think the Fediverse should collaborate on a shared wiki for community knowledge and whatnot.
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Oh snap, + 1 for Kagi usage, I’ll try your implementation
That’s interesting that lemmy doesn’t generate canonicals. I would have thought that the original instance something is posted on would set the canonical, and other instances can point back to that - it really seems like this sort of problem is exactly what canonicals are made for. Does anyone know if there’s a reason for not using them (other than dev time, which is 100% a good reason)?
Thank you for this. I also use Kagi so im totally gonna set the lens up.
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What’s Kagi?
It’s a subscription-based search engine. From what I’ve seen, the results seem pretty good compared to everything else at this point, but IDK if I’d want to pay monthly for search (though honestly I’m seriously considering it at this point).
As someone who’s been a paid user for a few months now, it is totally worth it. It has its moments where I need to try another engine, but the vast majority of the time it’s way better. The ability to rank sites is a game changer, and as a bonus I can block Pinterest and the usual fluff from results and never see them again.
I bet it still respects search modifiers? Both DDG and Google frequently ignore mine.
Any web search seaches Lemmy as well. Just seach for your user ID or display name to find your own content.
I guess what I want to learn is that if I were to type into Google “what are the best iPhone games Reddit” I would get a bunch of Reddit threads does the same thing work if I were to end the question and “lemmy”
That would be the question. You can certainly do a site search. At least duckduckgo can do that. It may not be so easy to just search lemmy, the threadiverse, or the fediverse for example. Do not know.
Probably if the instances have lemmy in their domains like mine, or lemmy.ml, lemmy.ca, or in their name (mine is “pe1uca’s lemmy” so if the domain was different maybe search engines could also work with that), but not for ones like, lemmit.online, sh.itjust.works which don’t have lemmy neither in their names nor domain.
It’d be like searching for content posted in sites which use wordpress.
Yes, with a major caveat. An instance will search only communities that at least one user on the instance is subscribed to and only as far back as the time the first user on the instance subscribed to the community.
I’d say the short answer is no and the long answer is yes.
Searching across instances is difficult, for the reason RandomBit mentioned in this thread. But you don’t go to reddit and expect your search results to include Hacker News, Twitter, etc. When you search on reddit, it also only searches the local instance, it just is that there is only one instance. So the search is exactly the same as reddit.
With that said, there is probably room for a service that provides cross-instance search by subscribing and indexing communities like a crawler, rather than relying on users to create the federation.
FediSearch I guess is similar to your idea, though I think the goal would be to make a new and open search index specifically containing fediverse websites instead of just using Google. I also feel like the formatting should be more like Lemmy, with the particular post title and short description showing instead of the generic search UI.
The idea of a fediverse search is really cool though. If things like news and academic papers ever got their own fediverse-connected service, I could see a FediSearch being a great alternative to the AI sludge of Google.
I think the different domains and levels of federation makes it less convenient. Personally, I think the Fediverse should collaborate on a shared wiki for community knowledge and whatnot.
Maybe using brave search or something?
Not yet, I don’t think