But if I was a paying customer i would be pretty pissed opening Spotify the first time on my 3 week travels and seeing this crap :-O Funnily there isn’t even an option to change the location as suggested. Neither in the modded app nor on spotify.com on FF mobile.
Use a different client, or the web player then. This is a settings issue and attempt of them to combat IP switches and account sharing. You’re not a paying customer, and I’ve not had this issue on a paid account before.
Honestly, Spotify kinda sucks anyway. Use something else.
That is mostly untenable for the average person. In the past a modest music budget was 1-2 albums a month plus the radio for discovery and word of mouth. That was it.
Streaming platforms give you access to practically everything that’s even remotely popular for the price of 1 album a month. If you want to consume a lot of music and especially a lot of new (to you) music, online streaming is one of your best options. And I know what sub I’m on, just addressing that you said “buy”.
As a broke mofo who has quit streaming music and have a growing cd collection yes the quantity is lacking (I’m usually able to afford a new lp a week currently have 8), but I have found that I enjoy the music more than I did before, and in the end, every album I buy is mine forever which means that I don’t have to worry about some obscure artist’s stuff being removed from streaming services (which has happened to me on more than one occasion)
For me music is a hobby and streaming services cheapen music to the point of being background noise
Well, YouTube’s music quality is basically trash but if you are happy with it don’t look for alternatives because you won’t find them. Almost anyone I know that wants a music streaming service would not stand that quality for long though.
For context, I use tidal since it’s the one one that can serve HiFi music in a native Linux client (third party).
Navidrome server streaming to Symfonium through Wireguard using music downloaded with Soulseek and suggestions generated by Listenbrainz. No, it’s not as convenient for the average user.
Understanment of the century. If you end up listing 5 different pieces of software to replace 1, then it’s going to be something for enthusiasts only.
I’m really liking Apple Music. Mainly because it’s streaming bolted on to a real music library manager, so you can do stuff like edit song metadata, 5-star song ratings (though they really want you to use the stupid favorite system that Spotify also has), playlists that let you filter your library based on rules, and even add/upload your own tracks, so anything that’s missing you can add yourself.
Though I’m not sure how the experience is if you don’t have a Mac, as the web client is hot garbage and they don’t have a native Linux client.
Never used Spotify, but I got into Apple Music after learning it supports lossless. It’s been fantastic. I have MP3s on my phone and none of them have been overwritten with clean versions or anything like that other guy said… I dunno his setup though. I keep my giant MP3/flac collection on another HDD, backed up to an external.
Apple Music broke my offline library the last two times I tried.
Replaced a lot of my explicit music with clean versions and left some of it unavailable to me. Music I had for decades that I legitimately bought on CD and ripped in iTunes was now being shown as “unavailable in your region”, even on the MacBook that I uploaded them from.
I had to wipe my library and luckily had a backup from a year before with most of it but some of it is still lost to this day.
I think most people that traditionally used iTunes didn’t keep other copies somewhere else, since it was meant to be the music manager for all music, so if it screws up their library they lose their files.
The uploading and syncing local files was (is) already a feature of iTunes Match. Apple Music just expands it to allow it for music they don’t own, however people have had it take their files and relabel them as Apple Music files and then lock them out if they cancel their subscription.
The downside is combining my local music management with their streaming service, I’d rather they were entirely separate with the option of playing local files, as Spotify does. The option to upload files would be fine.
Ahh, I see. Yeah that absolutely shouldn’t happen, at least not by default… Though I believe I’ve added an album that’s already in Apple Music once and it also kept the local files. Maybe in those cases it deleted the local files as the disk was getting full to clear up space, or something? Definitely inexcusable though :V
Spotify has radically changed it’s official clients to be full of suggestions, ads, and pointless info I don’t care about. Add in all the service restrictions, and it’s just a crappy service and user-experience. Wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.
True, thats why I use modded apps. I’ve also tried spotify downloaders but none of them have over 90% succes rate, o until then its modded apps for me.
Deezer for one. Doesn’t have quite the same amount of music, but I don’t seem to have the issue with travel considering I am literally away for half the year.
Others have mentioned other clients, but I’m going to suggest a different, less convenient route. Would you still have that problem if you routed your phone’s traffic through an exit node in your home network?
Can you explain that to an idiot like myself? I’m running TailScale right now and I have my own router in front of my ISP’s. Is there a good, simplistic guide for my setup?
I’ve tried that, but it’s broken my Pi-hole install twice. To the point of needing dev intervention. I assumed it wasn’t working for everybody until you mentioned it
I’ve never had an issue with pihole (i run them on the same device). Pivpn ibstaller typically detects pihole and juat sets it up as pivpn dns but you could also have it not do this in the installer
That’s how Spotify has been working for years. Spotify doesn’t work officially in my current whereabouts, so, in order to use it I just registered an account via vpn and now I just need to log in into spotify using vpn once in two weeks. It has been working this way a few years for me already.
Only supports the apartment you’re registered in, and only if you gave all the permissions to the goverment app, and stored your biometrics and agreed to everything just to be first in the line for the chip implant
Considering that i have a free account registered to a 10 min mail and paying customers don’t seem to have that problem… It might be some kind of protection against manipulating the charts aswell.
I love all the people here on the piracy community who are paying users of spotify. Almost like piracy isnt an issue if the alternative is more convenient. Funny that huh.
If the services are fulfilling the needs that the customers have, no piracy is needed. There are some issues, like this, but for the most part, Spotify is quite good currently.
This is your own moral and ethical understanding of piracy, but this is a forum that centers around piracy. It makes sense to start a discussion about views and what not, but it doesn’t make sense to promote paid services over piracy in that way.
Just like how a community centered around recreational drugs is going to recommend against taking drugs if it puts your life in danger, or a python community telling you to learn C if you want to do embedded programming, or a hammer community telling you to use a screwdriver on a screw.
Why don’t they? You’re saying that a piracy forum has no place for discussing anything that isn’t promoting piracy. I’m telling you that it does, because the topic of piracy includes the topic of when one should or should not pirate.
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Ya lol piracy communities famously never discuss anything that isnt piracy. Like how every music tracker forum has the vanity label category with independent musicians with bandcamp links or like https://torrentfreak.com/?s=spotify
Funny enough I just ditched Spotify premium since their apps for every platform I use are far and away the buggiest apps I’d been using regularly, including open source apps. I started using InnerTune instead to get free unlimited streaming on mobile and the funniest thing is, the app works better than Spotify. Bigger library too since it pulls music from YT. Quality probably suffers but IDK, willing to make that trade for no subscription fee
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I’m a paying customer and I’ve never had this problem.
Use a different client, or the web player then. This is a settings issue and attempt of them to combat IP switches and account sharing. You’re not a paying customer, and I’ve not had this issue on a paid account before.
Honestly, Spotify kinda sucks anyway. Use something else.
Spotify sucks? What are some good alternatives that have a similar amount of content and suggestions?
Buying your music and quitting the renting economy
That is mostly untenable for the average person. In the past a modest music budget was 1-2 albums a month plus the radio for discovery and word of mouth. That was it.
Streaming platforms give you access to practically everything that’s even remotely popular for the price of 1 album a month. If you want to consume a lot of music and especially a lot of new (to you) music, online streaming is one of your best options. And I know what sub I’m on, just addressing that you said “buy”.
As a broke mofo who has quit streaming music and have a growing cd collection yes the quantity is lacking (I’m usually able to afford a new lp a week currently have 8), but I have found that I enjoy the music more than I did before, and in the end, every album I buy is mine forever which means that I don’t have to worry about some obscure artist’s stuff being removed from streaming services (which has happened to me on more than one occasion)
For me music is a hobby and streaming services cheapen music to the point of being background noise
Or pirate your music and quit the renting economy. Soulseek, streamrip, private trackers
Like, a similarly low amount of content?
There is no way you can use Spotify and think it has a low amount of music. There are precious few things I’ve looked for it doesn’t have.
I don’t use Spotify because it has an abysmal catalog compared to something like YouTube
Well, YouTube’s music quality is basically trash but if you are happy with it don’t look for alternatives because you won’t find them. Almost anyone I know that wants a music streaming service would not stand that quality for long though.
For context, I use tidal since it’s the one one that can serve HiFi music in a native Linux client (third party).
Yeah, and there’s also no contest in terms of library
There are hundreds of thousands of albums that Spotify doesn’t have, probably the majority of my Bandcamp feed isn’t on there.
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Understanment of the century. If you end up listing 5 different pieces of software to replace 1, then it’s going to be something for enthusiasts only.
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I’m really liking Apple Music. Mainly because it’s streaming bolted on to a real music library manager, so you can do stuff like edit song metadata, 5-star song ratings (though they really want you to use the stupid favorite system that Spotify also has), playlists that let you filter your library based on rules, and even add/upload your own tracks, so anything that’s missing you can add yourself.
Though I’m not sure how the experience is if you don’t have a Mac, as the web client is hot garbage and they don’t have a native Linux client.
Never used Spotify, but I got into Apple Music after learning it supports lossless. It’s been fantastic. I have MP3s on my phone and none of them have been overwritten with clean versions or anything like that other guy said… I dunno his setup though. I keep my giant MP3/flac collection on another HDD, backed up to an external.
Apple Music broke my offline library the last two times I tried.
Replaced a lot of my explicit music with clean versions and left some of it unavailable to me. Music I had for decades that I legitimately bought on CD and ripped in iTunes was now being shown as “unavailable in your region”, even on the MacBook that I uploaded them from.
I had to wipe my library and luckily had a backup from a year before with most of it but some of it is still lost to this day.
Apple music on android is broken af
Sometimes my library crashes and it takes like 5 minutes to get to a point where i can use the app again
That’s one of the largest downsides imo. People have had their libraries converted and suddenly they don’t have their owned music anymore.
Which downside? What do you mean? Everything I’ve added to it locally is in its own folder, and it’s a copy of the original files.
I think most people that traditionally used iTunes didn’t keep other copies somewhere else, since it was meant to be the music manager for all music, so if it screws up their library they lose their files.
The uploading and syncing local files was (is) already a feature of iTunes Match. Apple Music just expands it to allow it for music they don’t own, however people have had it take their files and relabel them as Apple Music files and then lock them out if they cancel their subscription.
The downside is combining my local music management with their streaming service, I’d rather they were entirely separate with the option of playing local files, as Spotify does. The option to upload files would be fine.
Ahh, I see. Yeah that absolutely shouldn’t happen, at least not by default… Though I believe I’ve added an album that’s already in Apple Music once and it also kept the local files. Maybe in those cases it deleted the local files as the disk was getting full to clear up space, or something? Definitely inexcusable though :V
Deezer
Spotify has radically changed it’s official clients to be full of suggestions, ads, and pointless info I don’t care about. Add in all the service restrictions, and it’s just a crappy service and user-experience. Wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.
True, thats why I use modded apps. I’ve also tried spotify downloaders but none of them have over 90% succes rate, o until then its modded apps for me.
Did you try zotify?
I haven’t. I’ll check it out.
Do you get ads is you pay for it?
Also: there’s unofficial clients? Does it use it’s algorithms or library?
You get podcasts shoved down your throat that’s for sure.
Not interrupting ads like in the free version. They sure do like to push ‘suggestions’ when you open the app though
Deezer for one. Doesn’t have quite the same amount of music, but I don’t seem to have the issue with travel considering I am literally away for half the year.
Many others though.
https://www.lifewire.com/best-alternatives-to-spotify-5217870
Agreed that Spotify kinda sucks. That is why i am using it the first time towards the end of a 3W trip :-D
With the modded apk and a 10min mail account it is worth the storage on my phone.
Yeah, there are modded clients out there that remove the crap, and dozens of other unofficial clients as well. You have options.
Others have mentioned other clients, but I’m going to suggest a different, less convenient route. Would you still have that problem if you routed your phone’s traffic through an exit node in your home network?
Tailscale ftwwwww
Why add the third party? Just run an instance of wireguard on your home network and call it a day.
Because that’s physically impossible for tons of people. CGNATs are very common.
Well nothing is impossible, but it does complicate things very much. Certainly outside “just run a container and call it a day” territory.
Because Tailscale uses Wireguard, but doesn’t rely on my inept ass to know what I’m doing.
Fair, lol.
Can you explain that to an idiot like myself? I’m running TailScale right now and I have my own router in front of my ISP’s. Is there a good, simplistic guide for my setup?
The easiest way is with pivpn
https://www.pivpn.io/
I’ve tried that, but it’s broken my Pi-hole install twice. To the point of needing dev intervention. I assumed it wasn’t working for everybody until you mentioned it
I’ve never had an issue with pihole (i run them on the same device). Pivpn ibstaller typically detects pihole and juat sets it up as pivpn dns but you could also have it not do this in the installer
Yeah, I have no clue where it went wrong and I’m not exactly technical enough to diagnose it
I installed mine on OPNsense. I used the OPNsense documentation: https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/how-tos/wireguard-client.html. Here is another guide: https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/road-warrior-vpn-wireguard-opnsense/. And yet another if you want to set it up in docker: https://linuxiac.com/how-to-set-up-wireguard-vpn-with-docker/. However, the firewall rules can get a bit messy.
Thank you, I’ll give it a go
Nope. This was the reason I gave up on premium; my means of payment was registered in my old country and I wasn’t allowed to change it.
I’ve never had this come up and travel abroad a fair bit. Though now that I think about it I always use it through a VPN set to my home country lol
https://github.com/Team-xManager/xManager/releases
TIDAL is crear toó.
What is this app?
Never heard of it. Thank you. Is that the app like cracked?
Its a Mánager you hace many apks spotify cracked, and one that let’s you save songs that isn’t Spotify ,it is Tidal.
I didn’t know about this apk. Gonna check this out thanks for putting it on my radar
works pretty well - except on longer travels ;)
That’s how Spotify has been working for years. Spotify doesn’t work officially in my current whereabouts, so, in order to use it I just registered an account via vpn and now I just need to log in into spotify using vpn once in two weeks. It has been working this way a few years for me already.
They banned m’y connected speaker because I was using a shared account. Yeahaaa.
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What was the point of this post? 🙄
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t mind piracy and fuck Spotify, but come on…
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just buy music from artists on Bandcamp this thing is stupid
No, i won’t, i don’t recommend you
And also bandcamp is not really good for privacy too
Only supports the apartment you’re registered in, and only if you gave all the permissions to the goverment app, and stored your biometrics and agreed to everything just to be first in the line for the chip implant
I created my account in Spain around 2009, moved to Canada in 2014 and came back to Spain late last year. Never had a problem with this :-?
I’m a paying customer and I don’t have this problem.
Considering that i have a free account registered to a 10 min mail and paying customers don’t seem to have that problem… It might be some kind of protection against manipulating the charts aswell.
You’re also using a modified client. Hmm…
I love all the people here on the piracy community who are paying users of spotify. Almost like piracy isnt an issue if the alternative is more convenient. Funny that huh.
yeah to talk about the best spotify premium at Gratis i think they are really good
Streaming service companies take note
No greedy executives want to squeeze out eveey last penny.
You missed a comma
Wouldn’t want you to look like you were defending greedy executives
Yep always fucking myself on the details
Streaming service company later: Scratch that…
They were already trying to ruin it with Tidal exclusive albums
Its insane to promote paying services over pirating like this in a piracy forum. Kids what went wrong? Why are you like this?
Why do I get the feeling you might be younger than the average age here? Maybe missing an /s?
If the services are fulfilling the needs that the customers have, no piracy is needed. There are some issues, like this, but for the most part, Spotify is quite good currently.
This is your own moral and ethical understanding of piracy, but this is a forum that centers around piracy. It makes sense to start a discussion about views and what not, but it doesn’t make sense to promote paid services over piracy in that way.
So you refuse to pay for a service no matter what?
No
OP clearly states in the post they are using a modified APK to get premium access without paying
Just like how a community centered around recreational drugs is going to recommend against taking drugs if it puts your life in danger, or a python community telling you to learn C if you want to do embedded programming, or a hammer community telling you to use a screwdriver on a screw.
You can see yourself that those examples don’t align very well with streaming music right?
Why don’t they? You’re saying that a piracy forum has no place for discussing anything that isn’t promoting piracy. I’m telling you that it does, because the topic of piracy includes the topic of when one should or should not pirate.
@howrar
@loudWaterEnjoyer
Ya lol piracy communities famously never discuss anything that isnt piracy. Like how every music tracker forum has the vanity label category with independent musicians with bandcamp links or like
https://torrentfreak.com/?s=spotify
Those are some of the randomest and funnyest examples lol. And they make sence bravo
Funny enough I just ditched Spotify premium since their apps for every platform I use are far and away the buggiest apps I’d been using regularly, including open source apps. I started using InnerTune instead to get free unlimited streaming on mobile and the funniest thing is, the app works better than Spotify. Bigger library too since it pulls music from YT. Quality probably suffers but IDK, willing to make that trade for no subscription fee