Abuse. I don’t agreewithfree speach in all things. I doupt anyone does. I don’t want to see constant (to the point of only) ads for vbucks. I don’t want threats to my person. There are a few other things like that, that I think we all agree on., I then have a personal list of things like porn or swearing that iidon’t want to see but some of you do. Where to draw theelineethus isn’t clear but there is one.
I oppose most censorship, but I do not oppose moderation. If you don’t want to see certain people speaking freely, you shouldn’t have to, but you shouldn’t be allowed to keep them from speaking freely to each other.
Are we though? Every other day you have someone asking to defederate or block instances. In a way everyone is free to talk, but there’s still people controlling who listens to what.
You are always free to host your own lemmy instance. Then you can choose to federate with whoever you want.
If I hosted an instance, I wouldn’t want to host hate speech or weird porn, and it would also be my right to not do so.
I also wouldn’t want to bother moderating a lemmy instance for people I didn’t know, and having to hear their demands for what they want to see/not see. That’s just me, personally and I’m glad there are people out there doing the work for me.
What I’m saying is, if you’re going to interact with a platform with possibly millions of users there’s going to be ground rules, and those take time to agree on. Lemmy is unique in that you can move to an instance that fits you better. I don’t think social media should be monetized, but we can’t ignore they take time and money to run. You have to compromise on somethings sometimes.
I agree with you. That was my point, there are always compromises if a group of people is involved. In opposition to the comment implying that Lemmy is absolutely free of control. It’s just a different form of control.
Hmm, I’m not sure how your opinion differs from /u/eleitl@lemmy.ml then, that’s more or less what they were saying, no? They never stated they thought lemmy was completely free from control, the contrary in fact: community effort
Those kinds of subs were the best. I liked when they weren’t too big, but just big enough to have a steady feed of topics. It felt like a tight knit club
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !technology@beehaw.org
A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.
Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.
Remember when reddit was a free speech platform where pretty much everything legal was ok except doxing?
What went wrong that we can’t have places like that on the Internet anymore?
Abuse. I don’t agreewithfree speach in all things. I doupt anyone does. I don’t want to see constant (to the point of only) ads for vbucks. I don’t want threats to my person. There are a few other things like that, that I think we all agree on., I then have a personal list of things like porn or swearing that iidon’t want to see but some of you do. Where to draw theelineethus isn’t clear but there is one.
I think the line is easy to draw: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/moderation-is-different-from-censorship
I oppose most censorship, but I do not oppose moderation. If you don’t want to see certain people speaking freely, you shouldn’t have to, but you shouldn’t be allowed to keep them from speaking freely to each other.
We’re kinda using it right now. Strange how all the good things that persist are community efforts, huh? Makes you really think.
Are we though? Every other day you have someone asking to defederate or block instances. In a way everyone is free to talk, but there’s still people controlling who listens to what.
You can run your own instance or join a permissive instance.
You are always free to host your own lemmy instance. Then you can choose to federate with whoever you want.
If I hosted an instance, I wouldn’t want to host hate speech or weird porn, and it would also be my right to not do so.
I also wouldn’t want to bother moderating a lemmy instance for people I didn’t know, and having to hear their demands for what they want to see/not see. That’s just me, personally and I’m glad there are people out there doing the work for me.
What I’m saying is, if you’re going to interact with a platform with possibly millions of users there’s going to be ground rules, and those take time to agree on. Lemmy is unique in that you can move to an instance that fits you better. I don’t think social media should be monetized, but we can’t ignore they take time and money to run. You have to compromise on somethings sometimes.
Or you can just run your own.
I agree with you. That was my point, there are always compromises if a group of people is involved. In opposition to the comment implying that Lemmy is absolutely free of control. It’s just a different form of control.
Hmm, I’m not sure how your opinion differs from /u/eleitl@lemmy.ml then, that’s more or less what they were saying, no? They never stated they thought lemmy was completely free from control, the contrary in fact: community effort
Places like r/jailbait and r/fatpeoplehate existed under the guise of free speech.
Man, sometimes I forget how awful that site could actually be. I just miss the crafting subreddits.
Those kinds of subs were the best. I liked when they weren’t too big, but just big enough to have a steady feed of topics. It felt like a tight knit club
Money. Greed. Enshittification. Capitalism.