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And that is why I self-host as much as I can
What’s a good self hosted thinking like Evernote?
For note taking, you might even get by without self-hosting, looking at software like Obsidian which works perfectly fine with just SyncThing to sync between devices, or just literally any other file syncing solution, self-hosted or otherwise.
Trilium is great as well
What platform? Windows? Unix? Linux?
I gave my resume to Bending Spoons and they didn’t hire me, so fuck them And fuck them for the layoffs, they have people working from home so relocating seems like an excuse
I switched to Joplin a few years ago from Evernote and haven’t looked back. Take control of your own notes - Joplin is open source and has clients for every platform, and imports notebooks from Evernote.
Or Obsidian? Take actual control over them including rendering if you want to customize that.
Maybe it’s a different use case 🤔
Obsidian is closed source, so once the company dies, no one can modify the app. Joplin on the other hand is open source.
The app may be closed-source, but the data is all markdown, which should be easy to move to other apps.
At some point I realized that the solution to this little problem is Emacs org-mode. It’s just sitting there waiting for people to use it.
I’m a l former emacs user of ~10 years and I could never get used to org mode, so it’s definitely not for “normal” people.
Additionally, in modern times being emacs bound means no decent mobile client, no web interface, and mandatory roll-your-own sync and backup.
There’s a few friends I know who swear by org mode up and down, but it’s a considerable effort for most people to use it.
Haven’t tried Obsidian, but have heard good things about it. I have about 12,000 notes and continue to be impressed with Joplin’s ability to handle that with no issues.
Obsidians really good with lots of notes and linking them together as well as adding metadata to them.
It really depends on your use case. The plug-in ecosystem is also quite rich.
Another example of why federated services are good idea. Also, all such services must be willing to hand over all your data. Which implies open standards and open sourced implementations.
I forgot Evernote was still a thing. Used it for a short while back in 2012 when there were not many decent note taking apps.
Same. Glad I never actually relied on it…
Ever since I discovered LogSeq and Obsidian, I stopped checking out other note-taking software
God I love Obsidian. Especially the community around it.
Obsidian honestly spoiled me with the fact that my vault is literally just a folder of markdown files.
I’ve been using Zim, because I wanted something that was completely brain-dead simple and also completely not in any sort of “cloud.” It’s entirely local to my hard drive. It stores its files as a folder of markdown files too.
How non-cloudy is Obsidian? I might take a look at that.
It’s completely local unless you specifically opt into cloud options. There is Obsidian Sync but that’s completely optional, and your files are still on the computer. I know some people make their vaults Google Drive folders, which, again, is something you have to deliberately do.
100% non-cloud. There are sync options but they are completely optional. No log-in required unless you use the cloud features.
I’ve been using Logseq at work and I LOOOOVE it.
Same! I’ve become like a walking advertisement for LogSeq at work. Its great
I never heard of it until now. I’m a veteran of trying out and dumping so many note taking solutions. I’m certain to try this one, too! Maybe I’ll finally find The One.
It’s a timeline approach. So, I just enter notes for each day. I’ve developed a habit of just putting things down when I need, including random stuff, links to Slack conversations, etc. I then use tags to bind things together, and there are a couple of plugins in use.
I installed it and took a quick look. It reminds me of Obsidian’s approach. I got excited about that, too, but I found it very burdensome to use in practice. What I need is a sort of life log that grabs a lot of stuff quietly from integrations and that I can then further augment (for things like meeting notes). The problem with all of these graph approaches (for me) is that they become burdensome to manage.
I can search and read about LogSeq, but I can’t find anything about Obsidian. Can you please help me out? Thanks.
Obsidian.md, you need to import some community plugins to make it better (e.g. Advanced Tables, Multi Column, etc). But it’s quite fast and powerful, it doesn’t look as pretty as, say Notion, though. I love using it, you can search on youtube for some samples / tutorials, it’s quite easy to use though.
So like LogSeq, Obsidian is a free note taking application which stores notes in Markdown format locally on your PC. Unlike LogSeq however, it is not open source and is designed more for long form text (LogSeq is more bullet points).
You can check out Obsidian here
I highly recommend checking out the Obsidian Discord server and Eleanor Konik’s Obsidian Roundup. The community around Obsidian is insane and they’re so dedicated.
After leaving Evernote way back when I was in the wilderness for a while. Finally landed on notesnook, haven’t gone back since.
On one hand, this is understandable. My employer recently went through similar learnings and dealt with this equally.
But if the whole know-how of the code and platform needs to be shifted over, this is an awful lot of risk and problems. Maybe they already did the transition. Who knows.
I don’t think they intend to shutdown the service, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the service gets more and more unstable, progresses slower than before and thereby slowly dies off with the competitors speeding ahead.
Don’t understand how they made it this long.
Venture capital spurred by effectively negative interest rates.
Free money.
I mean… haven’t they been surviving purely on inertia for a while already?
How are they going to funnel all that user data to the CCP if they close down. Having access to secure notes and passwords directly from people sounds like a goldmine
Wait, didn’t they close like years ago? I definitely remember reading something about it way before covid. Is it some kind of Mandela effect or was there something?