Mozilla has announced that they are officially closing down their Fediverse social instance, to focus on their other efforts.
@Midnitte@beehaw.org
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To the surprise of no one - Mozilla should have just made accounts on some server and promised support for said server

@Steve@communick.news
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Hard disagree.
Running your own social media server for official accounts, so you’re not beholden to the whims of other providers, is kind of an obvious thing to do for online organizations.

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I wish more news organizations would do this. Make the instance only for the employees and have the public follow them through public instances.

It solves the following issues

  • Social media independence
  • Validate account authenticity through the instance domain name
  • Ability for followers migration between instances (leave, join, change news organization)
@Midnitte@beehaw.org
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I definitely agree on news organizations doing this (and even government departments), but the problem with Mozilla doing it is they were running a server any of us could join - if they don’t have the resources to run it for themselves, they definitely shouldn’t be doing it for others to join.

The whole Fediverse is still a little on the niche side, but if growth continues, I think this is exactly another development. When you work for Company X, your work email is usually somebody@companyx.com, likewise I would expect official Fediverse presences.

Where it will probably take off though is when somebody starts selling corporations a turn-key solution. Kind of how products like Outlook took over corporate email.

@Kichae@lemmy.ca
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This. One of the points of this whole endeavour is self-hosting, in the name of resisting centralization.

Imagine if Mozilla had hostes its website on Geocities.

@Midnitte@beehaw.org
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Isn’t that exactly why you pick up your account and move servers?

Again, they were also running a server we could join - I don’t know why they thought they had the resources to handle that.

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We’re not talking about individual people, but whole corporations and organizations.

For example. Instance.social is shutting down. Now the whole Org needs to migrate 150 accounts to someplace else. Oh and the old posts are being deleted, can’t migrate those.

And the support community you created on there, is going away also. Again, can’t really migrate all the old posts and comments. But the FAQ documentation we put there when people asked about it, can be manually copied to the new place. So that’s something

That’s not a situation any company would want to be in. Better to have their own social home, that they control.

Different CEOs will have different visions. The old CEO believed more in the value of social and the new one is more pragmatic and wants to focus on deliverable things with tangible returns like Firefox. It’s sad though as I think killing Mozilla.social is a mistake and a short-sighted decision.

Both CEOs are horrible but the new one is a former McKinsey consultant with a background in finance and the silicon-valley C-suite. According to statements she put out her strategy is: layoffs and AI.

how much of the budget can a mastodon instance even take? like yeah sure don’t invest more into it but surely they could just leave it as a place for official fediverse accounts for their various projects?

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Infrastructure for a 300 MAU Mastodon instance isn’t very much, but if they’re paying employees to run it then that will drive expenses up quite a bit compared to how it is with volunteer-run instances.

Less than €100 a month

Social media people only get paid €100 a month? I doubt that.

I was talking about the server costs. For less than 300 users, the cost isn’t exorbitant.

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That’s a shame to see. Fediverse denizens are like the primary demographic that would consider using Firefox in the first place, so them hosting an instance was pretty cool.

this is not how to achieve independence.

Someone got pissy the ai stuff got backlash

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