Even decades later, that phrase never fails to make me laugh.
For anyone who doesn’t know it, former Prime Minister John Chretien is from Shawinigan (note spelling). One day, an angry man made it past his security detail and started shouting at the prime minister. Chretien grabbed the man by the throat until his security officers could hustle him away, and ever since then the move has been known as the Shawinigan handshake.
Yesterday I heard the someone say that Trump tariffs will make Canada great again by somehow improving government efficiency. The individual was the stereotypical person that thinks any and all types of taxes is killing Canada these days but turns out if another nation taxes us then it’s good shit.
Anyways as the polls go Trudeau has the power to implement PR which could hold back Pierre garbage politics but he isn’t exactly for helping Canadians either.
I would consider Pierre if he actually shut the hell up about Trudeau, and actually talked about how he’s going to help Canada. Looking at his YouTube it’s nothing but attacks…this thing cannot be trusted imo…he has nothing he wants to do for Canada, but remove the current leader and that in itself should scare people more then the current lazy as balls government.
I wouldn’t vote for Pierre if he said he’d implement voting reform which is the only thing I’m looking for in the next election.
I really don’t understand how people can look at Canadian politics in the last half a century and want to bounce between these parties that has taken turns seeing how bad they can be before people vote them out.
Because for some unbelievably stupid reason Bob Rae’s single term as Ontario’s premier, from 1990 to 1995, burnt Canada on ever having a federal NDP gov’t.
I mean the venom with which people discuss his one and only term would make you think that Rae was the absolutely worst thing to ever have happened and we could never, ever EVER take a chance on the NDP again.
In an alternate universe, one can imagine there’s a Tory leader who’s spoken of the same way and has made them unpalatable.
Harper’s mine but that’s when I actually could vote so I’m biased. Maybe Diefenbaker? Know some people who romanticise the avro arrow who dislike him for canning it and blame it for brain drain.
consider Pierre if he actually shut the hell up about Trudeau
The conservatives only have bitching as their strategy; because their plan is horrific for people and really great for their friends’ corporations. If that seems familar, that’s America Light.
If you like healthcare and unemployment and daycare assistance and food inspectors and people investigating corruption, you’re not their target demographic. Don’t be lulled into thinking you can pay less taxes AND STILL have safe roads and bridges and food and streets.
Don’t be lulled into thinking you can pay less taxes AND STILL have safe roads and bridges and food and streets.
I’m for sure not, I’m actually super annoyed that we are even doing no tax right on select whatever right now …I’d rather just see the tax cost bundled into the cost of goods instead.
Like Musk, a lot of those videos are straight up stolen too. He stole and verbatim reposted a video I uploaded on YouTube once. Was a big reason I deleted that channel, that any apparent sense of irony could just be stripped so easily. (No he did not give credit, not that it was OC, it was a clip from TV I captured myself).
The thing that bothers me the most about him is that the election is seemingly in the bag yet he still has to lean into the USA Republican culture wars. Buddy, going after Trans people and the like isn’t going to win you any votes you don’t already have, what is the PURPOSE for bringing up this nonsense. Just annoys and disgusts me to the core.
Singh can’t win. He’s got no chance. Without ranked-choice, it’s a binary decision.
And, as always, vote for a party with the chance of bringing home better plan than the party with a chance of bringing home a worse plan. That means it’s another red vote, lest we lose a VERY narrow margin and end up hosting our hillbilly idiocracy and the greasy milhouse pulling the strings.
NDP has been the official opposition in the past. They have been getting enough seats to be part of a coalition government which has been great for the country.
More minority governments until we get electoral reform!
Singh can’t win. Trudeau can’t win. They’ve both got no chance. Federal politics in Canada has collapsed. People no longer understand or care about the issues. Politicians no longer understand or care about the people. The Conservatives will have their way with the country for a while.
Really no reason to even think about voting for Liberals now that the whole strategic voting thing isn’t even plausible thing with the current polling.
Strategic voting is still totally a plausible thing in my riding. Conservatives are consistently at 40% or so voter count, so I either vote for the liberal candidate that has been able to beat the cons by 1%, or I split the vote and hand the cons another riding.
The problem with strategic voting is that it has always been “NDP supporters should vote Liberal to help them win” and never “Liberal voters should vote NDP to help them win”.
I’m done supporting the Liberals when all their leadership does is cater to big money corporations and red Tories while begging for the support of the left to stop the “real” conservatives.
Not giving the cons a federal government is the better of the long term strategies. We know the Conservatives want to emulate what’s going on south of the border, and since I want to keep funding public services I’m going to swallow my pride and vote accordingly. Yes, an NDP win would be welcome, but I’ll settle for a PC loss.
Ehhh, it probably wouldn’t actually inspire change, but it would be nice if the Liberals came in a very distant last in every riding they didn’t have a chance at winning.
We’re barely emerging from the economic stress from surviving the pandemic without a massive recession, and busy ensuring women have legal control over themselves and similar stuff so embarrassingly basic that a new vote infrastructure seems a lifetime away.
Singh has been instrumental in pushing the launch of a dental plan, and as Justin’s conscience he’ll get us vision too. Pity they can’t get the confirmed numbers to win but I’d love to see them take the #2 spot.
a) The numbers may change between now and the election,
b) even if the conservatives win, there’s a chance to keep it from being a majority government,
c) voting for a candidate in my riding that has zero chance to win will not make a chance, whereas by voting Lib I support a candidate that is more aligned with my views than the conservatives, and
d) despite what you seem to be advocating with your rhetoric, I won’t give in to defeatism.
A & B - I’m talking about the current circumstances and how as a progressive there’s never been a better chance in recent times to vote NDP if you don’t want “waste” a vote. There can be a 20 extra seat swing coming purely from the Conservatives to the Liberals and they still have majority by 34 seats.
C & D - I don’t understand how voting for someone that lied about something as big as Voting reform is suppose to inspire optimism. The Liberals is just better than the Conservatives, they’ve never been been a good party. Even if the Liberals won the next election most Canadian will still be worse off just not as bad.
This whole I’m not the bad guy therefore I’m the good guy rhetoric is deplorable.
You could always split the conservative vote instead by voting for one of those crazy people parties that end up on the ballot but you’ve never heard of before election day
No, I could not split the conservative vote because I wouldn’t vote conservative in the first place. In my riding I have one choice and one choice only, and that’s to vote for the non-conservative candidate most likely to win, which happens to be liberal. Voting any other way is just throwing away my vote, which is a vote for the conservatives.
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What’s going on? Why are they fighting and who’s/what’s PP?
P.P. are the dumb fuck’s intials. (Pierre pollieve, opposition leader here in Canada)
Trump and Trudeau are fighting because trump is a dumb cunt.
Edit: added context and I don’t care to spell PP’s name right
Yeah but trump looks way too young, fit, and thin in this.
Fit? Did you see his stomach?
Yeah it’s like 3 sizes too small!
AND TRUDEAU GOES FOR THE SHAWNINIGAN HANDSHAKE
Even decades later, that phrase never fails to make me laugh.
For anyone who doesn’t know it, former Prime Minister John Chretien is from Shawinigan (note spelling). One day, an angry man made it past his security detail and started shouting at the prime minister. Chretien grabbed the man by the throat until his security officers could hustle him away, and ever since then the move has been known as the Shawinigan handshake.
i was hoping more people would get it, but it seems we are the the outliers in age on this platform.
This is giving me Punch Out vibes. Little Mac vs King Hippo.
Now trudie’s kicks will do fire damage.
As an American, and a veteran, can I just say how disappointed I am in our “champion”?
As a Canadian, I would also like to say how disappointed we are in your “champion”.
Not helping, dude!
Sorry
Just some random political commentary of my own:
Yesterday I heard the someone say that Trump tariffs will make Canada great again by somehow improving government efficiency. The individual was the stereotypical person that thinks any and all types of taxes is killing Canada these days but turns out if another nation taxes us then it’s good shit.
Anyways as the polls go Trudeau has the power to implement PR which could hold back Pierre garbage politics but he isn’t exactly for helping Canadians either.
I would consider Pierre if he actually shut the hell up about Trudeau, and actually talked about how he’s going to help Canada. Looking at his YouTube it’s nothing but attacks…this thing cannot be trusted imo…he has nothing he wants to do for Canada, but remove the current leader and that in itself should scare people more then the current lazy as balls government.
I wouldn’t vote for Pierre if he said he’d implement voting reform which is the only thing I’m looking for in the next election.
I really don’t understand how people can look at Canadian politics in the last half a century and want to bounce between these parties that has taken turns seeing how bad they can be before people vote them out.
Because for some unbelievably stupid reason Bob Rae’s single term as Ontario’s premier, from 1990 to 1995, burnt Canada on ever having a federal NDP gov’t.
I mean the venom with which people discuss his one and only term would make you think that Rae was the absolutely worst thing to ever have happened and we could never, ever EVER take a chance on the NDP again.
In an alternate universe, one can imagine there’s a Tory leader who’s spoken of the same way and has made them unpalatable.
Harper’s mine but that’s when I actually could vote so I’m biased. Maybe Diefenbaker? Know some people who romanticise the avro arrow who dislike him for canning it and blame it for brain drain.
In an alternate universe Jack Layton would have been with us long enough to form an NDP government.
@CileTheSane @morbidcactus he would have been terrific PM.
The conservatives only have bitching as their strategy; because their plan is horrific for people and really great for their friends’ corporations. If that seems familar, that’s America Light.
If you like healthcare and unemployment and daycare assistance and food inspectors and people investigating corruption, you’re not their target demographic. Don’t be lulled into thinking you can pay less taxes AND STILL have safe roads and bridges and food and streets.
I’m for sure not, I’m actually super annoyed that we are even doing no tax right on select whatever right now …I’d rather just see the tax cost bundled into the cost of goods instead.
Like Musk, a lot of those videos are straight up stolen too. He stole and verbatim reposted a video I uploaded on YouTube once. Was a big reason I deleted that channel, that any apparent sense of irony could just be stripped so easily. (No he did not give credit, not that it was OC, it was a clip from TV I captured myself).
The thing that bothers me the most about him is that the election is seemingly in the bag yet he still has to lean into the USA Republican culture wars. Buddy, going after Trans people and the like isn’t going to win you any votes you don’t already have, what is the PURPOSE for bringing up this nonsense. Just annoys and disgusts me to the core.
Yes, but let’s get Singh instead of Trudeau this oct.
Singh can’t win. He’s got no chance. Without ranked-choice, it’s a binary decision.
And, as always, vote for a party with the chance of bringing home better plan than the party with a chance of bringing home a worse plan. That means it’s another red vote, lest we lose a VERY narrow margin and end up hosting our hillbilly idiocracy and the greasy milhouse pulling the strings.
NDP has been the official opposition in the past. They have been getting enough seats to be part of a coalition government which has been great for the country.
More minority governments until we get electoral reform!
Singh can’t win. Trudeau can’t win. They’ve both got no chance. Federal politics in Canada has collapsed. People no longer understand or care about the issues. Politicians no longer understand or care about the people. The Conservatives will have their way with the country for a while.
Hate to agree with you but there is basically one hundred percent chance the conservatives win a majority next election
If Jack Layton was running the NDP right now they could win but not with a clown like Singh
Really no reason to even think about voting for Liberals now that the whole strategic voting thing isn’t even plausible thing with the current polling.
Strategic voting is still totally a plausible thing in my riding. Conservatives are consistently at 40% or so voter count, so I either vote for the liberal candidate that has been able to beat the cons by 1%, or I split the vote and hand the cons another riding.
The problem with strategic voting is that it has always been “NDP supporters should vote Liberal to help them win” and never “Liberal voters should vote NDP to help them win”.
I’m done supporting the Liberals when all their leadership does is cater to big money corporations and red Tories while begging for the support of the left to stop the “real” conservatives.
What does that change in the grand scheme of things.
In itself is strategic voting only about one election one riding at a time what about the nation and the future beyond 4 years?
Not giving the cons a federal government is the better of the long term strategies. We know the Conservatives want to emulate what’s going on south of the border, and since I want to keep funding public services I’m going to swallow my pride and vote accordingly. Yes, an NDP win would be welcome, but I’ll settle for a PC loss.
And I fucking hate it. I am in a solid blue riding, so it really doesn’t matter who I vote for, I really wanted electoral reform like he promised.
Ehhh, it probably wouldn’t actually inspire change, but it would be nice if the Liberals came in a very distant last in every riding they didn’t have a chance at winning.
Just say you are a conservative.
… before the PANDEMIC changed priorities.
We’re barely emerging from the economic stress from surviving the pandemic without a massive recession, and busy ensuring women have legal control over themselves and similar stuff so embarrassingly basic that a new vote infrastructure seems a lifetime away.
Singh has been instrumental in pushing the launch of a dental plan, and as Justin’s conscience he’ll get us vision too. Pity they can’t get the confirmed numbers to win but I’d love to see them take the #2 spot.
I recall the electoral reform promise was renegged shortly after his election in 2015
Can you elaborate how you voting for the Liberals instead of NDP or really anyone else is going to impact this mathematically:
Because
a) The numbers may change between now and the election, b) even if the conservatives win, there’s a chance to keep it from being a majority government, c) voting for a candidate in my riding that has zero chance to win will not make a chance, whereas by voting Lib I support a candidate that is more aligned with my views than the conservatives, and d) despite what you seem to be advocating with your rhetoric, I won’t give in to defeatism.
A & B - I’m talking about the current circumstances and how as a progressive there’s never been a better chance in recent times to vote NDP if you don’t want “waste” a vote. There can be a 20 extra seat swing coming purely from the Conservatives to the Liberals and they still have majority by 34 seats.
C & D - I don’t understand how voting for someone that lied about something as big as Voting reform is suppose to inspire optimism. The Liberals is just better than the Conservatives, they’ve never been been a good party. Even if the Liberals won the next election most Canadian will still be worse off just not as bad.
This whole I’m not the bad guy therefore I’m the good guy rhetoric is deplorable.
You could always split the conservative vote instead by voting for one of those crazy people parties that end up on the ballot but you’ve never heard of before election day
No, I could not split the conservative vote because I wouldn’t vote conservative in the first place. In my riding I have one choice and one choice only, and that’s to vote for the non-conservative candidate most likely to win, which happens to be liberal. Voting any other way is just throwing away my vote, which is a vote for the conservatives.
You could not, would not, split the vote?
Would you split it, in a boat?
Conservatives don’t split the vote.
Fascinating to see that some people still seem to believe that Trudeau would put up a fight for anything!
Idk, he can bob and weave with the best of them. Like that time he dodged the blackface by apologizing for his privilege, and it worked.
As someone who is the same height/ weight as Trump, cartoons like this are going a long way convincing me to try a lot harder to lose weight
At a minimum, wear clothes that fit you better than he does. All that money and power can’t give a man class, nor a sense of style.