If Todd Howard’s hyping of Oblivion, Fallout3, Fallout4, and Skyrim have taught me anything - the game will come nowhere to delivering anything promised - will be massively buggy - and I’ll easily sink 100s of hours into the game not caring in the least bit and having a blast the entire time. Purchasing it again and again on every platform as the years pass. Though with gamepass I suppose I don’t have to worry about purchasing it anymore.
While Morrowind was my entry into the series in 2002/2003 - I had never heard of it until my head chef at the time told me I needed to purchase it. His hype delivered. But I have no clue what the hype of Morrowind pre-release was like or what was promised vs delivered. But I imagine it was quite similar.
Without actually remembering anything too well, I do believe marketing around Morrowind was mostly graphics related. It was Beth’ switching to full on 3D and Morrowind was pretty advanced in that regard.
I mean, the screenshots in the magazins sold themselves to anyone with the mind for fantasy. Hell, it’s still the most beautiful and alien world to come out of Bethesda to date.
Only thing I remember pre Morrowind was advertising on graphics cards. My friends only knew about the game because I found the strategy guide at work (electronics boutique) before it came out and I wouldn’t stop talking about it.
I don’t think Todd Howard had his leather jacket at the time, so he wasn’t all over the place with promises.
Been enjoying it! I think the only trouble I have is the single USB-C port, so if I want to have it hooked up to power AND access my USB-C SSD, I have to either hook up a dock or a 3-in-1 plug.
Only complaint is that it IS super heavy. Hard to hold for long term sessions.
Yeah, this seems to be using the Xbox play anywhere system. So people who have a PC and an Xbox have thier saves synced. I’m sure it will not work steam.
Oh it does? So you need two copies of the game, but cross save works on steam? That’s actually kinda useful for folks with steam libraries and game pass.
I still won’t buy stuff there, but this is a far better way to make a storefront interesting than Epic. Instead of locking everything behind exclusive deals to try to force people to use your platform, they’re adding actual meaningful benefits to using their storefront. Cross ownership is nice. Game pass is nice. That’s how you provide competition.
Nothing about Lemmy would suggest people would like Epic anymore than any other place on the internet. Their exclusivity deals have the potential to upset anybody regardless of what website they post on, so while there’s absolutely a degree of hivemind hatred, it’s rooted in understandable reasons.
That being said, it’s disingenuous of that person to imply that Epic never gives any good reasons to use the platform, the biggest being the waves of free games they put on “sale” from time to time, though you could go down another rabbit hole of whether thats really something that would make gamers want to use the platform, or if it’s just a nice bonus people pop in to claim while still spending their money on Steam when it comes to actual purchases.
I wasn’t being completely serious about leaving for lemmy for that one particular reason. However, one of the biggest problem I found with gaming spaces on “that site” was a variety of dumb circlejerks and tribalism, which is something I was hoping this site would be free of due to a perceived level of maturity. This includes “le epic sucks” discourse.
Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean it’s automatically a circle jerk. People do have valid reasons for not choosing to spend money on the epic platform.
It’s hard to outrun that kind of human interaction anywhere that there are enough users and the anonymity of usernames, I do think it’s not as bad on the Fediverse still, I hope it stays that way
pcgamesn is scraping the bottom of the barrel, they literally just find ways to say something with starfield in the title. This has been a thing since at least 2016 when FH3 came out.
It’s a cool feature, always worth some mention, but baffling that they feel the need to generate a whole article out of this.
Yup. It’s also worth noting that it’ll prevent you from playing it on Linux because you can’t run most Microsoft Store apps via wine or proton. Have to buy on Steam for that, but then you lose xbox.
Kinda sucks if you’re a Linux user AND have an Xbox lying around.
I did use it for a while and discovered some games I loved, but I have periods where I don’t do as much gaming and at that point it’ll take more months to finish a game than ((cost of game) / (cost of game pass)) so lately I prefer buying again.
Now it’s been long enough since I last used game pass, I should be able to do the xbl gold to gamepass upgrade trick if it’s still a thing of course.
It’s about to not be a thing. They are removing XBLG, and changing it to be “Gamepass Core” so the new 4 tiers of Gamepass are as follows.
Core: 25 Gamepass Games + Online Multiplayer
Console Gamepass: Full Gamepass Library, No Online Multiplayer.
PC Gamepass: Full PC Gamepass Library (PC games don’t need Online Multiplayer as a paid thing)
Gamepass Ultimate: Full Console+PC Gamepass Library + Online Multiplayer + Cloud Gaming
With Gamepass Ultimate you can do that without even buying it ONCE! Out of all the subscription services I pay for these days, I feel like Gamepass is one of the better values. YMMV of course, but I love it.
Sadly, nothing good remains that way forever. The structure and terms of Gamepass will eventually change to something less optimal.
Right now, the focus is to draw in people and create a “loyal” userbase.
Once they’re content with the state of the userbase, they’ll start restricting access and features to make people pay extra for different “premiums” and it’ll slowly go to shit.
I guess. But it’s been pretty good for years at this point and it’s pretty easy to get REALLY good deals on it if you keep an eye out. I got three years of Ultimate for like $120.
Either way, just because it may get worse later is no reason not to take advantage now.
I think there’s a good chance that they fuck it up as bad as 76. I’m willing to be proven wrong, Bethesda as a company hasn’t done much to convince me otherwise. I’ll be honest, their acquisition by Microsoft has only given me more monumental doubts. I think the biggest thing Bethesda has going for it right now is pedigree and the fact that the release of their last big series entry was so long ago that people are forgetting how terrible not just the releases were, but they way they handled them as a company, especially where the pre-order merch was concerned.
There was a play tester that said when Redfall released Starfield was in even worse condition and that’s when they decided to delay it for another year.
I’m all for delaying games until they’re actually done, but it’s pretty telling they wanted to release both games in those states.
As a company they’re definitely being held up by some rosy glasses. And mods. They bank on mods to fix whatever they’re too lazy to.
Don’t forget to preorder Starfield so you can maybe receive a… wrist watch? Huh? Lol
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That’s the screenshot they’re going with? Really?
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Really, Mark Ruffalo? That’s the face you’re going with? God this movie’s gonna suck. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaZ73Yc75YE
Ryan was truly a King. It’s been just over 10 years since his death.
I’m sad he wasn’t around for the Australian beef. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPPPeyflV5I
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That is awesome! Looking forward to the reviews I hope this game delivers everything promised!
If Todd Howard’s hyping of Oblivion, Fallout3, Fallout4, and Skyrim have taught me anything - the game will come nowhere to delivering anything promised - will be massively buggy - and I’ll easily sink 100s of hours into the game not caring in the least bit and having a blast the entire time. Purchasing it again and again on every platform as the years pass. Though with gamepass I suppose I don’t have to worry about purchasing it anymore.
While Morrowind was my entry into the series in 2002/2003 - I had never heard of it until my head chef at the time told me I needed to purchase it. His hype delivered. But I have no clue what the hype of Morrowind pre-release was like or what was promised vs delivered. But I imagine it was quite similar.
This is me all day, every day.
I’m worried about preordering it and still going in with low expectations. I can’t believe everything Todd has been saying these last few years.
For the love of god I hope you haven’t pre-ordered. A fricken pox on the gaming industry.
Hell no! I do not ever preorder anything.
Honestly I haven’t been following the development or marketing for this game, but I like Todd’s games so I know I’ll end up buying it.
Without actually remembering anything too well, I do believe marketing around Morrowind was mostly graphics related. It was Beth’ switching to full on 3D and Morrowind was pretty advanced in that regard.
I mean, the screenshots in the magazins sold themselves to anyone with the mind for fantasy. Hell, it’s still the most beautiful and alien world to come out of Bethesda to date.
Only thing I remember pre Morrowind was advertising on graphics cards. My friends only knew about the game because I found the strategy guide at work (electronics boutique) before it came out and I wouldn’t stop talking about it.
I don’t think Todd Howard had his leather jacket at the time, so he wasn’t all over the place with promises.
*this will probably not work with the Steam version
Fortunately, I have a Win11 boot drive for my Steam Deck.
How is the experience on that?
Been enjoying it! I think the only trouble I have is the single USB-C port, so if I want to have it hooked up to power AND access my USB-C SSD, I have to either hook up a dock or a 3-in-1 plug.
Only complaint is that it IS super heavy. Hard to hold for long term sessions.
Yeah, this seems to be using the Xbox play anywhere system. So people who have a PC and an Xbox have thier saves synced. I’m sure it will not work steam.
Halo works fine for cross save. You will have to but the game on steam as well though
Oh it does? So you need two copies of the game, but cross save works on steam? That’s actually kinda useful for folks with steam libraries and game pass.
Yeah, you just log in with your Microsoft account once you start the game.
I still won’t buy stuff there, but this is a far better way to make a storefront interesting than Epic. Instead of locking everything behind exclusive deals to try to force people to use your platform, they’re adding actual meaningful benefits to using their storefront. Cross ownership is nice. Game pass is nice. That’s how you provide competition.
Free games aren’t an interesting incentive?
i came to lemmy to escape the “fuck epic” circlejerk, thanks
Nothing about Lemmy would suggest people would like Epic anymore than any other place on the internet. Their exclusivity deals have the potential to upset anybody regardless of what website they post on, so while there’s absolutely a degree of hivemind hatred, it’s rooted in understandable reasons.
That being said, it’s disingenuous of that person to imply that Epic never gives any good reasons to use the platform, the biggest being the waves of free games they put on “sale” from time to time, though you could go down another rabbit hole of whether thats really something that would make gamers want to use the platform, or if it’s just a nice bonus people pop in to claim while still spending their money on Steam when it comes to actual purchases.
I wasn’t being completely serious about leaving for lemmy for that one particular reason. However, one of the biggest problem I found with gaming spaces on “that site” was a variety of dumb circlejerks and tribalism, which is something I was hoping this site would be free of due to a perceived level of maturity. This includes “le epic sucks” discourse.
Yeah. Epic games is actually good now
Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean it’s automatically a circle jerk. People do have valid reasons for not choosing to spend money on the epic platform.
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It’s hard to outrun that kind of human interaction anywhere that there are enough users and the anonymity of usernames, I do think it’s not as bad on the Fediverse still, I hope it stays that way
Halo and other Xbox titles do. You would have to purchase it on steam but you’d still get access to your saves.
pcgamesn is scraping the bottom of the barrel, they literally just find ways to say something with starfield in the title. This has been a thing since at least 2016 when FH3 came out.
It’s a cool feature, always worth some mention, but baffling that they feel the need to generate a whole article out of this.
Yup. It’s also worth noting that it’ll prevent you from playing it on Linux because you can’t run most Microsoft Store apps via wine or proton. Have to buy on Steam for that, but then you lose xbox.
Kinda sucks if you’re a Linux user AND have an Xbox lying around.
You can still play cheaply on Xbox with Game Pass, though, if you want to dual wield Starfield.
I did use it for a while and discovered some games I loved, but I have periods where I don’t do as much gaming and at that point it’ll take more months to finish a game than ((cost of game) / (cost of game pass)) so lately I prefer buying again.
Now it’s been long enough since I last used game pass, I should be able to do the xbl gold to gamepass upgrade trick if it’s still a thing of course.
It’s about to not be a thing. They are removing XBLG, and changing it to be “Gamepass Core” so the new 4 tiers of Gamepass are as follows.
Core: 25 Gamepass Games + Online Multiplayer Console Gamepass: Full Gamepass Library, No Online Multiplayer. PC Gamepass: Full PC Gamepass Library (PC games don’t need Online Multiplayer as a paid thing) Gamepass Ultimate: Full Console+PC Gamepass Library + Online Multiplayer + Cloud Gaming
We need to find out which system has the most bugs and then play solely on that system for the true Bethesda experience.
With Gamepass Ultimate you can do that without even buying it ONCE! Out of all the subscription services I pay for these days, I feel like Gamepass is one of the better values. YMMV of course, but I love it.
Sadly, nothing good remains that way forever. The structure and terms of Gamepass will eventually change to something less optimal.
Right now, the focus is to draw in people and create a “loyal” userbase.
Once they’re content with the state of the userbase, they’ll start restricting access and features to make people pay extra for different “premiums” and it’ll slowly go to shit.
It is ‘the way’ of mega-corporations.
I guess. But it’s been pretty good for years at this point and it’s pretty easy to get REALLY good deals on it if you keep an eye out. I got three years of Ultimate for like $120.
Either way, just because it may get worse later is no reason not to take advantage now.
That’s cool. Although I don’t know about “deal.” It’s a subscription for access to a home-arcade in essence. You stop paying and everything goes.
But alas, it is not for me to jugde. I’m not as big a fan of the whole ‘Games as a Service’ concept.
Woah there hoss, let’s make sure it’s worth playing on one platform first.
Unless they fuck it up worse than 76, I’m pretty sure Starfield will likely be remembered the same way Skyrim and Fallout 4 are.
I think there’s a good chance that they fuck it up as bad as 76. I’m willing to be proven wrong, Bethesda as a company hasn’t done much to convince me otherwise. I’ll be honest, their acquisition by Microsoft has only given me more monumental doubts. I think the biggest thing Bethesda has going for it right now is pedigree and the fact that the release of their last big series entry was so long ago that people are forgetting how terrible not just the releases were, but they way they handled them as a company, especially where the pre-order merch was concerned.
There was a play tester that said when Redfall released Starfield was in even worse condition and that’s when they decided to delay it for another year.
I’m all for delaying games until they’re actually done, but it’s pretty telling they wanted to release both games in those states.
As a company they’re definitely being held up by some rosy glasses. And mods. They bank on mods to fix whatever they’re too lazy to.
Don’t forget to preorder Starfield so you can maybe receive a… wrist watch? Huh? Lol
Mediocre successors?
Pretty much. They’re likely never to make something as good or that surpasses Morrowind.