Cause fuck DRM. And sometimes because updates and game version on steam are different (e.g. skyrim version on steam support more mods than gog version)
Some DRM systems abuse security designs. Regular applications aren’t meant to be running at kernel level (ring 0) and should be running sandboxed at a user level. There are kernel dev blog posts that talk about this. It’s basically like making an arm move by poking a brain with a stick. Anything that can then access that stick or the hole you created can make at brain do whatever they want.
Decreased performance, as DRM is often hooked deep into event loops and adds non-negligible overhead.
Decreased privacy, as DRM often requires pinging an external server constantly.
Decreased security, as DRM is a black-box blob intentionally meant to be difficult to peer in to, and has been the target of attacks such as code execution vulnerabilities before.
If you own a game but don’t have an active internet connection, DRM may prevent you from playing the game.
If you own a game but have multiple computers, DRM may force you to buy multiple licenses when you’re only using one copy at a time (c.f., a physical CD with the game on it).
Eventually, a DRM company is going to go out of business or stop supporting old versions of their software; if you want to play an old game that had that DRM, you won’t be able to even if you own the game.
&c.
DRM exists to "protect’ the software developer, i.e. protect profits by making sure every copy has been paid for and to force people to buy multiple copies in certain cases. DRM never has and never will be for your (the consumer’s) benefit.
Fuck, i missunderstood DRM with DRM free. Im my head there was a shortcut that DRM is free gog game, shit. I was sure that it was free game. Now i get all thse downvotes.
It’s sad you got downvoted into oblivion for asking a simple (and important) question, but then again, like the other guy said it really doesn’t matter here lol.
When I was about ten years old, I bought the game Warrior Kings while visiting my grandparents using my birthday money. When I got home, I tried to install it on our computer, only to discover that the game wouldn’t install because of some DRM thing. Years later, I discovered what really happened was that the copy I bought was apparently not an original disc, but as a kid I had no way to know. I spent hours trying to install it, attempting many times over the next month. The pictures on the box looked so dang cool, but I never did get to play it.
DRM hurts consumers. When you aren’t able to use software you yourself paid for, that’s a negative. There is no benefit for the consumer, the benefit is only for the seller.
I gifted my dad a steam game for his birthday. He is a big Linux fan so he installed it on his Linux system. Now he can’t play it for more than 5 minutes before denuvo freezes not only the game but somehow even manages to freeze the complete system and he has to reboot.
Had to return the gift. It’s a shame he really wanted to play it
It’s the achievements for me. Achievement Watcher doesn’t work on GOG games installed offline.
I usually grab clean steam files on cs.rin and “crack”(my vocab sucks) the games by myself by using goldberg emu. Problem is the games I want isn’t always uploaded and updated unlike Scene releases so I instead download from them if this is the case. Scene release aren’t pre-cracked when you download them. You’d still have to copy the steam emu on the game directory first before you could run it.
Also, anyone who owns the game on GOG could just share it by downloading the offline installer on GOG Galaxy. There’s no cracking happening so I think it’s not Scene’s job to upload DRM free games. We already have gog-games and torrminatorr doing that.
I guess the reason why Scene still cracks steam games that are also released on GOG is because of tradition. Plus, it’s nice to have some other options.
I get some pretty great deals on GOG too. I don’t exclusively buy games on GOG, but I appreciate the DRM free nature of it. Galaxy could use some work to catch up with steam, but it’s almost as good IMO.
I know that 15years ago on the scene usually they cracked games for bragging rights so no DRM version was no fun hence you would find mostly the cracked version uploaded by the scene.
It does not, now thirsty dudes pay Empress 500 dollars (with no tracking so she can double dip) for cracks and those get passed around. AAA Gaming piracy has fallen into a deep slumber.
Doesn’t help that some really good scene crackers got busted and actually made to work for Denuvo as part of their plea bargain. She is talented, but in it for all the wrong reasons
She also repeatedly ranted that any male that plays a game with a male character is a homosexual. And that any conventionally attractive woman is a slut. She even went so far as to mod the appearance of female characters in one of her releases to make them more like her, lambasting female beauty standards in the process.
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So they can inject their versions with malware.
On private trackers, it’s because # of uploads is one of the things that gives you a better user class. There’s other benefits too.
Cause fuck DRM. And sometimes because updates and game version on steam are different (e.g. skyrim version on steam support more mods than gog version)
Why fuck DRM?
DRM has no benefit to the consumer only negatives.
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What are those negatives?
Some DRM systems abuse security designs. Regular applications aren’t meant to be running at kernel level (ring 0) and should be running sandboxed at a user level. There are kernel dev blog posts that talk about this. It’s basically like making an arm move by poking a brain with a stick. Anything that can then access that stick or the hole you created can make at brain do whatever they want.
DRM exists to "protect’ the software developer, i.e. protect profits by making sure every copy has been paid for and to force people to buy multiple copies in certain cases. DRM never has and never will be for your (the consumer’s) benefit.
DRM providers always die. I bet by 2040 Denuvo will be dead and we have unpatched games never to be fixed
In the case of Denuvo, it is proven to drastically decrease performance for the sake of “security.”
Examples:
Hogwarts Legacy Denuvo vs Crack
Resident Evil 8 Village Denuvo vs Crack
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Fuck, i missunderstood DRM with DRM free. Im my head there was a shortcut that DRM is free gog game, shit. I was sure that it was free game. Now i get all thse downvotes.
It’s sad you got downvoted into oblivion for asking a simple (and important) question, but then again, like the other guy said it really doesn’t matter here lol.
I’m just over here laughing because you’re asking why DRM is bad in a piracy community. That’s good popcorn right there.
Laugh it off
Fortunately, karma means nothing here, unlike on the other site. I’d say it’s nothing to worry about
When I was about ten years old, I bought the game Warrior Kings while visiting my grandparents using my birthday money. When I got home, I tried to install it on our computer, only to discover that the game wouldn’t install because of some DRM thing. Years later, I discovered what really happened was that the copy I bought was apparently not an original disc, but as a kid I had no way to know. I spent hours trying to install it, attempting many times over the next month. The pictures on the box looked so dang cool, but I never did get to play it.
DRM hurts consumers. When you aren’t able to use software you yourself paid for, that’s a negative. There is no benefit for the consumer, the benefit is only for the seller.
Did you ever try to find it later on?
I gifted my dad a steam game for his birthday. He is a big Linux fan so he installed it on his Linux system. Now he can’t play it for more than 5 minutes before denuvo freezes not only the game but somehow even manages to freeze the complete system and he has to reboot.
Had to return the gift. It’s a shame he really wanted to play it
There might be a drm free version you could buy or pirate for him
Definitely true. I could refund the game and got him a different one that he also really wanted to play so it’s all good :)
It’s the achievements for me. Achievement Watcher doesn’t work on GOG games installed offline.
I usually grab clean steam files on cs.rin and “crack”(my vocab sucks) the games by myself by using goldberg emu. Problem is the games I want isn’t always uploaded and updated unlike Scene releases so I instead download from them if this is the case. Scene release aren’t pre-cracked when you download them. You’d still have to copy the steam emu on the game directory first before you could run it.
Also, anyone who owns the game on GOG could just share it by downloading the offline installer on GOG Galaxy. There’s no cracking happening so I think it’s not Scene’s job to upload DRM free games. We already have gog-games and torrminatorr doing that.
I guess the reason why Scene still cracks steam games that are also released on GOG is because of tradition. Plus, it’s nice to have some other options.
I don’t understand half the words in this, but I read the whole thing, so have an upvote.
I saw Fitgirl say that Steam versions are easier to patch later on. GOG patches seem to be a pain in the ass. I guess at least for her repacks.
Sounds reasonable
Unless you’re talking about Sim City 4!
Wait, gog still exists? I remember that pos when it first showed up.
Why the hate? Other than the higher prices, it’s legitimately awesome
I get some pretty great deals on GOG too. I don’t exclusively buy games on GOG, but I appreciate the DRM free nature of it. Galaxy could use some work to catch up with steam, but it’s almost as good IMO.
I know that 15years ago on the scene usually they cracked games for bragging rights so no DRM version was no fun hence you would find mostly the cracked version uploaded by the scene.
I don’t know if it still operates this way.
It does not, now thirsty dudes pay Empress 500 dollars (with no tracking so she can double dip) for cracks and those get passed around. AAA Gaming piracy has fallen into a deep slumber.
Doesn’t help that some really good scene crackers got busted and actually made to work for Denuvo as part of their plea bargain. She is talented, but in it for all the wrong reasons
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Isn’t she the one that’s always ranting about trans people as well? Yeah seems like the scene changed a lot since I was last involved.
She also repeatedly ranted that any male that plays a game with a male character is a homosexual. And that any conventionally attractive woman is a slut. She even went so far as to mod the appearance of female characters in one of her releases to make them more like her, lambasting female beauty standards in the process.
She’s one hell of a bigoted nutcase. You can read her unhinged screeds here.
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