The dictation software we have is pretty shitty though. It almost always needs proof-read, or re-dictated several times to get it right. At that point you may as well just send an audio clip.
Until the day that dictation software gets it 100% correct, it’s not going to be worth my time.
For now, the human on the other end will always have an easier time understand an audio clip than a machine, because human minds are more capable of using context and getting past regional accents.
I’ll read comments, but I would never listen to voice comments. Literally never. I’d spend an hour googling for context and solutions before I’d listen to a voice message in the code pages.
Voice is objectively the worst way to convey data via computer. It almost always wastes my time, is horrible to skim for relevant info, and for complex topics is an absolute nightmare.
Text is so, so much more efficient. I can’t imagine why anyone would want this. If it’s ever implemented, please don’t make it obvious. Nobody should be encouraged to inflict this on coworkers or future devs.
The dictation software we have is pretty shitty though.
As someone who used dictation software when said software needed to be trained first and also trained its users how to speak more clearly, it always amazes me when I hear people say things like this.
The problem is human speech is lazy and inaccurate. Half of the time I have to listen to a voice clip there are two or three words in the clip that are barely intelligible. If I don’t catch it by the third pass I stop and just guess by context. It is the same thing the AWESOME dictation software we have today does, but saves me the time and effort and gives the sender a chance to fix their own mumbles.
Of course, I’m one of those people whose voicemail message used to be, “Don’t leave me a message unless your call went straight to voicemail. I will see your missed call and call you back.”
Most of the times I get a voice message it could be written in two sentences, but they still decide to make it a two minute voice message. Just a lot of useless stuff added for free
Sorry, hon. It’s hardwired into humans to add in code for “I am alive and not cackling mad or suicidal yet today” during “conversations.” It would probably be more effective at screening for bots than captcha, but not as good at training bots.
I have literally given up friendships from people that wouldn’t stop sending me voice messages.
I accept it from family, kids, the elderly and such. I just can’t believe people want me to turn off my music and slowly listen to your shitty voice when I can easily multitask.
maybe this sucks of me but when people do this i just don’t bother listening. sorry you couldn’t be assed to send a fifteen second text, i def can’t be fucked to listen to a five minute ramble that’s mostly filler
Dude you’re not thinking about it the right way. We can define a new multi byte character set to help define mood (both speaker and listener), intention, irony, sarcasm, sincerity, bodily functions, and so on. This is a solvable problem.
Oh hahaha nooooo, it would be 15 seconds, and it would start with a sigh and deep, troubled breathing noises, a finger tapping the mic and someone saying “is this thing on” before the entirely useless comment even starts.
I actually like this, at least in some way it could lower the barrier for actually explaining what a function does. Though I don’t see this working in an office environment
You can’t skim an audio file, you have to listen from the beginning to the end. Audio makes symbols that are often used in programming difficult to parse or confusing. I… really dislike this
Audio is also impossible to edit/correct. You’d have to re-record the whole thing (or embed an audio editing suite in the IDE). And also make sure only one person recorded the comments (for a consistent voice).
AI generated text to speech would be far better than this.
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If I ever encountered a voice comment in code I would immediately track that motherfucker down and do terrible things to them
I hope this is a joke and not intended to be real.
I mean it’s in this community
No, this is real:
Then I hope it won’t get any traction.
I hope it does, it’s brilliant.
Are you the type of person who prefers 5-minute video tutorials for computer tasks that could be explained with a single paragraph?
Because in my mind that’s a similar level of time/data wasting inefficiency
No, I’m merely an enjoyer of shitposting and this stupid thing got my imagination going.
You are too dangerous to be kept alive.
I already hate people who send voice messages in a world where dictation software exists. I hate whoever even thought of joking about this even more.
The dictation software we have is pretty shitty though. It almost always needs proof-read, or re-dictated several times to get it right. At that point you may as well just send an audio clip.
Until the day that dictation software gets it 100% correct, it’s not going to be worth my time.
For now, the human on the other end will always have an easier time understand an audio clip than a machine, because human minds are more capable of using context and getting past regional accents.
FTFY
I’ll read comments, but I would never listen to voice comments. Literally never. I’d spend an hour googling for context and solutions before I’d listen to a voice message in the code pages.
Voice is objectively the worst way to convey data via computer. It almost always wastes my time, is horrible to skim for relevant info, and for complex topics is an absolute nightmare.
Text is so, so much more efficient. I can’t imagine why anyone would want this. If it’s ever implemented, please don’t make it obvious. Nobody should be encouraged to inflict this on coworkers or future devs.
e: errant ’s’
As someone who used dictation software when said software needed to be trained first and also trained its users how to speak more clearly, it always amazes me when I hear people say things like this.
The problem is human speech is lazy and inaccurate. Half of the time I have to listen to a voice clip there are two or three words in the clip that are barely intelligible. If I don’t catch it by the third pass I stop and just guess by context. It is the same thing the AWESOME dictation software we have today does, but saves me the time and effort and gives the sender a chance to fix their own mumbles.
Of course, I’m one of those people whose voicemail message used to be, “Don’t leave me a message unless your call went straight to voicemail. I will see your missed call and call you back.”
Most of the times I get a voice message it could be written in two sentences, but they still decide to make it a two minute voice message. Just a lot of useless stuff added for free
Sorry, hon. It’s hardwired into humans to add in code for “I am alive and not cackling mad or suicidal yet today” during “conversations.” It would probably be more effective at screening for bots than captcha, but not as good at training bots.
I always try to think about what I’m writing before sending it, you can’t proofread an audio message
I have literally given up friendships from people that wouldn’t stop sending me voice messages.
I accept it from family, kids, the elderly and such. I just can’t believe people want me to turn off my music and slowly listen to your shitty voice when I can easily multitask.
I just never set up my voicemail. Then people who actually have a chance of successfully contacting me know not to even try the phone.
At least most apps added playback speed selector.
Voice messages are good for those who speak a language which doesn’t get focused on by transcription services or are too old to read tiny text
maybe this sucks of me but when people do this i just don’t bother listening. sorry you couldn’t be assed to send a fifteen second text, i def can’t be fucked to listen to a five minute ramble that’s mostly filler
But dictation software would omit crucial parts like ummms, coughing etc
“crucial parts”
Dude you’re not thinking about it the right way. We can define a new multi byte character set to help define mood (both speaker and listener), intention, irony, sarcasm, sincerity, bodily functions, and so on. This is a solvable problem.
Yeah, you🚽 might💨 be💩 onto😌 something💦
You missed a /s marker
I assumed it was obvious because honestly who would do that
Some people hace difficulty picking on sarcasm, specially on the internet. That’s why you should use “/s” even if it may sound obvious to you
Generally? Sure.
But this is programmerhumor.
Looking at how good textual documentation works, it would probably be a 3s long note reading out the method name
Oh hahaha nooooo, it would be 15 seconds, and it would start with a sigh and deep, troubled breathing noises, a finger tapping the mic and someone saying “is this thing on” before the entirely useless comment even starts.
Obviously they should be using syntactically correct JavaDoc format here so the voice messages can be converted to HTML
Don’t kid yourself, it would be 15 seconds of swearing followed by 2 seconds of useless misleading info.
All my comments would just be Rick Astley
Never gonna
let = MyVariabledownNever gonna
MyVariable.run()aroundNever gonna
let you = downKinda goofy ngl
Do you start recording before or after you rage with expletives?
Before. Always before.
It’s crucial metadata
You could measure the amount of swearing in each comment and automatically grade code quality based on it.
I would enable this in my project so I can ban any contributor who submits an MR with it
Ban this person from computers forever.
Or Base64 inside the comment text
OK, but there’s need to be some automatic beeping over my <expletive deleted> comments.
Fuck docstring or JSDoc. This is clearly the way.
I actually like this, at least in some way it could lower the barrier for actually explaining what a function does. Though I don’t see this working in an office environment
You can’t skim an audio file, you have to listen from the beginning to the end. Audio makes symbols that are often used in programming difficult to parse or confusing. I… really dislike this
Audio is also impossible to edit/correct. You’d have to re-record the whole thing (or embed an audio editing suite in the IDE). And also make sure only one person recorded the comments (for a consistent voice).
AI generated text to speech would be far better than this.
Yes! Feature creep! Just what I like.
Id like it to be a good speech to text that is context aware and recognizes when I reference my code etc.
I also like when people respond to my texts with voice memos