Hi, Im one of those people who jumps in to say “vote for democrats, because they are definitely crappy but they are significantly less crappy and dangerous for everyone not a straight white wealthy (male) christian.”
I agree with you that America does desperately need a truly progressive alternative. But the problem is FPTP exists. Until it is gone, voters are screwed.
I will stop posting these kinds of responses to your posts however, if you think people being alarmed about republicans and wanting to stop them is “blue maga”.
Look, this is politics and all, but blatant false equivalencies in a world of disinformation is dangerous, unenlightening, and unproductive. I’ll leave it for now, but try to be more thoughtful in the future.
Well, if MAGA means Make America Great Again, I can confirm that anything not Red would indeed make America better again. I mean, did you see the fucking shitshow that is the GOP right now? Not wanting to kill women in birth and kids in school shootings should be more than enough, don’t you think?
There’s a blue leftist movement (Bernie Politics), a blue liberal movement (Obama Politics), and then there’s Red Trump MAGA…
A lot of people in that leftist crowd don’t think Biden cares about them or that the current generation of Democrats can get anything done but they sure don’t want Trump. A lot of people in the center (including independents) don’t get the message about Biden’s accomplishments, including the Obama politics crowd (and a large part of that is folks just don’t want to have conversations like this, and the conservative media machine is very good at pushing nonsense about how Biden is ineffective).
I would add that polls don’t mean shit that far away from the vote. People can still be angry for some good reasons, and manage to do best thing to do on D-day. I still remember when polls were saying that nobody would vote for Trump.
Even as an outlier, this is only really interesting as a demonstration of the power of Fox News / right-wing propaganda. Objectively, Biden is a bland no-drama candidate. His only scandal isn’t even his - it’s his son’s. He should have a fairly high approval because he’s weathering quite a few crises (not to mention cleaning up after Trump driving the country straight into a brick wall). And likewise, any rational person will have written Trump off as a dangerous easily-manipulated man-child sociopath - that’s demonstrated in pretty much every speech he gives.
The idea that even an outlier has Trump leading by 10 is only possible because the Fox News echo chamber actually works, and is still continuing to pull a substantial minority of country to the right. I would love for an epidemiologist to quantify it somehow, but at this point I’m guessing it’s a 20-25 point swing.
A dumb take. Outlier polls may be flawed or they may contain useful information that other pollsters are missing. But we won’t find out which if they get publicly shamed for releasing them.
I think the criticism is that they’re repeatedly publishing these and claiming they’re outliers without attempting to show how they got their results, from what I’m reading.
Pointless survey since we don’t have national elections.
We won’t have a real understanding until we can count Trump primary votes and compare that to the state by state results in the 2016 primary and general.
Then it’s matter of following state by state polling until election day.
God I hate this country. Bunch of idiots. Oh maybe the dude clearly not looking out for the countries best interest should run the country. Like he clearly is going to be convicted on several accounts from his first term. This criminal who only wants to continue ruining the country for his own profits. Who mishandled every single damn event in his presidency. Who supports white supremacy. That’s who we should get to run the country. Good god Republicans maybe try to pretend you still want a free America.
Frankly I can’t see how anyone on beehaw can claim they are being nice while supporting Trump. Someone clearly aiming to remove LGBTQIA+ from the country if not the world.
All you have to do a GQP supporter is recite that mantra and you free yourself of the Woke Virus by wiping your mind clean! Suddenly Trump never did or said all those things on youtube
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Do we elect generals now?!?? I thought those two were trying to be president!!?
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When even the pollster acknowledged its a strange result its likely not real.
No one cares about Biden. Maga people still want Trump.
It’s to be expected. Hashtag news marketing.
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Hi, Im one of those people who jumps in to say “vote for democrats, because they are definitely crappy but they are significantly less crappy and dangerous for everyone not a straight white wealthy (male) christian.”
I agree with you that America does desperately need a truly progressive alternative. But the problem is FPTP exists. Until it is gone, voters are screwed.
I will stop posting these kinds of responses to your posts however, if you think people being alarmed about republicans and wanting to stop them is “blue maga”.
Look, this is politics and all, but blatant false equivalencies in a world of disinformation is dangerous, unenlightening, and unproductive. I’ll leave it for now, but try to be more thoughtful in the future.
Well, if MAGA means Make America Great Again, I can confirm that anything not Red would indeed make America better again. I mean, did you see the fucking shitshow that is the GOP right now? Not wanting to kill women in birth and kids in school shootings should be more than enough, don’t you think?
There really isn’t a blue MAGA.
There’s a blue leftist movement (Bernie Politics), a blue liberal movement (Obama Politics), and then there’s Red Trump MAGA…
A lot of people in that leftist crowd don’t think Biden cares about them or that the current generation of Democrats can get anything done but they sure don’t want Trump. A lot of people in the center (including independents) don’t get the message about Biden’s accomplishments, including the Obama politics crowd (and a large part of that is folks just don’t want to have conversations like this, and the conservative media machine is very good at pushing nonsense about how Biden is ineffective).
I would add that polls don’t mean shit that far away from the vote. People can still be angry for some good reasons, and manage to do best thing to do on D-day. I still remember when polls were saying that nobody would vote for Trump.
IOW: the average person will see no reason to vote because things aren’t like when Trump was in charge.
Trumpers are mad and are being made madder still. They will turn out to vote like crazy.
If won’t vote, you better start learning Russian and mandarin
Even as an outlier, this is only really interesting as a demonstration of the power of Fox News / right-wing propaganda. Objectively, Biden is a bland no-drama candidate. His only scandal isn’t even his - it’s his son’s. He should have a fairly high approval because he’s weathering quite a few crises (not to mention cleaning up after Trump driving the country straight into a brick wall). And likewise, any rational person will have written Trump off as a dangerous easily-manipulated man-child sociopath - that’s demonstrated in pretty much every speech he gives.
The idea that even an outlier has Trump leading by 10 is only possible because the Fox News echo chamber actually works, and is still continuing to pull a substantial minority of country to the right. I would love for an epidemiologist to quantify it somehow, but at this point I’m guessing it’s a 20-25 point swing.
Fox News really has rotted so many brains. People unironically using phrases “crt” and “woke” as boogeymen to rally against is just sad.
What is surprising is that it’s only 10%.
Your country seems inches away from imploding :0/
It feels like this country is way past imploding, and now everyone is wondering why it hasn’t yet.
The country has already imploded, we’re still dealing with the aftermath.
ROFL
Yeah sure. In other news, poll statistics are skewed to whatever yields shocking headlines.
“Additionally, Mr Biden’s age remains a problem for many who believe at 80 years old, he is too old to run again.”
Trump will be the same age Biden is now in 2026.
In other words, Trump is only three years younger than Biden.
Moscow Mitch is even older than Biden.
Cannot believe that Trump appears to be the republican nominee. Again.
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A dumb take. Outlier polls may be flawed or they may contain useful information that other pollsters are missing. But we won’t find out which if they get publicly shamed for releasing them.
I think the criticism is that they’re repeatedly publishing these and claiming they’re outliers without attempting to show how they got their results, from what I’m reading.
Pointless survey since we don’t have national elections.
We won’t have a real understanding until we can count Trump primary votes and compare that to the state by state results in the 2016 primary and general.
Then it’s matter of following state by state polling until election day.
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God I hate this country. Bunch of idiots. Oh maybe the dude clearly not looking out for the countries best interest should run the country. Like he clearly is going to be convicted on several accounts from his first term. This criminal who only wants to continue ruining the country for his own profits. Who mishandled every single damn event in his presidency. Who supports white supremacy. That’s who we should get to run the country. Good god Republicans maybe try to pretend you still want a free America.
Frankly I can’t see how anyone on beehaw can claim they are being nice while supporting Trump. Someone clearly aiming to remove LGBTQIA+ from the country if not the world.
FAKE NEWS
All you have to do a GQP supporter is recite that mantra and you free yourself of the Woke Virus by wiping your mind clean! Suddenly Trump never did or said all those things on youtube
And when he admits to fully doing it. Well that was just part of his master plan.
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Who are they polling? I mean seriously, who actually picks up a call on their phone from a number they don’t recognize?
Polling means nothing these days. Election trends matter. That’s it.