Question - What happens if we are hosting a Git repo ourselves, like using Gitea or something, and we receive a DMCA takedown request and we refuse? I mean, they can take down the domain, but what if weare hosting on a personal homeserver and keep changing domains whenever they take one down?
Then it’s your choice to comply, call their bluff, or do whatever you want. I’ve seen people who doxxed the DMCA sender and made threats towards the sending agent (the hoster was Russian).
Though best course of action would be to comply or ignore it, don’t do what that guy did, best to keep quiet than to stir up trouble.
Outright refusal or ignoring it does come with the risk of litigation (threats can accelerate it or lead to prosecution) assuming you’re within their jurisdiction.
The F-droid repository would be in the clear net I believe, I may be wrong, but it’s way more unlikely that it would get shut down IMO, it doesn’t get much traffic as a web page
Hopefully they had backups elsewhere. This is why piracy apps need to at least try a little to not make their github so obviously a piracy app.
I hope @MonetarySqueeze@lemmy.dbzer0.com updates reiverr to use open source movies from the blender studio for the images/gifs so it can be passed off as a media app for non piracy related streaming
Imo this is why big projects that are borderline like this should use github alternatives, preferably self hosted solutions.
This was always going to happen.
Well, Git is still centralized. Typically there’s only one main location where work on a project happens - a Git forge like GitHub, or in the simplest scenario just an SSH server.
Federation will help because it will allow working on a project in one forge from another forge. You could e.g. create a pull request on your own self-hosted forge (e.g. Forgejo instance) and then submit that pull request on another forge that’s hosted somewhere else. GitHub taking down a repo wouldn’t be as annoying, since people would still have the main sources of their pull requests in their own forges. And GitHub wouldn’t be able to remove their fork for whatever reason.
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Git x activityPub 🤔 seems doable, or where would be problems? Just something like pipeline, which creates an activity post including the commits🤔🤔
But that is already possible right now?
Using a git forge is only a convention to make life easier, not something coming from git itself. You can have as many remotes as you like.
I believe that Git is decentralized. Because people choose to use Git hosting services doesn’t make Git itself centralized. Git doesn’t force you to sign up on GitHub, GitLab or Bitbucket. You can use git-appraise to get decentralized code reviews. You can use git-bug to get decentralized issue tracking. You can always send maintainers patches with the built-in send-email command as GitHub/GitLab/… require an email address either way. You can always clone and push the repository somewhere else. Most (self-hosted) Git hosting services provide an automated migration procedure for issues, discussions, etc.
Yet another reminder that GitHub is not your friend, but also that borderline projects shouldn’t be hosted on anyone else’s server other than your own, you’ll possess all the repository data, but you’ll also be made to shut down anyway if on the clearnet, so I wonder if it’s possible to host a forge through Tor/i2p or others.
Still, this is clearly wrong on who sent the DMCA, the apps never host the content, I hope they can get back up.
there are already many forges hosted through i2p, I imagine the same can be said for tor. That doesn’t mean the host can’t ban you there as well though.
Maybe they changed something since I used it the last time when it came out but I find the UI to be horrible.
It’s a Manga UI used for watching anime. I rather have a UI with beautiful animations. Saikou has one of the most beautiful UI I’ve ever seen in an app.
While I love Tachiyomi (J2K) as a Manga reader and I think it’s the best one on any platform, it’s not great as a Streaming app designed as a streaming app (I know Saikou isn’t just a streaming app and you can also read Mangas in it, but I rather use Tachiyomi for that)
Edit: just checked it out. Nope still a Manga app UI for an anime streaming app with horrible discoverability and you can’t switch between different sources easily. The sources are cool I guess, but I don’t need those. You also can’t add something on Anilist and automatically have it added to your “continue watching” list.
Switching sources def isn’t a single button thing, but it’s only a few clicks using the Migrate option in the 3 dot menu, it will transfer the progress you had in the previous source and the Anilist/MAL tracking.
Since I use AniChart’s website directly I never missed that part being in the app, but it would be cool too.
It has anilist too, that’s what I use. I had never even heard of saikou before so haven’t used it but I’ve never had any issues with aniyomi. It’s perfectly functional in finding anything I want to watch and looks good. Can’t do anything about your subjective preferences though.
Just that Saikou isn’t just an anime streaming app. It’s also an Anilist client. And it’s beautiful and I love the animations and video player features like a skip intro button and it’s generally just beautiful. You also can read Manga with it, but I honestly prefer Tachiyomi for that.
Aniyomi already has Aniskip (skip intros) integrated and can connect to your Anilist account to update your entries, automatically if you enable that, or manually.
I almost never go to the actual Anilist interface anymore, it works great.
I also use it to read a lot, and it has extensions for everything including Drama, Movies, Hentai, Porn…
Like I said before it’s an Manga app that added Anime streaming functionality. I still use Tachiyomi for Manga though.
With Aniyomi I can’t easily discover new anime, continue watching ones I added on Anilist on my PC and have this beautiful UI with really good, switch sources with a press of a button and have these fluid animations.
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Question - What happens if we are hosting a Git repo ourselves, like using Gitea or something, and we receive a DMCA takedown request and we refuse? I mean, they can take down the domain, but what if weare hosting on a personal homeserver and keep changing domains whenever they take one down?
Then it’s your choice to comply, call their bluff, or do whatever you want. I’ve seen people who doxxed the DMCA sender and made threats towards the sending agent (the hoster was Russian).
Though best course of action would be to comply or ignore it, don’t do what that guy did, best to keep quiet than to stir up trouble.
Outright refusal or ignoring it does come with the risk of litigation (threats can accelerate it or lead to prosecution) assuming you’re within their jurisdiction.
Then they would sue you and could get you in prison or at least you have to pay a very large fine. Possibly millions.
They should upload the code on an .onion page
But hiding an onion address’s IP is very hard. No?
No. That’s literally the point of it.
Nobody would use the app then because nobody know of it and people would download viruses.
They could make their own F-droid repository to be easily accessible to users
Doesn’t really fix the issue if it’s only available over Tor or I2P.
The F-droid repository would be in the clear net I believe, I may be wrong, but it’s way more unlikely that it would get shut down IMO, it doesn’t get much traffic as a web page
That really doesn’t change that they have to comply with DMCA requests.
Legally, you cannot refuse. DMCA is written such that the host must take down first and ask questions later.
Hopefully they had backups elsewhere. This is why piracy apps need to at least try a little to not make their github so obviously a piracy app.
I hope @MonetarySqueeze@lemmy.dbzer0.com updates reiverr to use open source movies from the blender studio for the images/gifs so it can be passed off as a media app for non piracy related streaming
It was pretty popular and had thousands of stars. It even trended on GitHub
So this was pretty much unavoidable.
Imo this is why big projects that are borderline like this should use github alternatives, preferably self hosted solutions. This was always going to happen.
Man when they finally git repo federation will be available…
Gitea already has that.
What is git repo federation? Why will this help?
I thought git is a very decentralized technology?
Well, Git is still centralized. Typically there’s only one main location where work on a project happens - a Git forge like GitHub, or in the simplest scenario just an SSH server.
Federation will help because it will allow working on a project in one forge from another forge. You could e.g. create a pull request on your own self-hosted forge (e.g. Forgejo instance) and then submit that pull request on another forge that’s hosted somewhere else. GitHub taking down a repo wouldn’t be as annoying, since people would still have the main sources of their pull requests in their own forges. And GitHub wouldn’t be able to remove their fork for whatever reason.
Reminds me of this defcon talk https://youtu.be/rimtaSgGz_4?si=9uYFYGxFYA3KI0Es
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Like Git x activityPub 🤔 seems doable, or where would be problems? Just something like pipeline, which creates an activity post including the commits🤔🤔
I’m not smart enough to understand it, but maybe these sites can help you see how they’re doing it:
Forgefed looks very good, I’ll test that out 😃
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Gotta uses ActivityPub? Afaik it was just a nice easy to self host git solution like gog
But that is already possible right now? Using a git forge is only a convention to make life easier, not something coming from git itself. You can have as many remotes as you like.
I believe that Git is decentralized. Because people choose to use Git hosting services doesn’t make Git itself centralized. Git doesn’t force you to sign up on GitHub, GitLab or Bitbucket. You can use git-appraise to get decentralized code reviews. You can use git-bug to get decentralized issue tracking. You can always send maintainers patches with the built-in send-email command as GitHub/GitLab/… require an email address either way. You can always clone and push the repository somewhere else. Most (self-hosted) Git hosting services provide an automated migration procedure for issues, discussions, etc.
Git is centralized by design.
Yet another reminder that GitHub is not your friend, but also that borderline projects shouldn’t be hosted on anyone else’s server other than your own, you’ll possess all the repository data, but you’ll also be made to shut down anyway if on the clearnet, so I wonder if it’s possible to host a forge through Tor/i2p or others.
Still, this is clearly wrong on who sent the DMCA, the apps never host the content, I hope they can get back up.
there are already many forges hosted through i2p, I imagine the same can be said for tor. That doesn’t mean the host can’t ban you there as well though.
Unlike three-letter agencies I dont think the copyright holders of some anime will be able to figure out who hosts you if youre behind tor.
Not that I think putting a repository behind tor would be a good idea when it comes to ease of use in submitting bug reports or contributions.
i didn’t necessarily mean copyright holders could find you, i just meant you’re still at the mercy of the host (unless that host is you)
Exactly GitHub is owned by Microsoft
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Maybe they changed something since I used it the last time when it came out but I find the UI to be horrible.
It’s a Manga UI used for watching anime. I rather have a UI with beautiful animations. Saikou has one of the most beautiful UI I’ve ever seen in an app.
While I love Tachiyomi (J2K) as a Manga reader and I think it’s the best one on any platform, it’s not great as a Streaming app designed as a streaming app (I know Saikou isn’t just a streaming app and you can also read Mangas in it, but I rather use Tachiyomi for that)
Edit: just checked it out. Nope still a Manga app UI for an anime streaming app with horrible discoverability and you can’t switch between different sources easily. The sources are cool I guess, but I don’t need those. You also can’t add something on Anilist and automatically have it added to your “continue watching” list.
Switching sources def isn’t a single button thing, but it’s only a few clicks using the Migrate option in the
3 dot menu, it will transfer the progress you had in the previous source and the Anilist/MAL tracking.Since I use AniChart’s website directly I never missed that part being in the app, but it would be cool too.
Yeah it even has the release calender built in and you can see how long you have to wait for a new episode to release
cloudstream!
It absolutely is, the extensions are brilliant.
Any fork?
I think all were also dmca’d
https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2023/09/2023-09-20-corsearch.md
Yet another hydra head falls… 😂
Just use aniyomi, it’s not locked to anilist
But I like Anilist. And the UI and features of Saikou
The UI of Tachiyomi isn’t made for Anime. It’s a Manga app and it’s great for that, but it’s horrible for Anime
It has anilist too, that’s what I use. I had never even heard of saikou before so haven’t used it but I’ve never had any issues with aniyomi. It’s perfectly functional in finding anything I want to watch and looks good. Can’t do anything about your subjective preferences though.
Just that Saikou isn’t just an anime streaming app. It’s also an Anilist client. And it’s beautiful and I love the animations and video player features like a skip intro button and it’s generally just beautiful. You also can read Manga with it, but I honestly prefer Tachiyomi for that.
Aniyomi already has Aniskip (skip intros) integrated and can connect to your Anilist account to update your entries, automatically if you enable that, or manually.
I almost never go to the actual Anilist interface anymore, it works great.
I also use it to read a lot, and it has extensions for everything including Drama, Movies, Hentai, Porn…
For me it was always the best app.
Ehh, not for me.
Like I said before it’s an Manga app that added Anime streaming functionality. I still use Tachiyomi for Manga though.
With Aniyomi I can’t easily discover new anime, continue watching ones I added on Anilist on my PC and have this beautiful UI with really good, switch sources with a press of a button and have these fluid animations.
Just look at this:
It does look really nice haha
I backed it up. You can try it if you want:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqwI_W0TvdXTh_8MwtVgL24_yBzNLA
I see. Well with the power of anime I’m sure some weeb out there will make a fork of it one way or another
Just try it. I backed it up. But you need to have an AniList account since it uses Anilist’s API for a lot of features:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqwI_W0TvdXTh_8MwtVgL24_yBzNLA
The dev of Saikou made an announcement on the Discord about this
What the deuce is Chouten? I could not find a thing about it
I doubt this is larger than when MegaUpload got DMCA’d.
But yes, it’s pretty big.
Yeah, I mean any Anime related app takedown
Can you link their telegram?
It’s gone
There must be a username/t.me link which is used previously
why is the DMCA the one area the government has apparently unlimited power and resources
It’s frequently laywers and companies appeasing them, not the government.
Lol. Somebody reposted my post on reddit: reddit.com/r/animepiracy/comments/16v4jru/saikou_the_best_anime_streaming_app_on_android/
I don’t mind at all and am kinda happy.
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