I just set up all the subreddits I still want to following in Reeder, an RSS app. I’m able scroll through the posts ad free. It the occurred to me that this is a loss of revenue to Reddit. Could RSS be the new target for onerous fees?
It could be the case that RSS usage is small compared to 3rd party apps like Apollo so not of much concern. It also may be the case that it isn’t possible for Reddit to charge for the usage. If they can’t charge, they may just disable RSS altogether. I’m only guessing. I’ll take off my tinfoil hat now.
Its only a matter of weeks now, days after the 1st of July. RSS feeds count as free access to the Reddit API and therefore unauthorized third party apps, so the’re definitely be gone.
After the userbase has been conditioned to the fact that there isn’t a 3rd party Reddit reader anymore, they will kill off old.reddit.com.
Do you have a good way to find rss feeds? I’m looking to emulate my own hacker news in terms of non-tech interesting articles, and sometimes I feel lost trying to find feeds to subscribe to
If reddit gets rid of their rss feeds then i’m absolutely done using that site. I already plan on staying away from reddit based on the api changes getting rid of my 3rd party reddit client. If they get rid of rss feed then I have no reason to use that site, nor would I want to anymore.
Any links to things you can do with that JSON file? I don’t really know Java but it’d be cool to mess around with it in Python some. Searching “reddit python JSON” is obviously not very helpful.
I hope not but who really knows at this point? I imagine the amount of people following subreddits via rss is really small in the grand scheme of things so hopefully they don’t see a reason to kill them.
I think eventually they will. They wish to put up their walled garden.
As for Their current RSS feed, it only grabs the post, right? Not the comments as well. That limits its usefulness a bit, depending on what you use reddit for.
I used to have it set up so it gave me a personal RSS feed of replies to me. I don’t remember the details because it was a really long time ago, but it was kind of cool and I pitched it to a couple other places that needed notifications but didn’t have mobile apps (none bought in though).
The Reddit RSS wiki entry explains basic use of the RSS features and also links to a masterclass on advance use of the feature from 11 years ago . From the comments these features still currently work as of 5 months ago, and you can pull comment feeds but I’m not sure how useful it would be given how RSS works.
Yeah one major reason RSS has died is because content makers moved away from it as it bypassed their own sites advert serving, particularly if anything more than titles are shared. Reddit will go the same way. Also many content sites have moved to tricks to track and monetise users landing on their pages with share to facebook, facebook like, share to twitter etc buttons (which also passively track people just by a user loading a page with them on). Those all help feed the big tracking systems that social media companies like Facebook use to monetise users data by spying on them, profiling them and selling or using information for marketing; so RSS feeds also deminish that income source.
Google has done it’s part in this - it killed Google Reader which was a popular RSS reader. It wasn’t a huge product but looking back it makes sense to kill it when it also wants to track people across the internet and also concerns it may have to pay content providers for their content.
Does the “reader” button in your browser redirect you to your rss reader, or are you just using the browser feature for readability? Because the second one does not need rss.
@django Yeah. I’m just using the reader view in the browser. Is it that web sites have reader views for individual articles but no longer update an index of some kind?
The reader view is not provided by websites, this is solely a browser function. They apply an algorithm to extract the content of the website and represent it in a readable way.
If you are interested in this, the one used by firefox is available as a library: https://github.com/mozilla/readability
Yeah, RSS is alive and well. Sure, you aren’t getting full articles, but with a full brief and a leap into a browser with a reader view is a pretty slick experience.
At the current usage, I really doubt it. If a significant amount of people start using RSS readers as an alternative to the third party clients they were using previously, it’s a possibility.
More likely it depends if researchers of Largue Language Models (like in ChatGPT/GPT4, LLaMA, etc.) will use RSS feeds
thats at least my idea because the API pricing is so drastic and high, Reddit was one of the biggest sources of these models
It will depends on what traffic looks like in the first week of July. If the traffic in the official apps and web dips too much then they will have to hang on to everything that drives any traffic.
TIL reddit has RSS feeds. Welp, I’ll see if I can use it to plug in my favorites until they cut it for ‘profit-seeking measures’ and ‘loosing 200 billion dollars a year’
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It should always be possible to scrape and make a feed. I use this at the moment: https://github.com/trashhalo/reddit-rss
It would be a fun project to learn how to make a web scraper.
that is only half the work/job, other half is learning how to avoid ban.
I’ve been scraping 16+ years and it is easy till they get onto you and block you.
what do you use the most to scrape ? i’m thinking to learn scrapy.
Scrapy is really simple and straightforward.
You can start really fast.
I scraped literally everything :)
Personal hobbies, business wise,…
Scripts, apps, databases, got data for a lot of stuff
I am now usually working with APIs, but still need scraping sometimes.
Thank you. Would you mind if i send you PM? Need to ask something relating to my job.
Of course you can :) If we have PMs ('_)
haha. good thing. was not sure but checked in my instance, (vlemmy) there is an option to send message. let me know if you receive it.
Its only a matter of weeks now, days after the 1st of July. RSS feeds count as free access to the Reddit API and therefore unauthorized third party apps, so the’re definitely be gone.
After the userbase has been conditioned to the fact that there isn’t a 3rd party Reddit reader anymore, they will kill off old.reddit.com.
The only non-infurating way to read reddit. If it’s gone people who didn’t care so far might actually feel inconvenienced and move out.
They might
Yep I just finished setting up Feeder for the websites I read most and a few subreddits.
That’s good news
Do you have a good way to find rss feeds? I’m looking to emulate my own hacker news in terms of non-tech interesting articles, and sometimes I feel lost trying to find feeds to subscribe to
For news sites and blogs built on wordpress (most of them are) you can just add /feed to the url. E.g fivethirtyeight.com/feed
If reddit gets rid of their rss feeds then i’m absolutely done using that site. I already plan on staying away from reddit based on the api changes getting rid of my 3rd party reddit client. If they get rid of rss feed then I have no reason to use that site, nor would I want to anymore.
Speaking of which, does lemmy have rss feeds?
I suspect they will at some point. I used their RSS feeds for years but, whatever they choose to do now, it won’t effect me anymore.
How do you add a subreddit as an rss feed?
put .rss on the end of the subreddit url and add to a reader. I made a multireddit containing all of my subs, and access it like this (the multireddit has to be marked public: https://www.reddit.com/user/username/m/multiredditname/.rss
https://reddit.0qz.fun/r/news.json
There are a lot of options but this site will turn the JSON into XML for RSS. If you want it in JSON format you can just use Reddit
https://reddit.com/r/news.json
Edit: Reddit also does RSS but it is kinda gross
https://reddit.com/r/news/.rss
Any links to things you can do with that JSON file? I don’t really know Java but it’d be cool to mess around with it in Python some. Searching “reddit python JSON” is obviously not very helpful.
Oh you can just use something like this:
import requests
import json
json_string = requests.get(‘https://reddit.com/r/news.json’)
json_dict = json.loads(json_string)
I hope not but who really knows at this point? I imagine the amount of people following subreddits via rss is really small in the grand scheme of things so hopefully they don’t see a reason to kill them.
i would if was them.
I think eventually they will. They wish to put up their walled garden.
As for Their current RSS feed, it only grabs the post, right? Not the comments as well. That limits its usefulness a bit, depending on what you use reddit for.
I used to have it set up so it gave me a personal RSS feed of replies to me. I don’t remember the details because it was a really long time ago, but it was kind of cool and I pitched it to a couple other places that needed notifications but didn’t have mobile apps (none bought in though).
The Reddit RSS wiki entry explains basic use of the RSS features and also links to a masterclass on advance use of the feature from 11 years ago . From the comments these features still currently work as of 5 months ago, and you can pull comment feeds but I’m not sure how useful it would be given how RSS works.
The masterclass link is blocked for me “unreviewed content” with a use the official app message.
Yeah one major reason RSS has died is because content makers moved away from it as it bypassed their own sites advert serving, particularly if anything more than titles are shared. Reddit will go the same way. Also many content sites have moved to tricks to track and monetise users landing on their pages with share to facebook, facebook like, share to twitter etc buttons (which also passively track people just by a user loading a page with them on). Those all help feed the big tracking systems that social media companies like Facebook use to monetise users data by spying on them, profiling them and selling or using information for marketing; so RSS feeds also deminish that income source.
Google has done it’s part in this - it killed Google Reader which was a popular RSS reader. It wasn’t a huge product but looking back it makes sense to kill it when it also wants to track people across the internet and also concerns it may have to pay content providers for their content.
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Does the “reader” button in your browser redirect you to your rss reader, or are you just using the browser feature for readability? Because the second one does not need rss.
@django Yeah. I’m just using the reader view in the browser. Is it that web sites have reader views for individual articles but no longer update an index of some kind?
The reader view is not provided by websites, this is solely a browser function. They apply an algorithm to extract the content of the website and represent it in a readable way. If you are interested in this, the one used by firefox is available as a library: https://github.com/mozilla/readability
@django I obviously didn’t know that. Thanks for taking the time to explain.
Yeah, RSS is alive and well. Sure, you aren’t getting full articles, but with a full brief and a leap into a browser with a reader view is a pretty slick experience.
At the current usage, I really doubt it. If a significant amount of people start using RSS readers as an alternative to the third party clients they were using previously, it’s a possibility.
More likely it depends if researchers of Largue Language Models (like in ChatGPT/GPT4, LLaMA, etc.) will use RSS feeds
thats at least my idea because the API pricing is so drastic and high, Reddit was one of the biggest sources of these models
The irony is that they’re breaking the ways that humans can interact with the site, but leaving many of the scraper-friendly options.
It will depends on what traffic looks like in the first week of July. If the traffic in the official apps and web dips too much then they will have to hang on to everything that drives any traffic.
About 90% of my visits to reddit are via RSS (to read comments). If they remove it, I’ll never visit except for reading my local town feed.
Probably, but you will likely be able to use RSS Bridge to get an RSS feed anyway. Not very convenient though
Yes.
TIL reddit has RSS feeds. Welp, I’ll see if I can use it to plug in my favorites until they cut it for ‘profit-seeking measures’ and ‘loosing 200 billion dollars a year’
it’s spez. He’ll say they’re losing 200 trillion a year.