The Chrome team has since added new features in response and is ready to disable old Manifest V2 extensions in 2024...
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de
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Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior Mozilla Firefox?

Actually, yes. Firefox is good but I hate the UI. Okay, Brave seems nice. Love the UI, sync feels slow, and why can I not move the top bar to the bottom on mobile??? Phones are BIG. Don’t make it harder for me to use your product. Okay, there is Vivaldi, king of customisability. Nice, but feels slow. Back to Firefox. Still hate UI. And now wanting a better new tab page. Proceed to discover Tabliss for a good new tab page, and Firefox-UI-Fix on github to give me a better UI on Firefox desktop. Wow, problems solved. I’m sticking to Firefox forever (unless I decide to switch to Librewolf where I can still implement all the same fixes as on Firefox).

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Yeah, but I’m on firefox and I’m happy. I have basically 0 issues. If I was on Brave, I would have still had to worry about disabling the crypto crap as well.

@ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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Firefox UI is controlled by CSS

Just find a UI you like and add it in

Floorp is Firefox with Vivaldi-style tweaks. Part of it is what Firefox really should be right now.

If you’re a minimalist, I can vouch for Pulse Browser, with sidebar tabs (native to Pulse, similar to Edge) and Simple Tab Groups, it’s great.

Okay, I will check out Floorp. That project seems really interesting.

@astromd@beehaw.org
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I’ll consider Firefox when they have extension support on iOS, like Orion does.

@Blisterexe@lemmy.zip
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See, the fact they don’t is apples fault, their play store guidelines make it impossible for Firefox to add extensions

@astromd@beehaw.org
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Nope. Orion does this today.

@ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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App Store requires all web access be rendered in safari

Any browser you get on IOS is Safari and so you are right that they could have extensions but it would be impossible for their old extensions to match up/everything has to be rewritten

@Blisterexe@lemmy.zip
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Couldn’t have said it better myself, thank you

@ColdWater@lemmy.ca
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That’s Apple’s fault for not allowing other browser engine

@Blackmist@feddit.uk
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Good luck with that. All browsing on iOS is Safari, so likely all the FF extensions would need to be remade from scratch.

Firefox opening the gates for addons on mobile is some really good timing.

@PeWu@lemmy.ml
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They really come in clutch with that upgrade. Some people are already drooling for that feature (including me)

@yum13241@lemm.ee
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Use nightly.

use iceraven

Another Catgirl
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iceraven works on Android?

ye i use it

Engywuck
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Nope. Many Chromium forks already have very good inbuilt adblockers , which won’t be affected by the MV3 stuff. On top of that, one could also use system-wide blockers such as AdGuard and DNS-level blockers (which is not even a bad idea if you’re on Windows anyway).

Engywuck
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LOl @downvotes from delusional and desperate Mozilla’s shills

@Cossty@lemmy.world
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As far as I know most inbuilt adblockers, don’t work very well. Especially with yt. Everytime yt does something, you would probably have to wait for new version of your browser, and even then it is questionable if it would work. With ublock origin you just click on one button and you are good to go. If somebody doesn’t know, I’m talking about refreshing your filters.

Engywuck
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I’m yet to see any ad since I’ve started using Brave. Din know about YouTube, I don’t use it.

@bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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Why would you want to use some Google-coded, bigoted-ceo, crypto-pushing, link hijacking POS like Brave?

Engywuck
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Because it’s simply a better browser.

@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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Brave adblock is just a fork of uBlock with a whitelist for Brave’s partners.

Engywuck
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It works. Enough for me not to bother with anything else.

@ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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That’s fine but you should understand that you shouldn’t endorse an inferior product just because you don’t need anything better

@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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Okey dokey mate

body_by_make
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You can continue to cope or you can upgrade to a real browser.

Engywuck
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I already upgraded to Brave years ago. Thanks. And fuck Mozilla.

@Baku@aussie.zone
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Why you got beef with Mozi? They chill

Engywuck
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Yeah, no. Too much disregard for the community and useless political crap, apart from hypocrisy on their fake anti-Google stance.

@Kichae@lemmy.ca
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useless political crap

Meanwhile: Uses Brave

Engywuck
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Such an ignorant and bad faith statement I won’t even bother to reply.

says won’t bother to reply

replies anyway

@pimento64@sopuli.xyz
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^ This statement is an outright admission that they’re right.

Kumatomic
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Yet you did.

They said in their reply.

Are you for real? Everything you said reads like a tech bro caricature

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Brave is wrapped up in so much controversy it feels like you’re trolling that you called it a real browser. You’re trolling, right? Have fun with your brave sponsored ads and crypto bullshit. Also you’re still being lead by Google, but I guess that’s okay because it’s in a pretty wrapper.

pOliTiCaL

Would you care to explain to the class?

@SatyrSack@lemmy.one
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They donate a lot to political campaigns that have nothing to do with technology or anything relevant. I use and love Firefox, but this is definitely questionable

https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-investigating-the-bizarre-finances-of-mozilla

that article reads like if my 8 year old nephew read thru my tax return. But no matter how mozilla spend their money, Google are spending money their money on much more questionable and unethical things.

trevor
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Lunduke 🤡

Brave isn’t any better of an option with all the controversies they’ve had.

@Platform27@lemmy.ml
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If anything, they’re worse.

  1. Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them. Forcing over people and companies into their system.
  2. They’re heavily in the blockchain ecosystem, with their own worthless crypto.
  3. They take from open source projects (uBlock, Chromium, etc), but threaten legal action when someone forks them.
  4. They install bloat/spyware on your Windows system (later claimed it was a mistake).
  5. Brave, and its CEO is right-wing, lobbying against things like same-sex marriage.

I could go on.

Kumatomic
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Don’t forget the worst most condescending people working for Brave. I actually had one of their people antagonize me on social media years ago for not liking their invasive homepage at the time.

Ahri Boy
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And also don’t forget Gab forked out Brave to create Dissenter.

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  1. Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them.

So like very other ad company.

Forcing over people and companies into their system.

[citation needed]

  1. The crypto stuff is opt-in.
  2. [citation needed] I’m talking about the legal action stuff. Fun fact, Gab made a Brave fork called Dissenter. Nothing happened to them.
  3. Yeah, Brave VPN is BS.
  4. About Brendan Eich, I can’t see nothing about his beliefs reflecting in his work. Looks like he kept them separated. Also he’s a co-founder of Mozilla. So if you’re not going to use Brave because of him. How can you use Firefox? About Brave lobbying against things like same-sex marriage. Will, [citation needed].

If you need Chromium browser. Just use ungoogled-chromium, Windows version.

wagesj45
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You mean Chromium Brave Edition?

@DrQuint@lemm.ee
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Man’s 3 poignant inquiries away from peddling Brave. Tread carefully folks.

@pimento64@sopuli.xyz
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Bravecels are all the same, maybe they get two extra shitcoins every time they shill for it.

They even admit that their attention is basic

WDX
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Lmao you were right

System wide ad blockers can’t block a lot of ads, namely same-domain ads or those that are built into the html. Much rarer than the external page kind (DNS ones) thankfully.

@jherazob@beehaw.org
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Namely, Youtube ads

Engywuck
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AFAIK, AdGuard can block same domain ads. I’m not talking about AdGuard DNS, I’m talking about AdGuard app/program.

@agame@lemm.ee
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For how long?

Engywuck
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As long as these browsers themselves exist. Inbuilt adblockers aren’t extension, are integral parts of the browsers, and don’t need to follow extensions’ rules.

@WallEx@feddit.de
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Yeah surel, I’ll use the inadequate browser but fox the problems with system wide ad blockers, instead of just using a browser, that doesn’t steal my data and let’s me install addons that I want. Google is way out of bounds here imho.

Engywuck
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Use whatever suits you. I’m just saying that people already using browsers with a built-in AdBlock aren’t going to switch, because they won’t even notice the MV3 stuff.

@WallEx@feddit.de
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Aren’t all those ad blockers and distribution platforms too? Heard about ABP that sell ad space for example.

Engywuck
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IIRC, ABP used to whiteliste some “acceptable” ads (non invasive, etc…). Frankly, it’s been literally ages since I have used it, so I don’t know how they behave right now. I was referring to AdGuard as a system-wide adblocker, though, which is a completely different story.

@WallEx@feddit.de
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Right, thanks for the clarification.

@Blackmist@feddit.uk
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Moved to Firefox a while ago, specifically because of Manifest V3.

The only issue I’ve found so far is that you can’t log in to PSN on it. Just locks the browser completely and you need to kill it in task manager. Apparently it’s to do with password saving.

@froh42@lemmy.world
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Hmm, I’m using PSN from FF. Problem with am extension, maybe?

@Blackmist@feddit.uk
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Apparently it’s to do with cloud password saving.

get brave exclusively for psn?

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