My gf and I have had discussions about teaching morals to kids. In that vein, I asked myself, would I teach piracy to my kids? Yes, it’s technically illegal and carries inherent risks. But so does teenage sex carry the risks of teenage pregnancy, and so we have an obligation to children to teach them how to practice safe sex. So, is it necessary to teach them how to stay safe in the sea? How to install adblockers, how to detect fake download sites that give you computer aids? Show them how to use a VPN and choosing the right one (a true pirate must always choose a VPN with port forwarding capabilities, so you can still seed) I feel like this is all valuable info we all learned as pirates the hard way, and valuable information to pass on to our kids.
I definitely want my kids to know about libgen. Want a book you want to read about? Wanna learn about dinosaurs from a college level textbook for whatever reason? Just go to libgen, son!
And I attribute most of my computer literacy and education to piracy, trying to install cracks to various games, trying to make games work, and modding the fuck out of skyrim as a young teenager. That, and also jailbreaking android phones. All the interesting things i’ve ever done with computers was probably against some BS terms of service.
So, is piracy something you would actively teach your kids? Sit them down and teach them how to install a Fallout 3 FitGirl repack? Or is this something you’d want them to figure out themselves?
you’re better off teaching your kids how some things work, what might be safe to do online and what might be less safe, what possible implications for right holders and creators there might be if you pirate (and that those right holders and creators are often not the same people). Teach them to think for themselves if it’s worse to pirate a 35 yo movie you can’t find on dvd anymore, or a brand new movie that’s still showing in the local cinema. All of this is better than just telling kids “piracy is bad mmmkay!” and then letting them roam free so they start pointing and clicking utter bullshit and using a virus infested os.
Tldr: educate children, talking about piracy is part of it.
If the way you navigate online life is based on your reflections regarding safety, convenience (and anticorporate, possible anticapitalist sentiment), why not pass your advice on? It might save your kids from getting caught pirating.
How to install adblockers, how to detect fake download sites that give you computer aids? Show them how to use a VPN and choosing the right one (a true pirate must always choose a VPN with port forwarding capabilities, so you can still seed) I feel like this is all valuable info we all learned as pirates the hard way, and valuable information to pass on to our kids.
Absolutely, I would say whether you’re teaching piracy or not, those are essential things that everyone online must know about; it would be unethical to allow your kids to go online without that protection.
Remember how many years ago antiviruses kept track of such types of malware as adware and spyware? When did you last see that kind of alert when seeing ad filled pages or when using software from facebook on your computer?
Antiviruses don’t worth shit today. Their only purpose is to delete your keygens on the basis that kEyGeNs ArE mOrE lIkElY tO hAvE a ViRuS.
It’s not as though the existence and mechanisms of piracy are a coveted secret. There’s a decent chance that they’ll learn about and attempt it independently, and the method they learn about online might expose them to greater risk than if they did it with more consideration.
On that basis, I think that knowledge transfer is at worst harm reduction. If it’s immoral, which I don’t believe it is, then at the very least your intervention could prevent them from being preyed upon by some copyright troll company when they do it despite your silence or protestations.
You can teach ppl stuff all you want, but what they really need, is to learn how to figure it out themselves. Otherwise, when the best practices you teach them become obsolete, they won’t be able to create their own.
Doesn’t sound like an easy task, perhaps a good start would be teaching them how to tie knots and learn wind direction. Once they are old enough to travel book a vacation to somalia and introduce them to the place, that’s where most of piracy is going on these days
Absolutely. My entire network is behind a VPN, so they can’t fuck up. Windows is banned in my household, so I’m not worried about malware. I’m not paying 20 bucks a month for limited access to the ever shrinking Netflix library, which I can’t even use behind a VPN or share with other people. Piracy is the only way forward.
Windows is banned in my household, so l’m not worried about malware.
This is a false sense of security and just because you’re not running Windows doesn’t mean you’re immune to everything and can let your defenses down. For example, KDE recently had to announce that downloading themes will execute arbitrary code and cited someone who had personal information deleted because of downloading a theme.
I knew I would get a comment about this. Yes, I absolutely know that Linux is not at all immune to malware, but the chances of finding Linux malware on a typical piracy website are very low. That’s why Anti-virus is unecessary on Linux.
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My mom introduced me to Napster. So at this point, it would be a family tradition.
Don’t. They’ll learn anyways. You’re gonna deprive them of the joy of learning to pirate (lol)
Seriously, teaching how to pirate is not what parents should do
you’re better off teaching your kids how some things work, what might be safe to do online and what might be less safe, what possible implications for right holders and creators there might be if you pirate (and that those right holders and creators are often not the same people). Teach them to think for themselves if it’s worse to pirate a 35 yo movie you can’t find on dvd anymore, or a brand new movie that’s still showing in the local cinema. All of this is better than just telling kids “piracy is bad mmmkay!” and then letting them roam free so they start pointing and clicking utter bullshit and using a virus infested os.
Tldr: educate children, talking about piracy is part of it.
Teach them how to root a device or at least do a grapheneos install. I’ll be honest I only know the latter.
And yes, teach them both piracy and emulation
Rooting isn’t recommended anyway, it completely destroys Android security. GrapheneOS is the best solution.
Didntbsay anything about security. But rooting is a good skill I want to learn
It varies depending on the manufacturer and model, though.
I taught my nephew and I wouldn’t see a moral problem on teaching my hypothetical kids how to.
If the way you navigate online life is based on your reflections regarding safety, convenience (and anticorporate, possible anticapitalist sentiment), why not pass your advice on? It might save your kids from getting caught pirating.
Absolutely, I would say whether you’re teaching piracy or not, those are essential things that everyone online must know about; it would be unethical to allow your kids to go online without that protection.
Teaching how to do it safely might save their ass. And your own if they pirate at home.
Remember how many years ago antiviruses kept track of such types of malware as adware and spyware? When did you last see that kind of alert when seeing ad filled pages or when using software from facebook on your computer?
Antiviruses don’t worth shit today. Their only purpose is to delete your keygens on the basis that kEyGeNs ArE mOrE lIkElY tO hAvE a ViRuS.
Piracy is just staying over at a friend’s house.
It’s not as though the existence and mechanisms of piracy are a coveted secret. There’s a decent chance that they’ll learn about and attempt it independently, and the method they learn about online might expose them to greater risk than if they did it with more consideration.
On that basis, I think that knowledge transfer is at worst harm reduction. If it’s immoral, which I don’t believe it is, then at the very least your intervention could prevent them from being preyed upon by some copyright troll company when they do it despite your silence or protestations.
Look here Junior in this family we practice safe piracy like God intended using VPN and a seedbox paid using bitcoin!
Let me start by showing you how to compile a kernel that supports WireGuard.
It’s not the result, but the process.
You can teach ppl stuff all you want, but what they really need, is to learn how to figure it out themselves. Otherwise, when the best practices you teach them become obsolete, they won’t be able to create their own.
Of course, if I didn’t they might end up using a public tracker to download torrents
Absolutely. If I had any
Doesn’t sound like an easy task, perhaps a good start would be teaching them how to tie knots and learn wind direction. Once they are old enough to travel book a vacation to somalia and introduce them to the place, that’s where most of piracy is going on these days
No. I plan on treating it as other adult things. "Oh, you got into this? Well, here is how you protect yourself. "
Computer literacy wise? I hope my daughter gets the curiosity into it. Other things as well. More you know and understand, the better.
Absolutely. My entire network is behind a VPN, so they can’t fuck up. Windows is banned in my household, so I’m not worried about malware. I’m not paying 20 bucks a month for limited access to the ever shrinking Netflix library, which I can’t even use behind a VPN or share with other people. Piracy is the only way forward.
This is a false sense of security and just because you’re not running Windows doesn’t mean you’re immune to everything and can let your defenses down. For example, KDE recently had to announce that downloading themes will execute arbitrary code and cited someone who had personal information deleted because of downloading a theme.
in regards to privacy using something like windows already has you fucked up. As opposed to something like using KDE which might rm -rf your system.
well its a step up at least…
Exactly, like how an ocean liner is a step up above a sailboat. That doesn’t mean you’re unsinkable and don’t need to worry about icebergs.
TempleOS! You will never find malware for that holy OS
I knew I would get a comment about this. Yes, I absolutely know that Linux is not at all immune to malware, but the chances of finding Linux malware on a typical piracy website are very low. That’s why Anti-virus is unecessary on Linux.
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Bro, I’ve started saying this line not that long ago, are we in a hive-mind?