LGBTQ Republicans say they feel misled by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) after the GOP presidential hopeful’s “war room” shared a bizarre video widely seen as inflammatory. The video bashed former P…
It’s so bleak because I can understand the survival instinct to cling to and adopt the opinions of the group that wants you dead in the hopes that they’ll spare you, or that you’ll be able to preserve your relationships. But people like this do almost more damage than the ones they’re doing the dirty work for. Especially the famous ones. Some of them have actively made a career our of lending credibility to bigotry. I can’t help but notice how none of them seem to have fully denounced the party or its positions, or gone back on any of their previous statements.
Have you heard of the Ash conformity experiments? About 75% of the test subjects gave incorrect answers knowingly, because the rest of the group disagreed. 3 people were enough to trigger such a response…
Conversely, being a lone beacon of truth and rationality has gotten people killed before, like Socrates. Or like how the few who opposed the Iraq war before we knew it was based on lies were branded as cowards and traitors.
Agreed, it says a lot about the current political climate.
I recently read a letter by Dietrich Bonnhoefer, who was a German Lutheran pastor and anti-Nazi dissident, who was imprisoned in 1943, hanged by Hitler’s personal directive in April 1945.
His letter is titled “On Stupidity” and it explains A LOT about the same phenomenon.
the anti-LGBTQ agenda was pretty overt, what did they think they were getting? do they know who DeSantis is? I’m convinced these people either don’t exist or are some of the dumbest people on the planet.
“I used to think he was a great governor,” Santos, the first non-incumbent gay Republican elected to Congress, said of DeSantis. “Now, I’m starting to think differently.”
The Hill quoting the NY Republican Senator and chronic liar George Santos takes the cake.
Off-topic, but wow, what a spaghetti bowl of adjectives that first sentence is. What does “first non -incumbent gay Republican elected” even mean as a string of qualifiers? I can just about parse it, but the phrasing makes it read as though all the incumbent gay Republicans before him were straight when they won their first elections, instead of just closeted.
Happens a lot. Just like for women or PoC, the idea is if you can fully integrate and be a loyal party member, you can reap the benefits as “one of the good ones.” FD Signifier has a great video about black conservatives in US politics. Problem is, conservatives look for enemies inward once the exterior ones are eliminated.
Same thing happens in the Jewish community. My father is a Republican and believes that Republicans support Jews because “they support Israel.” He doesn’t see that the only reasons that Republicans support Israel are because:
The evangelicals want Israel to exist and be run by Jews so it can be attacked and Jesus can return.
And
So the right has a place to say Jews really belong (not in America).
They’ll “support Israel” all day and night while actively pushing for a Christian Theocracy in America where Jews are (at best) second class citizens.
AKA, “my tax rate is more important to me than the survival of myself and my immediate family.”
And even then, 9 times out of 10, it’s not even their tax rate that is being lowered (or if it is, marginally, it’s set to sunset in a few years while the cuts for corporations and the uber wealthy are permanent).
“LGBTQ conservatives” is a descriptor for selfish, willfully ignorant people who are happy to burn their own community to the ground if it means they have a chance at being the bully that GOP ideals promise they can be
Assimilationism never fucking works. People who want people like you dead will never see you as “one of the good ones.” You will never be anything more than a tool for them to wield against others
If you feel like you were mislead by DeSantis, then you weren’t paying attention. He’s been extremely explicit about his stances
Any LGBTQ person marching to the goose step of the Nazis that is surprised the Nazis turn on them is repeating the same mistake Jewish kapos made in the concentration camps. “Surely the Germans will see my value, keeping the other Jews in line,” says the Jewish kapo every day until he is burned up in the gas chamber—replaced by another kapo who thinks the same. Educate yourself on history so you don’t end up doomed to repeat it.
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and the funniest part of it all is that they did it to themselves. morons.
It’s so bleak because I can understand the survival instinct to cling to and adopt the opinions of the group that wants you dead in the hopes that they’ll spare you, or that you’ll be able to preserve your relationships. But people like this do almost more damage than the ones they’re doing the dirty work for. Especially the famous ones. Some of them have actively made a career our of lending credibility to bigotry. I can’t help but notice how none of them seem to have fully denounced the party or its positions, or gone back on any of their previous statements.
Have you heard of the Ash conformity experiments? About 75% of the test subjects gave incorrect answers knowingly, because the rest of the group disagreed. 3 people were enough to trigger such a response…
This fascinates me. Kind of terrifying how vulnerable humans are to the need for group acceptance.
Conversely, being a lone beacon of truth and rationality has gotten people killed before, like Socrates. Or like how the few who opposed the Iraq war before we knew it was based on lies were branded as cowards and traitors.
There is value in conforming.
Agreed, it says a lot about the current political climate.
I recently read a letter by Dietrich Bonnhoefer, who was a German Lutheran pastor and anti-Nazi dissident, who was imprisoned in 1943, hanged by Hitler’s personal directive in April 1945.
His letter is titled “On Stupidity” and it explains A LOT about the same phenomenon.
the anti-LGBTQ agenda was pretty overt, what did they think they were getting? do they know who DeSantis is? I’m convinced these people either don’t exist or are some of the dumbest people on the planet.
Not to be an asshole but I feel like he’s been crystal clear the entire time about his anti-LGBTQ crusade.
The Hill quoting the NY Republican Senator and chronic liar George Santos takes the cake.
Off-topic, but wow, what a spaghetti bowl of adjectives that first sentence is. What does “first non -incumbent gay Republican elected” even mean as a string of qualifiers? I can just about parse it, but the phrasing makes it read as though all the incumbent gay Republicans before him were straight when they won their first elections, instead of just closeted.
Also, with this guy, any of those qualifiers could be a complete fabrication. Why does anyone in the media take anything this dude says seriously?
TIL there are LGBTQ conservatives 🤯
Anyways, lmao
Happens a lot. Just like for women or PoC, the idea is if you can fully integrate and be a loyal party member, you can reap the benefits as “one of the good ones.” FD Signifier has a great video about black conservatives in US politics. Problem is, conservatives look for enemies inward once the exterior ones are eliminated.
Same thing happens in the Jewish community. My father is a Republican and believes that Republicans support Jews because “they support Israel.” He doesn’t see that the only reasons that Republicans support Israel are because:
And
They’ll “support Israel” all day and night while actively pushing for a Christian Theocracy in America where Jews are (at best) second class citizens.
AKA, “my tax rate is more important to me than the survival of myself and my immediate family.”
And even then, 9 times out of 10, it’s not even their tax rate that is being lowered (or if it is, marginally, it’s set to sunset in a few years while the cuts for corporations and the uber wealthy are permanent).
“LGBTQ conservatives” is a descriptor for selfish, willfully ignorant people who are happy to burn their own community to the ground if it means they have a chance at being the bully that GOP ideals promise they can be
Assimilationism never fucking works. People who want people like you dead will never see you as “one of the good ones.” You will never be anything more than a tool for them to wield against others
If you feel like you were mislead by DeSantis, then you weren’t paying attention. He’s been extremely explicit about his stances
Leopards, faces, etc.
“The leopards surely won’t eat my face.”
Any LGBTQ person marching to the goose step of the Nazis that is surprised the Nazis turn on them is repeating the same mistake Jewish kapos made in the concentration camps. “Surely the Germans will see my value, keeping the other Jews in line,” says the Jewish kapo every day until he is burned up in the gas chamber—replaced by another kapo who thinks the same. Educate yourself on history so you don’t end up doomed to repeat it.
Not like DiSatan has been shy about it or anything. I do hope he gets his ass kicked in all directions in the next election cycle.
gasp I can’t believe it, queer people being misled by people who explicitly want them to not exist?!?
You can’t be misled when his hatred for LGBTQ+ folks has been front and centre for his entire campaign.
“I really thought that the leopards would eat other people’s faces, not mine.”
“LGBTQ conservatives.” How fucking stupid and self-loathing do you need to be, Jesus Christ.
Sadly the pickme mindset is not limited to gender.
I love how the Log Cabin Republicans were bitching about how that propaganda video “ventured into homophobia”
Like, guys, he’s been homophobic for a while now and that video slammed through homophobia and straight into fascism.
Queer conservatives lack basic survival instincts, too…