6 servers were decomissioned, Iwas able to only get the disks, RAM, CPUs and Network Card.
The total of this is :
88 x 8TB SAS disks
44 x 16GB RAM sticks (half 2133, half 2400)
6 x v3 Xeon e3 2630
6 x v4 Xeon e5 2640
3 x 10 GB PCIe dual port cards
12 x 1U heatsink
I’m really lucky to have all of these, even if I don’t have a use for all of that for now (except some of the disks)
EDIT: Forgot to mention: All of this for free, I work in a datacenter!
Yeah does anyone else wonder if this screams of incompetence from upper management? OP was ONLY able to get the disks, RAM, CPUs and Network Card. Sounds like someone higher up gave the “ok” just thinking the “Server” frame was the important part security wise. It would be an interesting scenario to see if the data center was able to upgrade the system while keeping all of the base components compatible and everything under cost or if this was just a screw up.
For security, yes, your word is not enough. This would be confidentiality in the CIA triad. I still understand your disappointment seeing probably many dozens of drives get destroyed. I get the majority of drives by scrapping old PC and it pains me to see what people will throw out.
And it’s not like you’re going to reuse the drives internally - if you were, there’s no issue - reformat and move on. But that doesn’t really happen either - each project has accounting, and it’s more effort to adjust the accounting, plus the risk of moving a used drive.
Risk really drives a lot of enterprise stuff. Good way to lose your job is to accept risks, especially ones like this that can be completely mitigated by simply destroying drives. That money has been amortized/allocated already, so it’s a much better value than the risk.
My Jellyfin is also running media from recycled HDDs from work. No where near this impressive haul, but it was nice to be able to get a solid 10 TBs for free to get my server going.
Do you think it’s possible for old decommissioned drives to be donated in a compliant manner?
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ISO/IEC 27001 is an international standard to manage information security. … It details requirements for establishing, implementing, maintaining and continually improving an information security management system (ISMS) – the aim of which is to help organizations make the information assets they hold more secure. Organizations that meet the standard’s requirements can choose to be certified by an accredited certification body following successful completion of an audit.
It certainly is. ISO 27001 is a framework, not very prescriptive at all. Basically an auditor will ask “how do you ensure data isn’t leaving your facility in the form of discarded hardware?” If you say “here’s a link to our media destruction policy. It says all drives are wiped according to NIST 800-88 cryptographic erasure. If that is not possible or not applicable, the drive is destroyed. Here’s our log of decomissioned equipment” chances are very good they’ll say “OK great let’s move on to the next one” with only minor followup questions.
I’ve found the disks hurt my power less than choosing a good motherboard/cpu, and using M2 for the OS drive.
Using it drives up power. At idle, my latest 5-drive setup draws 20 watts, it goes up when I’m copying files to it (usually syncing media files from 2 other local storages).
Compared to my old system which was an ancient gaming rig that drew 120w at idle, with only 2 drives (OS and storage).
I also have a 5 disk NAS running some old drives, it’s idle power is so low I’ve forgotten - maybe 15w? The most it could potentially draw is about 60w, since that’s the power supply max - I’ve seen it draw 45w while rebuilding a disk.
It’s a mix of crap I’ve acquired over the years, all 1TB drives, 3.5",most 5-10 years old, in an old Drobo I inherited. Yea, it’s a massive risk, but it’s one of 3 storage systems replicating data locally, plus a Crashplan backup.
Since it’s 5 drives, I’m pretty sure it spins them down - at best if they drew 3w each, it’d be 15w in drives alone.
Running it on a smart switch, I’ve never seen it draw more than 30w, and that’s at boot time with 5 drives.
My 3-drive Proxmox box (a Dell SFF) drives are a mix of spinning metal and SSD (2.5"), it idles about 20w, peaks at 100w when I’m converting video files with a VM. That hardware is about 5 years old too, 32gb of ram, booting from an M2 drive.
My use-case is very high idle time (95%+?), so I’m targeting lowest idle power consumption. Pretty much anything will suck power once I’m doing anything heavy (like video conversion).
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I also work in a data center, I can’t take anything :(
We have a hard drive degausser and shredder. Lucky bastard taking things home
Yeah does anyone else wonder if this screams of incompetence from upper management? OP was ONLY able to get the disks, RAM, CPUs and Network Card. Sounds like someone higher up gave the “ok” just thinking the “Server” frame was the important part security wise. It would be an interesting scenario to see if the data center was able to upgrade the system while keeping all of the base components compatible and everything under cost or if this was just a screw up.
Yep yep, same. Old droves get destroyed. My word that I’ll wipe the drive is apparently not enough.
Gotta issue them a NIST 800-88 certificate and you’re golden.
For security, yes, your word is not enough. This would be confidentiality in the CIA triad. I still understand your disappointment seeing probably many dozens of drives get destroyed. I get the majority of drives by scrapping old PC and it pains me to see what people will throw out.
TIL
Having a reliable drive erasing setup on site is not a thing? That sounds economically better to me
It’s not as secure as simply destroying a drive.
And it’s not like you’re going to reuse the drives internally - if you were, there’s no issue - reformat and move on. But that doesn’t really happen either - each project has accounting, and it’s more effort to adjust the accounting, plus the risk of moving a used drive.
Risk really drives a lot of enterprise stuff. Good way to lose your job is to accept risks, especially ones like this that can be completely mitigated by simply destroying drives. That money has been amortized/allocated already, so it’s a much better value than the risk.
Oh damn. In I was happy 20 years ago about two jet engine like coolers, which ran on 230VAC from a decommissioned computer tomograph
I thought disks were suppose to be destroyed
Depends on the data on them. They were erased before I got them of course too.
With great power…
…bill?
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“IP” in this context would be “intellectual property”
Holy shit, I know where to apply for a job next time 😅
Damn so jelly… fin
If you’d like to sell a couple of drivers and you’re in Europe, contact me.
You lucky bastard, respectfully.
You mean fucking sonobabich right? Respectfully ofcourse.
That mother fucker! respectfully as fuck.
Hey it’s me ur brother…
88 x 8TB drives? 704 TB of storage?
You got a whole damn data center lol. Good stuff dude. Was this off of ebay or direct from a company? I’m curious to know the total cost.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention: All of this for free at my work, I work in a datacenter!
My Jellyfin is also running media from recycled HDDs from work. No where near this impressive haul, but it was nice to be able to get a solid 10 TBs for free to get my server going.
My server got updated a lot, starting with a single 1 TB disk, the a single 4TB disk, to 6 4tb disks and now it will be 10 8TB disks
Well now im very jealous lol. Good for you man, thats a banger deal.
Somewhere, an ISO27001 auditor’s jimmies started rustling.
Do you think it’s possible for old decommissioned drives to be donated in a compliant manner?
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Absolutely, and it’s usually up to the organization disposing of the drives to set and document the standard by which they abide.
Thanks :)
It certainly is. ISO 27001 is a framework, not very prescriptive at all. Basically an auditor will ask “how do you ensure data isn’t leaving your facility in the form of discarded hardware?” If you say “here’s a link to our media destruction policy. It says all drives are wiped according to NIST 800-88 cryptographic erasure. If that is not possible or not applicable, the drive is destroyed. Here’s our log of decomissioned equipment” chances are very good they’ll say “OK great let’s move on to the next one” with only minor followup questions.
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I recognize there’s a likelihood you are usually being paid for answers like that. Thank you for satisfying my curiosity for free :)
That, is a pretty good deal. Better start picking up some MD1200s!
I have my eyes on some fiber channel stuff that got decomissionned, I’ll probably try something with that
Sheeeeeiiiiiitt
God damn I’m jealous.
Me too. I thought these would be a bunch of 1TB HDDs but OP blew us away with them being 8TB.
Honestly, 88 1TB drives would make me envious too.
I’m not, but I am envious. Happy for OP though.
I’ve been jealous of people, same as you, now it’s my turn to shine! Your turn will come!
All in the game.
I assume they’re past some operational limit. But as long as you have redundancy that’s a risk I’d take for the capacity
With 88 disks, some RAID 5 I think I’m going to be okey if one of them fails! (I also have a backup server)
I mean if you wanna spare 2 or 3 I know a guy
come and get them!
Hard to tell if this is a proposal to fight over hardware or an offer for free stuff.
I choose to believe the former because it makes me chuckle more.
Let’s just make an arena where the nerds fight to win a disk!
“Ugh, now they’re both crying…” Covers microphone “Someone hit somebody! God, in my 13 years of UFC announcing, I’ve never been more embarrassed…”
“What is this one doing??? Is he… what’s this weird Arch logo on his laptop”
Where are you located? I’m in need of some new backup drives and would be happy to pay a reasonable price + shipping if you’re interested.
I’m in France, however I’ll not sell them immediately, maybe you could check serverpartsdeals to get some cheap refurbished drives
I happen to be in France this summer :P
But I should probably get my backup server set up before that…
Hope you have fun with those drives!
Go RAID 6 and save some disks for backups.
The RAID rebuild time is going to be longer than the OEM warranty… love it!
While thats an awesome pile of storage, I weep for your electricity bill.
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Where do you live that power is so cheap that you can spin that much rust and also can you run extension lead to my place?
How much (ballpark) power is this using a day or month?
I’ve found the disks hurt my power less than choosing a good motherboard/cpu, and using M2 for the OS drive.
Using it drives up power. At idle, my latest 5-drive setup draws 20 watts, it goes up when I’m copying files to it (usually syncing media files from 2 other local storages).
Compared to my old system which was an ancient gaming rig that drew 120w at idle, with only 2 drives (OS and storage).
I also have a 5 disk NAS running some old drives, it’s idle power is so low I’ve forgotten - maybe 15w? The most it could potentially draw is about 60w, since that’s the power supply max - I’ve seen it draw 45w while rebuilding a disk.
That’s super low. What drives do you have? Are your drives spinning down?
It’s a mix of crap I’ve acquired over the years, all 1TB drives, 3.5",most 5-10 years old, in an old Drobo I inherited. Yea, it’s a massive risk, but it’s one of 3 storage systems replicating data locally, plus a Crashplan backup.
Since it’s 5 drives, I’m pretty sure it spins them down - at best if they drew 3w each, it’d be 15w in drives alone.
Running it on a smart switch, I’ve never seen it draw more than 30w, and that’s at boot time with 5 drives.
My 3-drive Proxmox box (a Dell SFF) drives are a mix of spinning metal and SSD (2.5"), it idles about 20w, peaks at 100w when I’m converting video files with a VM. That hardware is about 5 years old too, 32gb of ram, booting from an M2 drive.
My use-case is very high idle time (95%+?), so I’m targeting lowest idle power consumption. Pretty much anything will suck power once I’m doing anything heavy (like video conversion).