I remember your post. How is that not related? And also lemmy is so small where else should we post? I messaged them for my post and they never responded
instances/hubs/rpcs cannot block a user account or community
Why would I want that? That sounds genuinely awful.
Edit - And the plebbit homepage talks about making a 4chan equivalent, and along with this post, there are pepe images everywhere. No thanks. Plebbit can fuck right off
Hadn’t heard of it before. But based on the cheesy meme, how desperate this post sounds, and the fact that the platform seems like a chan imposter, I’ll pretend like I still haven’t heard of it.
I think a peer to peer model could work for social media, but if you’re trying to sell it using a pepe meme, I’m not interested…
But fundamentally… Why not implement what you’re thinking ontop of ActivityPub or ATProto than rolling your own thing? None of the issues you’ve described facing them are particularly insurmountable. They just need a bit of devwork.
The similarities to Lemmy are substantial, it’s just not on activitypub, but rather its own pubsub thing. If you want to host data, you still have to keep a node running at all times, it’s not the case that “there are no instances”. Those instances can moderate the content, so it’s not the case that “there’s no moderation.” The whitepaper mentions that “its possible to delegate running a client to a centralized server…” rather than having to have a fat syncing client running on your own machine … in lemmy, it’s more like “its possible to run your own node if you want”. Plebbit doesn’t care about maintaining history of posts, it expects that servers will go down over time, and the data will be lost. Lemmy is pretty similar in that regard too, if all instances hosting the data go down, then it’s lost. The expected outcome is that there’s a handful of big nodes, as is the typical result of this form of “decentralization” - same as Lemmy, Email
Ultimately, I don’t see Plebbit doing anything particularly smarter/better, and having private/public key cryptography involved doesn’t really matter. They talk about blockchains and using coins as anti-spam mechanisms, but I don’t see why that’s relevant to the implementation
Eyy, someone who actually reads! Last time a post like this popped up it was like arguing with someone who was just reading of a list of “top 10 most popular buzzwords”
basically I was trying to think, which tech with the most adoption should decentralized/censorship resistant reddit be built on. and I thought about all the popular alternatives, mastodon/lemmy/bluesky/blockchains/etc and none of them are viable, it’s simply not possible to build a sufficiently censorship resistant platform using these protocols, it must be P2P, and the most adopted P2P protocols are IPFS/libp2p, so even 3 years later, we made the only possible choice.
even if IPFS/libp2p are pretty buggy and difficult to work with, and that bluesky/nostr/lemmy already have adoption, it’s simply not possible to build anything sufficiently censorship resistant with them, there are no choices other than the path we’ve chosen.
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We already had p2p reddit. It was called Aether. It failed due to lack of users.
This again? Stop marketing your shitty crypto scam infused lemmy rippoff
My post on using Tailscale on my servers gets removed but not this crap?
yeah, and mine about ripping dvd’s on a server, if that broke the rules wouldnt this do that more?
I remember your post. How is that not related? And also lemmy is so small where else should we post? I messaged them for my post and they never responded
What is this scam and why is it still here?
Why would I want that? That sounds genuinely awful.
Edit - And the plebbit homepage talks about making a 4chan equivalent, and along with this post, there are pepe images everywhere. No thanks. Plebbit can fuck right off
You want that if you strongly believe that your hate speech counts as free speech
Hadn’t heard of it before. But based on the cheesy meme, how desperate this post sounds, and the fact that the platform seems like a chan imposter, I’ll pretend like I still haven’t heard of it.
bullish comment, every successful project was misunderstood at the beginning
It only takes a single example of a project that presented a clear goal to prove you wrong.
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However… plebbit is just garbage, and it’s obvious
Hey mods, you can do the funniest thing right now:
I think a peer to peer model could work for social media, but if you’re trying to sell it using a pepe meme, I’m not interested…
But fundamentally… Why not implement what you’re thinking ontop of ActivityPub or ATProto than rolling your own thing? None of the issues you’ve described facing them are particularly insurmountable. They just need a bit of devwork.
Great! I was looking for a social media platform without the possibility of moderation. 🙄 /s
It’s basically 4chan and OP keeps begging people to join it
But with blockchain!
And zero moderation!
Rotten to the core
I think you’re going to have more luck with a more right wing, more immature humor, more toxic masculinity kind of crowd.
not true
Well, I took the time to read the whitepaper, and it’s yeah, pretty dumb sounding. The gist is that it’s p2p post sharing with lots of captchas & a crypto edge that it probably doesn’t need https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/eb02f20b-e787-4a02-b188-d0fcbc250ba1/pleb.tex-6d2e1bf.pdf
The similarities to Lemmy are substantial, it’s just not on activitypub, but rather its own pubsub thing. If you want to host data, you still have to keep a node running at all times, it’s not the case that “there are no instances”. Those instances can moderate the content, so it’s not the case that “there’s no moderation.” The whitepaper mentions that “its possible to delegate running a client to a centralized server…” rather than having to have a fat syncing client running on your own machine … in lemmy, it’s more like “its possible to run your own node if you want”. Plebbit doesn’t care about maintaining history of posts, it expects that servers will go down over time, and the data will be lost. Lemmy is pretty similar in that regard too, if all instances hosting the data go down, then it’s lost. The expected outcome is that there’s a handful of big nodes, as is the typical result of this form of “decentralization” - same as Lemmy, Email
Ultimately, I don’t see Plebbit doing anything particularly smarter/better, and having private/public key cryptography involved doesn’t really matter. They talk about blockchains and using coins as anti-spam mechanisms, but I don’t see why that’s relevant to the implementation
Eyy, someone who actually reads! Last time a post like this popped up it was like arguing with someone who was just reading of a list of “top 10 most popular buzzwords”
block user indeed
Nah, people need to know to stay away from this
Man this shit is cringe.
basically I was trying to think, which tech with the most adoption should decentralized/censorship resistant reddit be built on. and I thought about all the popular alternatives, mastodon/lemmy/bluesky/blockchains/etc and none of them are viable, it’s simply not possible to build a sufficiently censorship resistant platform using these protocols, it must be P2P, and the most adopted P2P protocols are IPFS/libp2p, so even 3 years later, we made the only possible choice.
even if IPFS/libp2p are pretty buggy and difficult to work with, and that bluesky/nostr/lemmy already have adoption, it’s simply not possible to build anything sufficiently censorship resistant with them, there are no choices other than the path we’ve chosen.