Yeah, I can only assume if it’s families it must be undocumented people who had already escaped to America from elsewhere and don’t want to now be separated from their children. But really the lack of context is not great.
In both cases involving people on foot, Moreland said the migrants were not dressed for the cold, Canadian temperatures.
“They did not have hats, gloves, mitts, or anything that we would normally see in a Canadian winter,” Moreland said.
“I will note in both all the incidents that I described today, both in Manitoba and Alberta, the weather was incredibly cold and ranging from -20 to -30 C without factoring in the wind chill.”
Wouldn’t be surprised if all of these people came down with some form of frostbite.
The thing I don’t understand is that they’re also clearly not dressed for the cold American winter either, it’s not like the climate cares about the border.
If they were, for instance, originally from Mexico, living in Arizona, and out of fear decided to drive as far north as possible, then get across the Canadian border in a place without roadblocks, they wouldn’t even own snow clothes. They might have originally thought they could stay in the car the whole way. Or a smuggler dumped them out of a truck in the middle of nowhere.
That’s how a family died here in Manitoba a few years ago… their “guy” dropped them off a little ways from the border for them to hoof it the rest of the way… Rcmp found them later frozen in a field. Worst part is they had an 11 year old and a baby with them.
You can start out somewhat prepared, but between where you’re running from and where you’re hoping to get, there’s a whole mini industry devoted to taking every last dime. Human traffickers will absolutely steal your shit. So many migrant workers regularly get their ID, permits and such yoinked, but those crooks will even steal the mitts off your hands. And if you’re a traumatized refugee, you’re an even easier mark.
Having friendlier borders actually makes things marginally safer for vulnerable people. Can’t have that.
Jeez that’s a heavy price to pay, but I’m happy it worked out for them. I’ve lived in Mb most of my life and wouldn’t want to pull that stunt in the middle of our winters.
I’ve been wondering with everything going on, if they will bother finishing the 5th season of Handmaids Tale, then this today; life imitates art: I wonder if these folks will seek asylum?
I think it is time to tariff the US until they get their borders under control and stop the flow of illegal immigrants, drugs, and guns across our borders!
You know it is bad when “Are you smarter than a 5th grader” only existed because “Are you smarter than a 7th grader” would be too difficult for the average person in the US to win.
Joking aside, it is really sad especially when you see the state the country is in today because of the brain drain over the last few decades leaving about 75% of the US adult population with literacy skills at or below a 6th grade level. (21% is clinically illiterate)
No, I got it, I’m just glad you guys can find it within yourself to still make jokes, while Trump is bitch slapping you for no good reason other to show everyone else in the world he’ll do it to them next. I think it all sucks man, and I feel really bad for Canada.
Bitch slapping us? Where are those doubled tariffs he threatened to levy on us if we counter tariffed the US? Only bitch here is your bitch ass leadership.
On the one hand, I feel bad because these are people running to a better world hopefully before they get deported back to a shittier one. They come north so that they aren’t sent south. (I presume that’s what’s going on here) And in that respect, I would welcome all of them.
America is a shit hole. Meanwhile, our population is stagnant because of declining birth rates, and our country absolutely loves diversity (at least on paper). Unlike America, where you’re expected to melt into one giant conglomerate “American” culture, in Canada, you enrich ours by adding yours, like a spice.
But the problem is, doing it this way out of desperation is just going to embolden our own Maple MAGA fuckwits to become even bigger assholes because their IS a cost of living crisis, and we do have an immigration problem that needs to be addressed as well.
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it should be noted that the ‘1 dead’ was by suicide after their vehicle was disabled and they fled on foot.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-emerson-rcmp-crossings-1.7451655
They didn’t say suicide or “shot himself” in the other article, so I initially thought it was an accident. But then I realized, and it made me sad.
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Interesting. I’d hoped they would have more details about motives and how unusual this is country-wide, though. :/
No context?
Hmm
Just how the incidents went down and that the info came from an RCMP press conference.
Yeah, I can only assume if it’s families it must be undocumented people who had already escaped to America from elsewhere and don’t want to now be separated from their children. But really the lack of context is not great.
Wouldn’t be surprised if all of these people came down with some form of frostbite.
The thing I don’t understand is that they’re also clearly not dressed for the cold American winter either, it’s not like the climate cares about the border.
If they were, for instance, originally from Mexico, living in Arizona, and out of fear decided to drive as far north as possible, then get across the Canadian border in a place without roadblocks, they wouldn’t even own snow clothes. They might have originally thought they could stay in the car the whole way. Or a smuggler dumped them out of a truck in the middle of nowhere.
That’s how a family died here in Manitoba a few years ago… their “guy” dropped them off a little ways from the border for them to hoof it the rest of the way… Rcmp found them later frozen in a field. Worst part is they had an 11 year old and a baby with them.
You can start out somewhat prepared, but between where you’re running from and where you’re hoping to get, there’s a whole mini industry devoted to taking every last dime. Human traffickers will absolutely steal your shit. So many migrant workers regularly get their ID, permits and such yoinked, but those crooks will even steal the mitts off your hands. And if you’re a traumatized refugee, you’re an even easier mark.
Having friendlier borders actually makes things marginally safer for vulnerable people. Can’t have that.
I drive from Winnipeg to Iowa a lot and the difference is staggering.
There isn’t snow on the fields until you are north of Grand Forks.
A little further south and its sweater weather in January
They could have left travelling from a warmer state and just didn’t have/couldn’t afford warmer clothing.
Probably didn’t lose their fingers or toes tho.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/refugees-frostbite-become-canadian-citizens-1.6783528
Jeez that’s a heavy price to pay, but I’m happy it worked out for them. I’ve lived in Mb most of my life and wouldn’t want to pull that stunt in the middle of our winters.
God damn: go back to your home country and risk getting killed or live out the rest of your life without all of your fingers.
They were probably floridians.
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I’ve been wondering with everything going on, if they will bother finishing the 5th season of Handmaids Tale, then this today; life imitates art: I wonder if these folks will seek asylum?
If I’m reading that right, all three groups traveled from the US to the Canadian side.
I think it is time to tariff the US until they get their borders under control and stop the flow of illegal immigrants, drugs, and guns across our borders!
MILLIONS of people from mental asylums!
just 1 really big asylum
Wonko the Sane had the right idea. I need to find his house.
They’re sending their best (seriously, the bar is that low on America… it’s actually really sad)
A decent portion of our best have already left.
I’m going to stay and fight, but I respect the ones who choose to leave.
You know it is bad when “Are you smarter than a 5th grader” only existed because “Are you smarter than a 7th grader” would be too difficult for the average person in the US to win.
Joking aside, it is really sad especially when you see the state the country is in today because of the brain drain over the last few decades leaving about 75% of the US adult population with literacy skills at or below a 6th grade level. (21% is clinically illiterate)
We’re not sending our best…
I mean that’s always an option, only problem with that is Trump will just turn around and tariff you more
Right over your head eh?
No, I got it, I’m just glad you guys can find it within yourself to still make jokes, while Trump is bitch slapping you for no good reason other to show everyone else in the world he’ll do it to them next. I think it all sucks man, and I feel really bad for Canada.
Bitch slapping us? Where are those doubled tariffs he threatened to levy on us if we counter tariffed the US? Only bitch here is your bitch ass leadership.
Another mouthbreather that doesn’t understand tariffs.
Amazing considering a glance at the Wikipedia page would be enough of an education to understand how tariffs don’t help at all.
So… Be as bad as they are to people trying to escape fascism?
On the one hand, I feel bad because these are people running to a better world hopefully before they get deported back to a shittier one. They come north so that they aren’t sent south. (I presume that’s what’s going on here) And in that respect, I would welcome all of them.
America is a shit hole. Meanwhile, our population is stagnant because of declining birth rates, and our country absolutely loves diversity (at least on paper). Unlike America, where you’re expected to melt into one giant conglomerate “American” culture, in Canada, you enrich ours by adding yours, like a spice.
But the problem is, doing it this way out of desperation is just going to embolden our own Maple MAGA fuckwits to become even bigger assholes because their IS a cost of living crisis, and we do have an immigration problem that needs to be addressed as well.
There’s no winning.