Important to note Aaron was helping democratize information while companies like Meta, Amazon, Google and Microsoft just centralize, twist and redact information to monetize access to a dumbed down and censored version of it.
Not to mention that Swartz had a JSTOR account, which means he was legally entitled to download the things that he did. The part they didn’t like was that he used scripts to download en-mass, and a bunch of boomer fucks thought he actually committed a crime.
I can’t remember his name but one particular Cia or FBI fuck was trying to make a name for himself and spun the whole thing as a big deal when crime wise, it could have potentially been trespassing at the maximum. They had been following aaron and looking for reasons to charge him which was giving him justified paranoia outside of this particular event
The university AND jstor were pretty quick to get as uninvolved from that mess as quick as possible, so it really doesn’t matter… But what you’re saying has nothing to do with the case and is also not true. “Broke and entered” implies forced physical access into a clearly forbidden area. The network closet was a room that was left unlocked and was frequently used by janitorial staff to put junk in.
My grandma is the opposite of this, he embraces learning new technology and wants to stay informed with new developments.
So far my dad is like this as well.
I strive to become like them, they’re both pretty great people all-round!
Well in the Social Network movie and chapter 2 of the Accidental Billionaires, Mark Zuckerberg used wget in shell scripts to get copyrighted images for private servers.
Spotify also originally got all its music by pirating it. But later it started printing money for record labels (while fucking over musicians) so all was forgiven.
I’m with you right up to the ageism. The folks who persecuted Aaron were older than him, but they were not boomers, and what they did had nothing to do with his age or theirs.
When it is used to denigrate a “mindset” that you don’t like, it is most certainly a slur. When used to refer to folks who were born between 1945 and 1960, it is not.
We’ve all agreed (almost all) to stop using the word retarded to refer derogatorily to folks who do not have that medical condition.
Any word can be used as a slur? Really? Please explain what a slur is to you. I agree that every word can be used as an insult, you absolute Brokkoli, but that’s down to tone and context, more than anything, isn’t a slur more than that?
Not really. I could provide actual specific examples, but I don’t really want to start saying like, slurs, so. I think maybe if you think that you couldn’t make a slur out of almost any word, then you’re not being creative enough, or, you haven’t acclimated to how creative some of these other guys can be.
Here, I’ll come up with a theoretical example. You could probably make a slur out of, say, calling someone a banana-eater, right. I can even imagine two ways to do that.
You could have it be, okay, well, monkeys eat bananas, so, the banana eater is like a monkey, and then obviously comparing people to monkeys is gonna be a little bit of a red flag, is maybe racist, especially depending on whether or not you’re using it to be racist, or applying it disproportionately to one group of people. I’ve seen people just throwing out, like, the specific lego number piece of the mass produced lego monkey, whenever they see a black guy online. I think, at that point, that’s basically a slur, in how they’re using it, and that’s like, just a sequence of numbers.
Or, you could say, okay, well, bananas are kind of a phallic type of food, right, like hot dogs, or whatever, so, people eating bananas are gay, as a kind of substitute for a cock. So, it could also be a homophobic thing.
This is all dependent on the context of use, too. If you’re exclusively calling one group “banana-eaters” based on their intrinsic traits, that’s gonna turn that expression into a slur more. It could also be a statement of fact, right, oh, chuck over there, he’s a banana-eater, he eats bananas, sure. It depends entirely on use. If you need evidence for how this shit can progress then you need only look at websites like 4chan or some other such nonsense.
On top of all this you kind of have the complications of, say, slurs only really applying to particular intrinsic traits that people have rather than others. Slurs can apply to black people, but calling someone a “cracker”, despite being still based on an intrinsic trait, of white skin, isn’t really a slur. Neither is, as upthread, calling someone a “boomer”, because we all age over time, where it’s sort of used generically just to refer to anyone older than you, or because it’s usually applied as a reference to a very specific class of people that have a specific socioeconomic context, more than just being based on their age. You’ll usually only hear people call, say, american boomers “boomers”, in that context, but you won’t hear that in, say, china, or africa, or most of south america, or whatever. It’s a reference to the post-war boom years, explicitly.
There are also certain subcultures which re-appropriate slurs, which basically means that those words aren’t really slurs in how they’re being used in that subculture. I’m sure you can think of examples of that.
You realize there is a difference between derragatory and slur right? Boomer is meant to be an insult. That doesnt mean it should be put in the same category as words like the F, N, or T slur.
Boomer is used to point out an outdated mindset or way of thinking in an insulting way. Slurs are usually a way of drawing upon a history of oppression or pain to hurt someone. They arent comparable.
All someone has to do to avoid being called a boomer is to not say some boomer ass shit. By comparison Fa---- and tr---- are slurs that will follow me no matter how successful I am or how insightful and well meaning my words are.
All someone has to do to avoid being called a boomer is
Everyone born between 1945 and 1960 (in the US) is literally unable to do anything to avoid being known as and called a boomer. The word was around for decades before some stupid mean people tried to redefine it based on their ageism, or in other words their ridiculous belief that old people are evil.
Any discussion/advice community that allows low-effort meme slop will inevitably become choked out by it. I understand I am in the minority and the mods like having the memes, but eventually we’ll need /c/piracydiscussion if content of this formatting is permitted.
Obviously 99% of people here would agree that Aaron Swarts’ story is a tragedy. But simple low-hanging fruit content is not what I want this place to have. And like it or not this community is likely to become the single biggest place to discuss piracy as Reddit inevitably cracks down on it.
This is like the worst example possible, considering Aaron himself was rich, which should tell you the obvious, that being rich was never a sole differentiator.
But that might be too disruptive to the current echo chamber.
Is it safe to assume that every single author (apart from the ones that cannot prove their works were in any of those archives at the time) can sue meta for plagiarism and theft?
Unfortunately I can’t listen to podcasts. If I only listen to something without visual stimulation my mind start to think about unrelated things, and I just can’t follow what they speak about, I loose track after a while.
Before podcasts there were radio talk shows, I hated them similarly, and I tuned to another station where they were playing music.
I can only listen to podcasts and I really dislike the trend of everything being videos. Especially when it’s about how to do some technical thing and you have to watch someone using a terminal or doing a physical repair… I literally CANNOT. I can’t attend to the visuals. Just zone out. I mostly listen to TV/movies. When I was a kid you could get TV stations on the radio at night and I was totally happy to just listen to them.
So you enjoy your half of the media and I’ll enjoy my half. :)
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Important to note Aaron was helping democratize information while companies like Meta, Amazon, Google and Microsoft just centralize, twist and redact information to monetize access to a dumbed down and censored version of it.
Rest in power, Aaron. 🫡
Eat the rich.
It’s Luigi time!
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Not to mention that Swartz had a JSTOR account, which means he was legally entitled to download the things that he did. The part they didn’t like was that he used scripts to download en-mass, and a bunch of boomer fucks thought he actually committed a crime.
I can’t remember his name but one particular Cia or FBI fuck was trying to make a name for himself and spun the whole thing as a big deal when crime wise, it could have potentially been trespassing at the maximum. They had been following aaron and looking for reasons to charge him which was giving him justified paranoia outside of this particular event
Yeah, I think he setup his laptop in a private server room to ensure that he had maximum speeds, so they called it criminal trespassing.
Such a fucked up incident.
To be fair, he broke and entered a networking closet as well. But I guess that is a separate issue.
Walking through an open door in a place you’re authorized to access is going to be a hard sell on a B&E conviction, but okay.
The university AND jstor were pretty quick to get as uninvolved from that mess as quick as possible, so it really doesn’t matter… But what you’re saying has nothing to do with the case and is also not true. “Broke and entered” implies forced physical access into a clearly forbidden area. The network closet was a room that was left unlocked and was frequently used by janitorial staff to put junk in.
IIRC (could be wrong) the closet was unlocked. So can we really call that “breaking and entering?”
broke what
Old people and overreacting to normal things because new ideas are scary and confusing
Name a more iconic duo
I fear getting old because of this
I am getting old. My parents told me that I’d understand how the world works when I get older, but I just hate it more and more.
Sounds like they were right
That’s how you know you’re understanding it.
Can you handle shorts well? I am not (hate them) and I am from 97, like feeling pretty old
🤣this tiktok shit is crazy
My grandma is the opposite of this, he embraces learning new technology and wants to stay informed with new developments.
So far my dad is like this as well.
I strive to become like them, they’re both pretty great people all-round!
Well in the Social Network movie and chapter 2 of the Accidental Billionaires, Mark Zuckerberg used
wgetin shell scripts to get copyrighted images for private servers.Can we give punish him?
No, he’s part of the US oligarchy. Don’t criticize too much or you might happen to have sudden, unexplainable tech problems and legal trouble. /s
Spotify also originally got all its music by pirating it. But later it started printing money for record labels (while fucking over musicians) so all was forgiven.
That feels a bit disingenuous. The record labels were already thoroughly fucking over musicians.
and youtube got big hosting everything, they took years to take down hella anime, movies, etc.
and crunchyroll
I’m with you right up to the ageism. The folks who persecuted Aaron were older than him, but they were not boomers, and what they did had nothing to do with his age or theirs.
Bigotry is always wrong.
Boomer is a mindset.
Fine. Use a word for it that isn’t a bigoted slur.
Boomer isn’t a slur.
When it is used to denigrate a “mindset” that you don’t like, it is most certainly a slur. When used to refer to folks who were born between 1945 and 1960, it is not.
We’ve all agreed (almost all) to stop using the word retarded to refer derogatorily to folks who do not have that medical condition.
Any word can be used as a slur.
Any word can be used as a slur? Really? Please explain what a slur is to you. I agree that every word can be used as an insult, you absolute Brokkoli, but that’s down to tone and context, more than anything, isn’t a slur more than that?
Not really. I could provide actual specific examples, but I don’t really want to start saying like, slurs, so. I think maybe if you think that you couldn’t make a slur out of almost any word, then you’re not being creative enough, or, you haven’t acclimated to how creative some of these other guys can be.
Here, I’ll come up with a theoretical example. You could probably make a slur out of, say, calling someone a banana-eater, right. I can even imagine two ways to do that.
You could have it be, okay, well, monkeys eat bananas, so, the banana eater is like a monkey, and then obviously comparing people to monkeys is gonna be a little bit of a red flag, is maybe racist, especially depending on whether or not you’re using it to be racist, or applying it disproportionately to one group of people. I’ve seen people just throwing out, like, the specific lego number piece of the mass produced lego monkey, whenever they see a black guy online. I think, at that point, that’s basically a slur, in how they’re using it, and that’s like, just a sequence of numbers.
Or, you could say, okay, well, bananas are kind of a phallic type of food, right, like hot dogs, or whatever, so, people eating bananas are gay, as a kind of substitute for a cock. So, it could also be a homophobic thing.
This is all dependent on the context of use, too. If you’re exclusively calling one group “banana-eaters” based on their intrinsic traits, that’s gonna turn that expression into a slur more. It could also be a statement of fact, right, oh, chuck over there, he’s a banana-eater, he eats bananas, sure. It depends entirely on use. If you need evidence for how this shit can progress then you need only look at websites like 4chan or some other such nonsense.
On top of all this you kind of have the complications of, say, slurs only really applying to particular intrinsic traits that people have rather than others. Slurs can apply to black people, but calling someone a “cracker”, despite being still based on an intrinsic trait, of white skin, isn’t really a slur. Neither is, as upthread, calling someone a “boomer”, because we all age over time, where it’s sort of used generically just to refer to anyone older than you, or because it’s usually applied as a reference to a very specific class of people that have a specific socioeconomic context, more than just being based on their age. You’ll usually only hear people call, say, american boomers “boomers”, in that context, but you won’t hear that in, say, china, or africa, or most of south america, or whatever. It’s a reference to the post-war boom years, explicitly.
There are also certain subcultures which re-appropriate slurs, which basically means that those words aren’t really slurs in how they’re being used in that subculture. I’m sure you can think of examples of that.
You realize there is a difference between derragatory and slur right? Boomer is meant to be an insult. That doesnt mean it should be put in the same category as words like the F, N, or T slur.
Boomer is used to point out an outdated mindset or way of thinking in an insulting way. Slurs are usually a way of drawing upon a history of oppression or pain to hurt someone. They arent comparable.
All someone has to do to avoid being called a boomer is to not say some boomer ass shit. By comparison Fa---- and tr---- are slurs that will follow me no matter how successful I am or how insightful and well meaning my words are.
Everyone born between 1945 and 1960 (in the US) is literally unable to do anything to avoid being known as and called a boomer. The word was around for decades before some stupid mean people tried to redefine it based on their ageism, or in other words their ridiculous belief that old people are evil.
Okay, “apricot”.
Much better! I approve!
Let’s try to make this work! Please?
don’t be ridiculous
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who da fuck disliked the post? How dare you!
Probably the same person that snitched on Luigi.
I would also snitch on a murderer tbh.
Unqualifiedly?
Any discussion/advice community that allows low-effort meme slop will inevitably become choked out by it. I understand I am in the minority and the mods like having the memes, but eventually we’ll need /c/piracydiscussion if content of this formatting is permitted.
Obviously 99% of people here would agree that Aaron Swarts’ story is a tragedy. But simple low-hanging fruit content is not what I want this place to have. And like it or not this community is likely to become the single biggest place to discuss piracy as Reddit inevitably cracks down on it.
I don’t think the post is a meme nor low effort content
Honestly curious what kind of content you believe requires less effort to post than an image macro?
Memes keep us going during dry times…
But yeah once we have sufficient amount and quality of discussions, threat actors will use memes to suppress that.
I guess I’d be fine with a piracy discussion
Shoo go back to being poorly photographed in forest settings.
Another reason to tell Obama to fuck himself.
Along with his treatment of Snowden doing a public good.
And the Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz
This is like the worst example possible, considering Aaron himself was rich, which should tell you the obvious, that being rich was never a sole differentiator.
But that might be too disruptive to the current echo chamber.
You need to be “i own several politicians” level of rich before it helps
Tbh I just couldn’t think of a good title. Maybe “Laws don’t matter if its a company doing it”?
you must be rich, white, and not too disruptive
I see this post and think “progress toward the abolition of intellectual property”. I’m sure Aaron would agree.
I love Anna’s archive. I still buy e-books, but will download a drm free copy from the archive.
but, to be clear, we didn’t want Aaron to be prosecuted, so things are better, now.
lol, lmao
That assumes he wouldn’t have been prosecuted for the same thing today…
I am getting so sick of this fucked up world.
Is it safe to assume that every single author (apart from the ones that cannot prove their works were in any of those archives at the time) can sue meta for plagiarism and theft?
You can but you won’t win unless you can prove anything, so good luck with that.
Even if you can, you’re fighting against a company that has annual revenue similar to some country’s GDP.
No company should be allowed to get this big.
*unless it’s product is collectively owned by the public and for the public as a civil service.
Now we need something like nightshade for text.
That’s a far harder problem than it sounds unfortunately.
Yes. I see no feasible solution to this, without impacting the reader experience.
plagiarism is an academic crime, not a civil tort.
It’s a copyright violation to use someone’s work without permission. (Regardless of your feelings about copyright or intellectual property)
plagiarism is neither a civil tort nor a criminal offense.
Back when I worked as a designer, using work without paying for usage rights leads to exposure of being civilly sued for copyright violations.
You’re wrong. Confidently wrong.
if you were sued civilly for copyright violations, that’s not plagiarism. That’s copyright infringement. plagiarism is something else.
Plagiarism is an infringement against copyright.
no it’s not. it’s an academic crime.
if I plagiarize The Bible, that has nothing to do with copyright. it’s still plagiarism.
It’s possibly classed as fair use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors_Guild,_Inc._v._Google,_Inc.
There is a very good documentary about Aaron’s life: The Internet’s Own Boy
Its license is Creative Commons, so it’s on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M85UvH0TRPc
Behind the bastards had a great episode on Swartz. It was their annual Christmas non bastard episode
Unfortunately I can’t listen to podcasts. If I only listen to something without visual stimulation my mind start to think about unrelated things, and I just can’t follow what they speak about, I loose track after a while.
Before podcasts there were radio talk shows, I hated them similarly, and I tuned to another station where they were playing music.
I also can’t listen to podcasts but mostly because I’m quite deaf and I understand 70% of speech through lip-reading ☹️
I can only listen to podcasts and I really dislike the trend of everything being videos. Especially when it’s about how to do some technical thing and you have to watch someone using a terminal or doing a physical repair… I literally CANNOT. I can’t attend to the visuals. Just zone out. I mostly listen to TV/movies. When I was a kid you could get TV stations on the radio at night and I was totally happy to just listen to them.
So you enjoy your half of the media and I’ll enjoy my half. :)
I only listen to them while driving
The movie is on CC? Doing Aaron proud.
laws for thee not for me
It’s becoming more and more obvious that they were always referencing bank accounts when saying we’re a country of checks and balances.
Crazy idea:
If copyright was invented to prevent printers from scooping authors’ work and out-competing them for sales…
Maybe copyright should only apply if you’re trying to compete with the author?
So like, not if you’re just a lowly individual trying to keep up with the references all of society is making, or understand the world you live in.
If we had the political power to fight Disney, then we could enact a UBI so everyone can get free art all the time.
LotR should have entered the public domain in 2023.
Instead we got the Rings of Power.
Boy that is a really mental gymnastics way of saying “profiting from someone else’s work”.