Disney Raises Prices for Streaming Services by as Much as 27%::Walt Disney Co. is raising the prices of its streaming services, including a 27% increase for the advertising-free version of the flagship Disney+.

TLDR:

Current ad free plans for Disney+ and Hulu are now raising $3 more on October 12. Both becoming $13.99 and $17.99.

So what I’ve been seeing at youtube about Disney plus being in financial difficulty is not a conspiracy theory after all. I didn’t watch any of these since I thought it was just popular to hate on Disney, and people were just jumping on the band wagon. Pretty they were just the doom and gloom brigade targeting Disney.

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Nope, Disney isn’t in financial difficulty. This was their plan from the beginning. Lure people in with low prices, then slowly raise them after gutting the catalogue of available movies and shows.

@1019throw@lemmy.world
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Slowly? I paid $80 for an annual plan last year. If it’s $14/month, it’ll be 170.

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That’s insane.

@MrVilliam@lemmy.world
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Nah, they launched at a crazy low price and were putting shit on there way too soon after theatrical release. I’m sure I’m not the only one who wondered why the fuck I’d pay $20 for 2 movie tickets to movies that are getting shittier when they’ll be coming into my home like a month later with subtitles and pause functionality. Their goal from the start was to have a huge userbase at the start and establish themselves as a perceived “need” before ramping up price. I’m surprised it took this long.

Pretty spot on, I was skeptical at first when they released. “How the F are they going to jack up the prices to the rate they want from this low starting point without customers balking?” Then I remembered it’s a subscription service and like a quarter of the population doesn’t even look at their credit card statement details…

@HellAwaits@lemm.ee
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This is why I pirate. Disney buys exclusive rights to kdramas that would otherwise be on multiple streaming services just so we have the privilege to overpay for their shitty subscriptions.

Disney can go fuck themselves.

How do I learn how to do this and not get caught?

Piracy community on the dbzero lemmy server is quite helpful. Run by the piracy subreddit former head admin.

Awesome. I’ll check it out

@angrymouse@lemmy.world
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If you live in a country that hunt pirates you will probably just need to get a VPN (I’m not from a fancy country but I believe it is cheaper than Disney there) and download stremio.

I’m in the US, so I will need a VPN. Any VPN recommendations? And is stremio like a streaming service but not for money?

airvpn has been good after mullvad removed port forwarding. Proton looks like another good option. If you setup a torrent client, make sure you bind it to the VPN interface. Search how to do this, there’s lots of good documentation. And also run an IP leak test in a browser.

Okay. I think I got this. Hopefully my ISP doesn’t catch on somehow lol

ddh
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An alternative to a VPN is to use I2P, which is free but requires some technical setup.

How technical?

ddh
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It’s been a while, but I just had a look at the Download page and it looks fairly straightforward. It’s essentially install and start a package, then configure your browser to use the proxy. There’s even an ‘easy install’ package for Windows now.

Oh that’s awesome

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I’ve used Private Internet Access for years.

I’ll check it out

@Nommer@sh.itjust.works
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I’d avoid PIA. They were bought out by a “former” spyware company. Wouldn’t trust them.

Oh jeez okay

@angrymouse@lemmy.world
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Stremio is an APP that downloads movies and series from torrents while you watch, actually it just shows you things from addons you add to it, technically you can add addons from paid services like apple, and amazon video, but you can also add addons like torrentio that aggregate a lot of torrent sources.
It integrates with IMDB and download subtitles automatically from open subtitles, it is very feature complete, you would probably just have problems with too old or niche movies that have a low number of seeders but you can always right click on the moving while running, copy magnet link and put in an torrent downloader like qbittorrent.
Just take care with your vpn, make sure you check the option of your VPN to shutdown the internet in case the VPN disconnect automatically (usually is default) so you don’t have the risk to accidentally download part of your torrent out of the VPN. As long I know US is crazy when talk about piracy.

@pakrat@lemmy.world
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If you use real debrid with stremio you won’t need to use a VPN

@angrymouse@lemmy.world
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Real debrid is that service that stores torrents to download directly? If so, there is an integration with stremio?

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Yes, Stremio integrates with real-debrid and stores torrents. This allows for easy streaming.

But they don’t seed longer than they download, so they aren’t exactly great for the network (but many people don’t upload enough anyway).

Don’t know if they’re free but Mullvad VPN is great. Proton VPN is also good.

I looked into both and they are both affordable for me. Do you prefer one over the other?

@Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee
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Yes, but I’m not telling which one.

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Mullvad doesn’t allow port forwarding anymore which makes it less useful if you want to actually seed and not just leech.

But mullvad is great otherwise and doesn’t even require any personal data to buy. They just give you an account number.

What is seed and leech?

I prefer mullvad but I had to stop using it on my personal devices due to it getting blocked on certain networks. For my server it’s perfectly fine. They don’t offer a way to do auto pay and buying credits can be a bit weird but that’s the only thing I’d say is a minor downside.

Mozilla vpn is actually mullvad but is also about twice the price.

Hm. I like autopay. I’ll probably look into other options.

Mullvad. The just had a security audit and came out 💯.

@InvaderDJ@lemmy.world
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I already cancelled my Disney+ subscription earlier in the year. I’m just letting it ride out. After that, I will either do the subscription hopping thing where I only sub when something I want is airing, or just add Marvel stuff to my piracy rotation.

Real debrid. C’mon, do it. You’ll never ever go back once you start.

@Karma_nder@lemmy.world
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Is there a trusted walkthrough somewhere? I’ve seen directions here and there, but I’m never sure if any of them are scams… How would this work for someone in the US, is VPN needed/recommended?

@Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I know this is a reddit link. But this is basically it. And no vpn required since you are streaming from real debrid and not directly torrenting from the source

guide

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That site looks sketchy as fuck.

Chewy
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Yeah, and they are. Real-debrid is mainly used for piracy as far as I can see. Though they are trustworthy in the sense that they’ve been around for years.

But these sketchy sites are pretty normal in this space (seedboxes, torrent tracker, usenet indexer, usenet provider, …).

@Brasidas@feddit.uk
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Sounds like they’re removing 4K from the standard plan and moving it to the new premium plan. Fuck you Disney!

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There’s a premium plan? Here in Australia, we still just have the one monthly plan, which they recently increased by $3 per month.

If they jump onto the “premium” plan bandwagon like the others, and move 4K to that, this will literally be the final streaming service for me to drop. I’ve already dropped all the others. Only reason I kept this is because the sheer volume of content for my wife and daughter makes the $14 worthwhile - I just don’t have enough storage space (yet) to deliver all that via my Plex setup.

@Brasidas@feddit.uk
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They’re introducing it in Europe from November 2023, not sure about other regions. The press release here explains what’s in each plan - unfortunately the premium plan is listed here and it sounds just like Netflix.

Sonovabitch. This is why I cancelled the others in the first place - forcing me to pay for additional devices, just to get 4K streaming. That, and Netflix wanted to charge me for password sharing because my stepkids use our account when they’re at their dad’s. Netflix’s answer was they should have a profile at each house. Losers.

@Postis2@lemmy.world
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Use stremio instead

I’ve seen a few people mention Stremio lately. What’s the tldr; in terms of benefits?

I went through a fair amount of “adjustment”, getting my family to use Plex and Overseerr (replacing Kodi and “ask Dad to get it”), so I’d want to have some compelling reasons to change things on them again.

@scottywh@lemmy.world
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I recently learned that you could integrate real-debrid with Plex though and stream instead of storing locally if you like so that may be worth looking into for your (and my) use case.

@scottywh@lemmy.world
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I don’t remember seeing Overseerr mentioned before although I do remember someone describing a request system like that for Plex a while back.

It’s interesting… I have never really tried to get my family using anything like that but I have had the lifetime Plex Pass for years now.

I think it’s about time for me to finally start expanding my local media collection again so maybe I’ll give adding it to the mix a shot.

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Honestly, it’s been a game changer for my family and I. To go with Overseerr, I setup multiple Radarr and Sonarr instances, to cover 4K and anime. That way, anything they request in regular 1080p is auto-approved and downloaded, whereas 4K content requires I approve it first, mainly so I can manage free storage effectively.

Once I’ve managed to save up enough to deploy a much bigger storage solution, I’ll just let 4K be auto-approved too.

@scottywh@lemmy.world
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Makes sense to me… Might still be worth looking into Plex Debrid though to stream anything not worth keeping.

That’s an excellent point - there’s no reason for a one or other approach. There’s plenty of content we only watch the once, then I delete later on when doing a cleanup.

@Postis2@lemmy.world
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Yeah that could be a good idea personally i don’t save a’lot of stuff so a flash drive is enough for me

I actually started using Stremio today because of what this guy said. I never heard of it. It’s definitely easy to use, but requires some setting up with plugins. Without the right plugin (torrentio) you won’t be able to stream anything without being told to use a subscription service. It took me about 5 minutes to figure out how to get the plugin. I just watched Evil Dead: Rise and I had plenty of options for streaming it. Considering how I canceled my Netflix subscription a little while ago it’s nice to have a reliable replacement. I mean, it’s even better than Netflix. Lots of new movies and shows to watch. I hope this thing lasts a long time because it’s just what I was looking for.

@Postis2@lemmy.world
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Nice dude you can install the plugin “cyberflix” so you get streaming catalogs that you can scroll through in discovery.

@Gailthesnail@lemmy.ml
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stremio has gotten a lot worse quality wise since rarbg went down. it doesnt seem to scrape torrentgalaxy correctly and i have no idea how to fix it

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Oh look, another one.

YouTube: premium is increasing

Spotify: we’re increasing your sub

Bank: we’re increasing your mortgage

Supermarket: we’re increasing your food spend

Car insurance: we’re increasing your premium

Household bills: we’re increasing water, gas and electricity

Broadband: we’re increasing your fees

Cellphone: your contract renewal is higher than last year

Salary: fuck you, peasant

Bank Of England: Just stop spending

Disney: Hi …

@ffolkes@fanexus.com
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To be fair, Spotify might suck for artists, but for users it’s a good value in my opinion, and the price was $9.99 for like 10 years. I don’t begrudge them a small increase. In fact, I wish all the price increases we’ve seen lately would be so modest.

@CrowAirbrush@lemm.ee
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Imo paying a monthly fee and not getting something in return you can still use if you fall on bad times in such uncertain times as today makes zero sense. Rent more than doubled in the past 3 years and my wage actually went down, there is zero oppertunity to build a better life and now every silly business wants me to increase my monthly expenses by another 5/20 bucks per service per month, compared to an era where we just bought shit for cheap from the discount bin when we didn’t make a lot of money.

I’ll “ARRRR!” the whole way until they behave and life becomes affordable again.

I stopped working out because i can’t afford the food needed to properly benefit from a workout. Whey used to be a cheap way to get protëine and it went up 350% in the past 2 years. Eggs, chicken, peanuts, vegetables all doubled in price. I’m left eating a roll of cheap cookies just to get some food in me half the time.

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Oh no, I completely agree and I continue with it because I really like the service. It just so happens that it’s on top of a whole raft of other increases, some of which are absolutely not justified.

A Spotify increase is only justified if the entire amount goes to artists.

Why are you bootlicking? Stop encouraging corporations to milk money from consumers because “it’s not as bad as the others”.

@Ilandar@aussie.zone
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Some of us old timers remember the bad old days when a CD with two songs you actually liked cost $17.99 (about $35-40 in today’s dollars). As bad as Spotify and others are it sure beats what we had before.

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@Leviathan@lemmy.world
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I go to live shows and buy merch literally every week. I generally support artists directly whenever possible. I don’t need to give these giant corpos money while pretending more than pennies go to the artists.

Bank: we’re increasing your mortgage

Supermarket: we’re increasing your food spend

Car insurance: we’re increasing your premium

Household bills: we’re increasing water, gas and electricity

Broadband: we’re increasing your fees

Cellphone: your contract renewal is higher than last year

Salary: fuck you, peasant

Bank Of England: Just stop spending

When in the last 120 years was this NOT a case? Sure, few last years have been fucked more than usual, but we are still living pretty comfortable lives. Inflation is natural.

@ilikekeyboards@lemmy.world
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What happens when spendings are bigger than income, genius?

Of course it’s been happening for a hundred years that’s why it got so bad. At some point water boills, sur prize

Jokes aside, we’ll see our first generation of homeless labourers.

@Peddlephile@lemm.ee
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It’s already happened in Hong Kong for decades with the coffin apartments. It’s just now more prominently occurring in the west.

All businesses must move to a circular economy. This infinite growth nonsense is what’s causing this and it’s impossible to have infinite growth.

I’ll have what he’s smoking.

@static_motion@programming.dev
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A YoY inflation rate of ~10% is most assuredly not natural in most of the developed world. I fully understand why it happened, but that serves no justification for the negative impact on the lives of the majority of the population.

@Landrin201@lemmy.ml
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And the increase in the price of goods that I’ve seen around me has been more like 30%, not 10. It’s blatant price gouging, but the government refuses to act to stop it.

To be fair my fiber ISP recently got actual competition and lowered my price from 95/mo to 65/mo. So SOMETIMES the system works. When its not rigged.

@roon@lemmy.ml
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I can’t be the only netizen here that has an ad stripped, 2x by default YouTube as their primary media consumption

@snowbell@beehaw.org
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YouTube videos feel agonizingly slow without being sped up.

I think it’s time to cancel my subscription and instead use the net. Usenet.

SokathHisEyesOpen
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Does the Usenet still exist? I haven’t used it since around 2006.

It does and it’s alive and well for piracy (alt.binaries.*). As for text discussion well. It’s mostly spam and Nazis. But it’s great for sucking down content!

There has to be something similar to Rule 34 that deals with this. Rule 35: Given a long enough span of time, every form of online interaction will be infiltrated by Nazis. Like a corollary to Godwin’s law.

Haha, well said

SokathHisEyesOpen
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Is it worth paying a newsgroup subscription for, or is the torrent network adequate? I haven’t sailed the seas in years, but I’ve been thinking about hoisting my jib since Netflix stopped account sharing, Paramount pulled all the Trek shows, and things are generally getting more fragmented and expensive.

@Rambler@lemm.ee
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I have a newsgroup subscription, but a lot of the posts are obfuscated (confused titles that don’t make sense) so you can’t read the post headers like you can in (say) lemmy or reddit (spit! ) . So I also subscribe to a nzb provider (makes sense of the obfuscated) .

In terms of money it’s not too much - like £20/year.

The nzb provider searches the usenet then your newsgroup host downloads what you want.

I’m probably not very clear, and this has been a learning curve for me, but if I can help I will, just ask. It’s good fun - especially when it works!

Edit: too many ‘buts’

SokathHisEyesOpen
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Don’t services like Easy News and Giga News provide one simple solution in the form of server access, searchable content, and a news client that organizes and downloads everything? That’s how I used it in the past, but those services are $10-$20 per month. Do you mind sharing what you use?

Chewy
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There’re better provider deals on r/usenet. They usually overcharge if you don’t use discounts.

One subscription provider is good and then few non-expiring block accounts on a different backbone helps donwloading content that migjt’ve been DMCA’d on your main provider. A block with many GB’s lasts a long tims since (almost) all parts of a movie are on the main subscription provider.

And then you need an indexer that usually costs around 15$ per year. Those are like torrent tracker. E.g. DrunkenSlug has currently open registrations.

But to get started a subscription provider and an indexer should be enough.

With sabnzbd (download client), Radarr, Sonarr and Prowlarr and Thrash Guides everything can be automated if you want.

SokathHisEyesOpen
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Thanks for the information!

@Rambler@lemm.ee
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I’m using nzbgeek to find stuff. Then put the links it returns into eweka - a usenet provider. I’m new to this, so I’m just dipping my toe in to make sure it works. Currently it does but I’m sure there are better deals if you look around.

I think it is worth it. Usenet has a lot of advantages, like not needing seeders. If the content’s there, you suck it down at the full speed of your connection. That said, sometimes things get DMCA’d so you have to try to download several of them, until you find one that works. Generally smaller servers are less likely to get DMCA’d. I personally use XSNews.nl having switched from NewsHosting and notice a better availability of files (eg less DMCAs). But that minor hiccup aside, it’s much faster and easier than torrenting once you get set up.

My setup is Usenapp for macOS plus XSNews as a host and a paid NZBPlanet membership for search - which you can plug right into a lot of clients, Usenapp included. So basically it’s a magical search engine and download manager that can one-click pirate just about anything at the full speed of my fiber connection. Glorious!

For the serious pirates there’s a thing called Radarr too, I haven’t dabbed in it but I understand there’s a way to set up your Synology NAS or whatever to auto-pirate new episodes of shows and stuff.

SokathHisEyesOpen
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Outstanding! Thanks for all the information.

@spiderman@ani.social
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Yeah, there are still some decent indexers around like Drunkenslug.

Chewy
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I wanted to rely on torrents but I need german and english audio for my family/friends, which usually aren’t available as torrents - at least on the trackers I can access.

Usenet and direct download sites (via real-debrid) have most content in my native language and the former is the only one that can be automated with *arr.

SokathHisEyesOpen
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You can get subtitles for just about any movie in a bunch of different languages at OpenSubs. It’s not audio, but it could help if there’s something that you can’t find in the right language.

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unfortunately germany is heavily “dub centric” and a lot of people here never engaged in english more than needed in school

convincing family/friends to watch a movie/series with subtitles is sometimes challenging

Coincidental after their earnings call, as their streaming portion posted narrow losses

Carlos Solís
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And that, people, is why I haven’t watched a TV series in almost a decade

@Lummy@lemmy.world
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Stremio + Realdebrid, I’m never going back

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Those of you with kids that want to stream some quality content shouldn’t overlook PBS Kids. The app on Roku and Apple TV is decent quality. Lots of free commercial free shows, and you can live stream the PBS Kids channel.

Forgetting where we are for a minute, if you’re willing to throw your local PBS station a fiver every month, you’ll help keep these programs available for those who can’t afford to pay (or can’t even afford a computer) and get online access to all the adult PBS shows through their app.

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So true, $5/mo is the minimum donation amount to give you access to PBS Passport which unlocks all content of the regular PBS app.

@Clone_IX@lemmy.world
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Jellyfin did not raise their prices. So I’m not worried. 😏

Drives aren’t going down in price :(

Predicted that flash storage will become cheaper per TB somewhere around 2025. Hopefully that happens because hdd prices have been really flat.

Chewy
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Hopefully. I’m gonna a buy a large HDD to fonally be able to store those remuxes and not having to delete them. Maybe it’ll be my last hard drive.

@scottywh@lemmy.world
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I’m so close to deciding to sail the high seas again.

I’ve been a lifetime Plex pass subscriber for years now… Just need to get a VPN again, get back on Usenet or real-debrid, and maybe setup Sonarr and Radarr.

I’ll almost certainly save money and have access to more content than I currently do.

@Dubz@lemmy.world
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If it has been mentioned already. Plex_Debrid is the perfect mix without needing a VPN. Yes a VPN is always suggested but this streams directly to your plex server from real debrid.

@scottywh@lemmy.world
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Yes… I understand that.

I also understand that real-debrid does keep logs so that’s why I still plan to VPN it if I go with this solution.

Might as well do it as safely as possible to begin with I think.

@Whirlybird@aussie.zone
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My yearly cost for Usenet is cheaper than one month of Netflix. Granted I already have 60TB of NAS set-up, which wasn’t cheap, but it has more than paid for itself.

Docker and the *arr programs have made setting it all up an absolute breeze too for anyone looking to get started.

Get Windscribe for $3 a month and setup gluetun and you’re golden

@scottywh@lemmy.world
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I’ve not heard of gluetun before but I’ve been a free level windscribe subscriber for several years now and have considered maybe using them when I switch to paid… I think there may be better options though really.

I guess I need to read up more in what the hell gluetun actually even is or if it would benefit me at all…

I’ve got over 25 years in I.T. and, while I’ve worked on and with teams where some folks dealt with docker containers, I personally never have as of yet.

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@scottywh@lemmy.world
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I’d never heard of Bazarr before but I also don’t usually bother with downloading subtitles so I guess that makes sense.

Thanks for the suggestions though!

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If someone deserves to be pirated into oblivion it’s Disney, for fucking up the copyright after making a fortune of public domain material.

But they don’t have any content I would like to watch :(

@gapbetweenus@feddit.de
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Just do it out of principle!

Ok, I will torrent something and let it seed for couple of days.

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Hello my Usenet my oldb frieeeeeend!

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