Most of the old scene thought of cracking DRM in games as a challange within themselves, and did it for the competition. Skidrow’s thoughts align with this mindset. You can’t blame skidrow for that.
Most people almost never download NFOs that’s true. But if you’re a regular then you pay attention to which team does the work at least, so you’re not hacked or injected with cryptoshit.
I have half a mind to start releasing cracks just so there’s 1 cracker who isn’t a fucking bigot.
EDIT: btw, didn’t Voksi get arrested back in 2018? And EMPRESS started releasing cracks in like 2019. So are we to believe that Voksi goes to jail for a year, and immediately comes out and starts cracking again, all without receiving another visit from the feds? Doubt.
I don’t pirate games but after reading this, I DEFINITELY will not pirate games. If these clowns are the ones cracking/repacking the games then I do NOT trust the games to not contain malware/bullshit/whatever. Maybe I’m being paranoid but I wouldn’t go anywhere near software put out by these people. They sound like the types to include malware just to frame the other group or whatever. Idk. These people are morons.
nowadays I assume cracked software (unless if the crack script is fully open source) to likely contain some kind of malware and I just sandbox them since I play cracked games with bottles flatpak anyway.
Flatpak is a linux package format.
Bottles is a gui software that makes it easy to run windows software (especially games) on linux (it is a very good gui/management tool for wine)
Tbf, I simply didn’t see it because I stopped reading halfway through. On the other hand, “tranny” is right at the beginning (and I think somewhere else too), and they seem to intentionally misgender Empress quite a few times, so they stick out quite a lot.
This is clear and willful culture ignorance and I implore you to give Grand Theft Auto V a casual play as a relevant, reasonably modern, and prevalent example of how this isn’t the case.
I’m not in the business of pretending I know someone’s physical attributes based on some text. I’ve had multiple people throughout the years surprise me with info about who they are after literal years of “knowing” them.
Holy fuck I know you did not just say you can say the fucking n word because of GTA. It doesn’t matter how many of your favorite rap songs say it. It doesn’t matter if your favorite video game says it. You cannot fucking say it. Jesus fuck are we letting the racists just be on these communities now? Get the fuck out of here you racist piece of shit.
That is absolutely 100% what I am saying and is 100% the truth. You may think it’s “retarded” (nice ableism) but that’s probably because you are white and don’t talk to or listen to black people. Talk to any black woman or black trans person and ask them if they feel white people care about racism. News flash: the vast majority of white people and white progressives do not fucking care about racism unless it’s convenient for them to do so.
What the fuck? First they call out Empress for actually being a man from Bulgaria. Then they drop a transphobic slur. Then they defend DRM and publishers.
I can understand supporting the developers and promoting buying software you enjoy when you can. But one of the big motivations for cracking software is software preservation and removing DRM that harms legit user experiences. So I say again, wtf?
There’s this thing where they pretend they actually do it to be first and not because they want people to download their cracks. And that’s how you get the crazy talk where they pretend they’re pro-DRM.
The worst thing is that, compared to empress, they were quite moderate. I don’t know what’s wrong with them or why they’re all so mad… but I love the drama, I’m looking forward to the next episode.
Drama aside, Skidrow really does “cracks”? I thought they were only repackers.
Voksi, you fokkin prick, DRM exists for a reason in this world, it protects legitimate interests of actual hard working people, that are entitled to get a decent income from their hard effort!!!
I’m not on any “side” but wut? We are talking about a repacker to a cracker, I think they can be considered equally “guilty” in the sense of “making hard-working people lose money” by distributing the games themselves. And what the hell, I’m pretty sure that’s not the reason DRM exists, and if it is, it’s to secure the income of companies, not their workers.
A lot of scene people say they only do it for the “competition and glory” (which they said in here) because none of them really play the games they crack, but obviously it’s hypocritical as fuck.
Don’t get me wrong, even thought I don’t pirate as much as I once did in my younger days I’m super appreciative of the work they do, free mostly if I understand it correctly. But some of the things they say on this nfos (mostly homophobic slurs and name calling) are super out of place, but at the end to each their own lol
What the actual fuck is wrong is people? What even are these idiots mad at each other over? I couldn’t care less about this stupid bullshit. Absolutely fucking unreal behavior here.
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Seems like no cracker or repacker is ever mentally sane. Like, defending DRM and trans-slurs? Really? Not like Empress is normal either but wtf
Most of the old scene thought of cracking DRM in games as a challange within themselves, and did it for the competition. Skidrow’s thoughts align with this mindset. You can’t blame skidrow for that.
You definitely can blame them for the slurs, and defending DRM really doesn’t win over your fanbase.
What fan base? A thousand or so people that read the NFOs? 99% of crack users don’t even pay attention to the group that released it.
When I torrent skidrow cracked games I usually don’t even download the NFO
Most people almost never download NFOs that’s true. But if you’re a regular then you pay attention to which team does the work at least, so you’re not hacked or injected with cryptoshit.
Yeah, the anti-gay and anti-trans commentary really made me repulse.
I have half a mind to start releasing cracks just so there’s 1 cracker who isn’t a fucking bigot.
EDIT: btw, didn’t Voksi get arrested back in 2018? And EMPRESS started releasing cracks in like 2019. So are we to believe that Voksi goes to jail for a year, and immediately comes out and starts cracking again, all without receiving another visit from the feds? Doubt.
EDIT2: lol here’s Voksi’s response: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/2218172
Fuck EMPRESS and SKIDROW, SKIDROW for dragging Voksi into the petty bullshit and both of them for their childish, edgleord bullshit.
No need to crack games but hear me out: fork goldberg emu and maintain
I have had this exact thought, but that would undoubtedly eat up what little free time I have these days. I don’t have as much of it as I used to.
And that’s why all those folks have mental issues. Having the skill is not enough, you need to pretty much dedicate your whole life to “the craft”
I don’t get why people here are expecting pirates of all people to be polite company.
Fair point.
I don’t pirate games but after reading this, I DEFINITELY will not pirate games. If these clowns are the ones cracking/repacking the games then I do NOT trust the games to not contain malware/bullshit/whatever. Maybe I’m being paranoid but I wouldn’t go anywhere near software put out by these people. They sound like the types to include malware just to frame the other group or whatever. Idk. These people are morons.
There are a lot of other legit crackers besides these two
I thought I read there’s only like 1 that does DRM cracking anymore. That’s not the case?
This is for a specific DRM called Denuvo. Most games don’t have it, but the big titles do
Is there only 1 that does denuvo?
Anymore? Yes. Used to be more, but at this point it’s basically just the shittiest person of the bunch.
It appears only the most deranged of the bunch are willing to dedicate their time cracking Denuvo.
The only repacks I trust are FitGirl’s, mostly because they’re compressed to all hell and she’s always just… kept her head down.
That’s the way. Just keep your head down and don’t engage with morons.
nowadays I assume cracked software (unless if the crack script is fully open source) to likely contain some kind of malware and I just sandbox them since I play cracked games with bottles flatpak anyway.
What is bottles flakpak?
Flatpak is a linux package format. Bottles is a gui software that makes it easy to run windows software (especially games) on linux (it is a very good gui/management tool for wine)
Casual wine/proton W
I did not have defending DRM on my bingo card. Transphobia is especially vile though.
Defending the intent behind DRM is fine, but DRM is the worst
Nope. The problem is DRM that works is always abused. Remember the unskippable ads on DVDs and Blu-Rays? Always.
I like how everyone is concerned about the trans slurs but completely ignores them dropping the n word. Sounds about white for the crowd here I guess
Tbf, I simply didn’t see it because I stopped reading halfway through. On the other hand, “tranny” is right at the beginning (and I think somewhere else too), and they seem to intentionally misgender Empress quite a few times, so they stick out quite a lot.
Probably because
Holy fuck I know you did not just say you can say the fucking n word because of GTA. It doesn’t matter how many of your favorite rap songs say it. It doesn’t matter if your favorite video game says it. You cannot fucking say it. Jesus fuck are we letting the racists just be on these communities now? Get the fuck out of here you racist piece of shit.
yeah that’s pretty crazy lmao
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That is absolutely 100% what I am saying and is 100% the truth. You may think it’s “retarded” (nice ableism) but that’s probably because you are white and don’t talk to or listen to black people. Talk to any black woman or black trans person and ask them if they feel white people care about racism. News flash: the vast majority of white people and white progressives do not fucking care about racism unless it’s convenient for them to do so.
Idk I stopped reading and immediately assumed the rest was horseshit when I saw the t word. Didn’t even get to the n word.
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Yeah you failed yourself and embarrassed everyone in the room. Prrrfww…
Not only is this racist but it’s lazy and unfunny too, even without the racism. Who buys discs anymore? Are you a boomer?
I feel like smoking some weed might help with the edgelord angst
I’m not surprised if this came from smoking weed
Man Voksi got fucked for absolutely no reason(https://www.reddit.com/r/PiratedGames/comments/15szahz/voksi_denies_having_any_relation_with_the_empress/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), let the man live his life. Skidrow and Empress both are Idiots.
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I ain’t reading all that shit. Just crack and distribute is what I’m here for.
What the fuck? First they call out Empress for actually being a man from Bulgaria. Then they drop a transphobic slur. Then they defend DRM and publishers.
I can understand supporting the developers and promoting buying software you enjoy when you can. But one of the big motivations for cracking software is software preservation and removing DRM that harms legit user experiences. So I say again, wtf?
There’s this thing where they pretend they actually do it to be first and not because they want people to download their cracks. And that’s how you get the crazy talk where they pretend they’re pro-DRM.
The worst thing is that, compared to empress, they were quite moderate. I don’t know what’s wrong with them or why they’re all so mad… but I love the drama, I’m looking forward to the next episode.
Raging people seldom make much sense or consistency.
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I didn’t understand the DRM part neither.
Drama aside, Skidrow really does “cracks”? I thought they were only repackers.
I’m not on any “side” but wut? We are talking about a repacker to a cracker, I think they can be considered equally “guilty” in the sense of “making hard-working people lose money” by distributing the games themselves. And what the hell, I’m pretty sure that’s not the reason DRM exists, and if it is, it’s to secure the income of companies, not their workers.
They cracked Denuvo on Fe recently. Granted that is a Unity3D game so the modular approach makes it slightly easier to crack.
A lot of scene people say they only do it for the “competition and glory” (which they said in here) because none of them really play the games they crack, but obviously it’s hypocritical as fuck.
I must’ve missed the original empress’ rant. Anyone know where to see that?
So… no disrespect but, are all scenes/crackers really creepy and angry people then?
Crackers, maybe but most repacking and more scenes are super chill
Don’t get me wrong, even thought I don’t pirate as much as I once did in my younger days I’m super appreciative of the work they do, free mostly if I understand it correctly. But some of the things they say on this nfos (mostly homophobic slurs and name calling) are super out of place, but at the end to each their own lol
They say denuvo is insanely hard to consistently keep cracking
I don’t think a sane person would enjoy it
I don’t really understand how can a pirate defend DRM
DRM cracking is treated as a sport by the Scene. They don’t actually care about pirate philosophies and such, only the challenge.
They like to pretend so.
What the actual fuck is wrong is people? What even are these idiots mad at each other over? I couldn’t care less about this stupid bullshit. Absolutely fucking unreal behavior here.