The original got a PS5 update to 60 FPS. I think what we’re actually seeing is the remaster that will hit the PC. Same routine as the first game which saw a remaster for the PS5, then the PC and eventually the TV series. No doubt this will fall in line for season 2.
I believe the original is just PS5 enhanced, similar to running it on a PS4 Pro. But it’s still a PS4 game running on the PS5.
I don’t know the ins and outs. But most games like that have an upgrade that makes them into actual PS5 games (like you can only play it through the SSD for example).
Yes. Just move on and make new games worth playing, instead of rehashing the past. And more often than not, fucking it up in the process. Only our modern society would accept and accommodate a remade game that’s 100% worse than the original.
I just wish the games that are remade/remastered are basically just graphic updates, with some bug fixes and minor qol additions. That’s it. Not like what they did to ff7.
Hell, diablo 2 Remaster was good. The addition of being able to swap between new and old graphics on the fly is amazing tbh.
For older games that are difficult to install or run by modern means., I think remakes and remasters are completely justified. Upgrades for older games to support newer technologies is nice, but something like TLoU Part 1 getting two remasters on a platform that has no issue running the first remaster already seems more exploitative and a waste of resources than conservational. If it sells like hotcakes, though, who am I to judge?
I don’t like remasters, especially those which are usually just re-release with hi-res textures. They are charging like $30 and above for hi-res texture, and some of them has unstable framerates. At certain point of time, using emulator yields better graphics & performance than some of those remasters, especially for PS1/PS2 games.
On the other hand, I actually like remakes way more.
First of all FF7R
shouldn’t be considered as remake, it should be considered as its own spinoff / sequel
Remake not only exploits that nostalgia, but also tend to make game plays better with added QoL functions, sometimes with new gameplay mechanics. Some of the remakes that I really like:
Yakuza 1+2 Kiwami
Crisis Core
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater
Resident Evil 1+2 (have not played 3+4 remakes yet)
Live a Live
Mass Effect Trilogy (thankfully it’s not just a hi-res port)
Remake is great when there’s a significant technology and time gaps between the games, which is why TLOU remakes drew some ires.
I’d argue that video games need remakes and remasters far more than movies do. Video game technologies change a lot in 10-15 years, so a remake/remaster is an opportunity to improve controls and fix issues with running the game on hardware that hadn’t been concieved at the time of the game’s release. Plenty of old games have severe bugs, outdated controls or general issues with newer hardware (can’t handle widescreen monitors, buttons don’t scale for high resolutions, etc.) which can make replaying them a pain.
You sit down to watch a 25 year old movie and it’s pretty easy to watch, but you sit down to play a 25 year old game and it’s going to vary wildly if you can even get it to run in the first place, let alone if it’ll run well
Yes. It’s like “let’s not pursue new ideas, it’s too risky. Let’s repeat what worked once” - like in the movie industry as well. It’s boring and uninspired.
This is why I’m not happy with there being so many remakes. Remakes are awesome, if it also means we are getting a totally new game as well. Nintendo seems to do this the best. New Mario’s, remakes of Zelda games, new Zelda games, etc.
I do wish they would make a sequel to Mario RPG or make an actual Paper Mario RPG like the first two were.
Yeah, I definitely agree that it’s kind of a systemic problem, and pretty much how things are right now. I don’t really care for that mindset of focusing so much on older games and not prioritizing new ideas or IPs. At the same time, I’m honestly a total sucker for nostalgia, I grew up playing games from like late 90s to mid 2000s, and I would be so stoked if they remade or remastered all those games I grew up on. I would throw money at whoever remastered the Need For Speed games from '98 to '06, as good as those games were for the time, they could look so amazing with modern technology. I wanna relive my teenage years but in 4k :D
I’m fine with remasters that allow us to play old games on modern hardware. I’m somewhat ok with remakes to an extent. I’m not ok with the constant remakes of games that aren’t old enough to need a remake or the original game still holds up. Most recent remakes aren’t needed and feel like cash grabs
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My only problem with the remakes and remasters is that they keep censoring shit that wasn’t even controversial or offensive in the first place.
Heck, with patches these days, you don’t even have to wait for the remaster for censorship CoughSkullGirlsSuperHotVRcough
TLoU2 didn’t need remastering. At least not this soon!
It seems more like a PS5 Upgrade which it never got before. AFAIK you can even upgrade for $10 if you have the original.
The original got a PS5 update to 60 FPS. I think what we’re actually seeing is the remaster that will hit the PC. Same routine as the first game which saw a remaster for the PS5, then the PC and eventually the TV series. No doubt this will fall in line for season 2.
I believe the original is just PS5 enhanced, similar to running it on a PS4 Pro. But it’s still a PS4 game running on the PS5.
I don’t know the ins and outs. But most games like that have an upgrade that makes them into actual PS5 games (like you can only play it through the SSD for example).
Until I get my Legend Of Dragoon remake, there aren’t too many, no. After that ya’ll can do what you want
Taps foot for MegaMan legends 1 & 2.
I so want remakes of these two games.
Those need some serious rework. They manage to look beautiful even today with clever stylization, but the gameplay is ROUGH.
Yes. Just move on and make new games worth playing, instead of rehashing the past. And more often than not, fucking it up in the process. Only our modern society would accept and accommodate a remade game that’s 100% worse than the original.
Nah, there’s just not enough of actual old titles that could do with a remake or remaster.
I just wish the games that are remade/remastered are basically just graphic updates, with some bug fixes and minor qol additions. That’s it. Not like what they did to ff7.
Hell, diablo 2 Remaster was good. The addition of being able to swap between new and old graphics on the fly is amazing tbh.
Plenty of new stuff is still coming out so I can see no reason to be upset about remakes and remasters.
For older games that are difficult to install or run by modern means., I think remakes and remasters are completely justified. Upgrades for older games to support newer technologies is nice, but something like TLoU Part 1 getting two remasters on a platform that has no issue running the first remaster already seems more exploitative and a waste of resources than conservational. If it sells like hotcakes, though, who am I to judge?
I don’t like remasters, especially those which are usually just re-release with hi-res textures. They are charging like $30 and above for hi-res texture, and some of them has unstable framerates. At certain point of time, using emulator yields better graphics & performance than some of those remasters, especially for PS1/PS2 games.
On the other hand, I actually like remakes way more.
First of all FF7R
shouldn’t be considered as remake, it should be considered as its own spinoff / sequel
Remake not only exploits that nostalgia, but also tend to make game plays better with added QoL functions, sometimes with new gameplay mechanics. Some of the remakes that I really like:
Remake is great when there’s a significant technology and time gaps between the games, which is why TLOU remakes drew some ires.
Fucking finally someone gets it!
Ok is this eurogamer cookie request a fucking joke? They care about privacy and they will share information with their 756 partners?
@chloyster we can’t get a remake of KOTOR but somehow we are getting this piece of crap on THE EXACT SAME SYSTEM it was released on.
The last one was PS4 though. I agree it’s unnecessary, but it’s not the exact same system.
I’d argue that video games need remakes and remasters far more than movies do. Video game technologies change a lot in 10-15 years, so a remake/remaster is an opportunity to improve controls and fix issues with running the game on hardware that hadn’t been concieved at the time of the game’s release. Plenty of old games have severe bugs, outdated controls or general issues with newer hardware (can’t handle widescreen monitors, buttons don’t scale for high resolutions, etc.) which can make replaying them a pain.
You sit down to watch a 25 year old movie and it’s pretty easy to watch, but you sit down to play a 25 year old game and it’s going to vary wildly if you can even get it to run in the first place, let alone if it’ll run well
Yes. It’s like “let’s not pursue new ideas, it’s too risky. Let’s repeat what worked once” - like in the movie industry as well. It’s boring and uninspired.
Same for the music industry, just pick some random 90s hit and make it 10 times worse.
This is why I’m not happy with there being so many remakes. Remakes are awesome, if it also means we are getting a totally new game as well. Nintendo seems to do this the best. New Mario’s, remakes of Zelda games, new Zelda games, etc.
I do wish they would make a sequel to Mario RPG or make an actual Paper Mario RPG like the first two were.
Yeah, I definitely agree that it’s kind of a systemic problem, and pretty much how things are right now. I don’t really care for that mindset of focusing so much on older games and not prioritizing new ideas or IPs. At the same time, I’m honestly a total sucker for nostalgia, I grew up playing games from like late 90s to mid 2000s, and I would be so stoked if they remade or remastered all those games I grew up on. I would throw money at whoever remastered the Need For Speed games from '98 to '06, as good as those games were for the time, they could look so amazing with modern technology. I wanna relive my teenage years but in 4k :D
Yes, if it meant that Sony made PlayStation exclusive games available on PC immediately, rather than upon remastering.
No if it meant I’d just never get to play any of thos games.
I’m fine with remasters that allow us to play old games on modern hardware. I’m somewhat ok with remakes to an extent. I’m not ok with the constant remakes of games that aren’t old enough to need a remake or the original game still holds up. Most recent remakes aren’t needed and feel like cash grabs