Well, a fork of Clementine :) Both are great music players that have a playlist-centered approach to music. Have been exclusively using them on my computer since many years.
Keep in mind that software doesn’t have an expiry date. If a piece of software is unmaintained and doesn’t have an active fork but it still fulfills your use case and doesn’t have any major issues, there’s no need to replace it. Some of the software I use hasn’t seen any updates in five years but I still use it because it still works.
Edit: As an example, a lot of people still use WinDirStat even though the latest release 1.1.2 is now 17 years old.
Desktop - Linux - Yes, likely. If not, here’s a flatpak
Desktop - Windows - Maybe it still runs in a compatibility mode?
Desktop - iMac - Here’s an emulator, good luck.
Mobile - PostMarketOS - Yes, likely. If not, here’s a flatpak
Mobile - Android - Maybe? Try it and see if you get permission denial
Mobile - iPhone - Fuck you, no.
Windows is pretty good with backwards compatibility, probably the best out of anything. I can run Visual Basic apps I wrote in the early 2000s on Windows 11 and they still run fine. Some old 32-bit games work fine too. You can even run some 16-bit Windows 3.0 apps on 32-bit Windows 10 if you manually install NTVDM through the Windows features (it was never ported to 64-bit though)
Linux is okay for backcompat but I’m not sure an app I compiled 20 years ago would still run today.
The fact that a compat mode exists means that Microsoft put effort into backwards compatibility. Windows even emulates some old bugs for old popular apps that depended on them. I don’t think any other OS does that.
I don’t like Microsoft Windows at all, but you are absolutely right about doing a good job with backwards compatibility.
Linux isn’t so backwards compatible, but with much of it having open source code, you can often compile it again yourself—tho having been written in a language that offers good backwards compatibility also helps.
I’d say that problems mostly come from the need to update dependencies in case of vulnerabilities being discovered. But not every software needs elevated privileges or can become a vector of attack, I guess
It is. I was just using WinDirStat as an example of an old app that people still use. The 1.1.2 release from 2005 is still downloaded 60,000 times per week according to the stats on the Sourceforge download page.
Damn, there’s an app I haven’t heard of in years. Too bad I don’t have more of a need for a sandbox app than the built in Windows Sandbox app or I might give it a shake.
Windows sandbox sucks, it doesn’t isolate all the way and it doesn’t give you any options for what you might not want to isolate.
With Sandboxie Plus, you can pick and choose exactly what has access to whatever else you can deny admin access to anything you want and you can even fake admin rights to whatever you want. You can’t do that with windows sandbox.
Why not your personal identification PIN number? Gotta be specific. Your personal PIN number is just the one you like, but it identifies nothing. Same with the identification PIN number. It identifies something but not sure what. And a personal identification PIN, well, it identifies someone, and uses a number somewhere.
Oh man, I want to use a longer pin for my card so badly.
From what I understand, the banks mostly support it, the problem is that not all point of sale does. Those terminals are frequently cobbled together with some pretty garbage software and if it’s hard-coded to four digits, whelp, good luck. I hope tap is working… Or NFC or something because otherwise, you’re SOL.
That got me curious. The drink that English speakers often refer to simply as “chai” is the Indian drink masala chai, meaning mixed-spice tea. Chai comes to Hindi through the Cantonese “cha” for tea.
i just want my stuff to update without me having to find out a year later its unmantained and had a fork all along.
or having to watch the repositories of stuff i use for signs it might be unmantained. i didnt know half the (popular!) stuff mentioned here was abandoned then forked.
Yeah, it would be nice if it was easier for devs to just turn over the project to an “official” fork. Unfortunately, I’m sure that would get abused by scammers taking over projects forcefully and adding in malware before anyone notices.
You’re spot on with the latter, I’ve come across a few projects over the years where the ownership is transferred and it’s then loaded up with malware or even just instantly abandoned again because the new owner just wants it on their GitHub to get a job or something.
I’ve come across a few projects over the years where the ownership is transferred and it’s then loaded up with malware
See: The Great Suspender
The original developer sold the repo to a new, anonymous maintainer. The new maintainer abandoned the repo but continued updating the Chrome Web Store version of the addon. That version eventually got delisted by Google for including malware.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !programmerhumor@lemmy.ml
Post funny things about programming here! (Or just rant about your favourite programming language.)
Rules:
Posts must be relevant to programming, programmers, or computer science.
No NSFW content.
Jokes must be in good taste. No hate speech, bigotry, etc.
Yt-dl - > yt-dlp
YT-DL is greater than YT-DLP?
Edit: Oh, it’s an arrow. Got it.
youtube-dl moment
The fork is yt-dlp
It’s still in the Debian repositories, but no yt-dlp yet. Rest in peace youtube-dl
Wow, Debian is that slow?
Yes, my calculator in GNOME is still broken, been about 2 months so far.
If you develop with MySQL on a Mac…
Sequel Pro > Sequel Ace ;)
deleted by creator
Neolink
obs-cli -> obs-cmd :)
obs-powershell when? :-D
Grigio wrote the app in Rust, it’d probably run fine on Windows with a little tweaking and some experimenting. You should reach out and ask :)
https://github.com/grigio/obs-cmd
gqview -> geeqie
Me with Liftoff :)
Is there a fork being maintained? I haven’t seen one. Was just poking around for one yesterday.
Liftoff is no longer maintained right? So what’s the fork?
Clementine -> Strawberry :)
What’s Strawberry?
Well, a fork of Clementine :) Both are great music players that have a playlist-centered approach to music. Have been exclusively using them on my computer since many years.
strawberrymusicplayer.org/
https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry
Amarok -> Clementine -> Strawberry
Keep in mind that software doesn’t have an expiry date. If a piece of software is unmaintained and doesn’t have an active fork but it still fulfills your use case and doesn’t have any major issues, there’s no need to replace it. Some of the software I use hasn’t seen any updates in five years but I still use it because it still works.
Edit: As an example, a lot of people still use WinDirStat even though the latest release 1.1.2 is now 17 years old.
Desktop - Linux - Yes, likely. If not, here’s a flatpak
Desktop - Windows - Maybe it still runs in a compatibility mode?
Desktop - iMac - Here’s an emulator, good luck.
Mobile - PostMarketOS - Yes, likely. If not, here’s a flatpak
Mobile - Android - Maybe? Try it and see if you get permission denial
Mobile - iPhone - Fuck you, no.
Wait, flatpak works on PostMarketOS?
Yep! It’s the default on things like phosh and gnome mobile for packaging apps
Windows is pretty good with backwards compatibility, probably the best out of anything. I can run Visual Basic apps I wrote in the early 2000s on Windows 11 and they still run fine. Some old 32-bit games work fine too. You can even run some 16-bit Windows 3.0 apps on 32-bit Windows 10 if you manually install NTVDM through the Windows features (it was never ported to 64-bit though)
Linux is okay for backcompat but I’m not sure an app I compiled 20 years ago would still run today.
Tell that to video games, which constantly need a compat mode enabled
The fact that a compat mode exists means that Microsoft put effort into backwards compatibility. Windows even emulates some old bugs for old popular apps that depended on them. I don’t think any other OS does that.
I don’t like Microsoft Windows at all, but you are absolutely right about doing a good job with backwards compatibility.
Linux isn’t so backwards compatible, but with much of it having open source code, you can often compile it again yourself—tho having been written in a language that offers good backwards compatibility also helps.
WinDirStat works but is super slow though. WizTree is a much better modern equivalent.
I do like Wiztree, but WinDirStat is still pretty common to see. The 2005 version of WinDirStat still gets around 60,000 downloads per week according to the Sourceforge stats. https://sourceforge.net/projects/windirstat/files/windirstat/1.1.2 installer re-release (more languages!)/stats/timeline
I was just using it as an example of old software that people still use :)
I’d say that problems mostly come from the need to update dependencies in case of vulnerabilities being discovered. But not every software needs elevated privileges or can become a vector of attack, I guess
If a software is compromised to allow remote code execution, then the situation is pretty dire even without elevated privileges.
Basically your entire userspace will be compromised, and in terms of personal computing that is pretty much all you can lose.
Isn’t WizTree a lot faster?
I use windirstat almost monthly and have never heard of WizTree. Keeping this in mind for next time I use it.
Though at this point, maybe I should just commit honestly
Just do it. I was hesitant as well but now there’s no going back. It’s actually like 5x faster.
It is. I was just using WinDirStat as an example of an old app that people still use. The 1.1.2 release from 2005 is still downloaded 60,000 times per week according to the stats on the Sourceforge download page.
Mplayer -> MPV
sandboxie. The final update from the original makers made it open source.
Damn, there’s an app I haven’t heard of in years. Too bad I don’t have more of a need for a sandbox app than the built in Windows Sandbox app or I might give it a shake.
Windows sandbox sucks, it doesn’t isolate all the way and it doesn’t give you any options for what you might not want to isolate.
With Sandboxie Plus, you can pick and choose exactly what has access to whatever else you can deny admin access to anything you want and you can even fake admin rights to whatever you want. You can’t do that with windows sandbox.
That’s a super chill maneuver
RIP revanced extended.
what why??
Not the whole revanced, only extended version. Author just doesn’t want to do it anymore
damn that sucks
“PIN number”
vs.
“FOSS software”
Who’d win in a fight?
DNS system?
Personal PIN number.
Why not your personal identification PIN number? Gotta be specific. Your personal PIN number is just the one you like, but it identifies nothing. Same with the identification PIN number. It identifies something but not sure what. And a personal identification PIN, well, it identifies someone, and uses a number somewhere.
Oh man, I want to use a longer pin for my card so badly.
From what I understand, the banks mostly support it, the problem is that not all point of sale does. Those terminals are frequently cobbled together with some pretty garbage software and if it’s hard-coded to four digits, whelp, good luck. I hope tap is working… Or NFC or something because otherwise, you’re SOL.
Try it out. You may find out that your bank supports much longer pins, but only uses the first four digits anyway.
Truncation is not a good look.
For being an institution that is supposed to be trusted to hold all your money, their security has me scratching my head most of the time.
Y u no COBOL?
The Personal identification number number
ATM Machine
Chai tea
RIP in peace
That got me curious. The drink that English speakers often refer to simply as “chai” is the Indian drink masala chai, meaning mixed-spice tea. Chai comes to Hindi through the Cantonese “cha” for tea.
Koi carp
…to mouth machine?
yo but tbh this gets old.
i just want my stuff to update without me having to find out a year later its unmantained and had a fork all along.
or having to watch the repositories of stuff i use for signs it might be unmantained. i didnt know half the (popular!) stuff mentioned here was abandoned then forked.
libforknotifier when (or even how)?
Yeah, it would be nice if it was easier for devs to just turn over the project to an “official” fork. Unfortunately, I’m sure that would get abused by scammers taking over projects forcefully and adding in malware before anyone notices.
I am pretty sure you can transfer ownership of a repo on GitHub.
You’re spot on with the latter, I’ve come across a few projects over the years where the ownership is transferred and it’s then loaded up with malware or even just instantly abandoned again because the new owner just wants it on their GitHub to get a job or something.
See: The Great Suspender
The original developer sold the repo to a new, anonymous maintainer. The new maintainer abandoned the repo but continued updating the Chrome Web Store version of the addon. That version eventually got delisted by Google for including malware.
I’ve kept away from some projects because it’s just a single dev doing 99.9% of the contributions.