Wouldn’t be surprised if it was to make sure the experienced and mission critical people stick around, instead of jumping off a sinking ship. Downsizing can lead to a panic where you lose the people you vitally need.
Yeah, at this point we’re hitting a level of nuance that would require more information than I have. There was also the surprise budget cut somewhere along the way.
Right. A company that can lose 800 employees doesn’t consider a few million to be that big a deal. Especially if it helps secure future income. Which is kinda the point of the whole thing.
Natpost suddenly forgets that CBC is competing against right-wing controlled private enterprises for the talent they have. If they don’t give bonuses, they will lose the media talent.
I’m curious, did NatPo also cover the fact that Bell was subsidized $40 million by the federal government for losses suffered by Bell Media, a bill pushed forward by the Conservatives and supported by the NDP, only for Bell to turn around, fire thousands, all while giving a 3.5% increase in dividends for shareholders?
So those employees got an average bonus of $13,000. Not nothing, but hardly c-suite insane levels of compensation.
Also, what do the relevant employee contracts look like? A lot of the time bonuses are built into the contract and tied to very specific metrics. If that is the case, the CBC would have to pay out that bonus, regardless of the overall state of the company.
The law doesn’t give a shit about optics. If it’s in the contract, they owe the money. This type of pay structure (base pay + defined bonus) is the norm across many industries, not just media.
Also, these aren’t exec bonuses. CBC does not have 1100 executives.
If you ever feel the need to post a comment just reading “Triggered” please do. It highlights how weak your initial argument was… and at the same time it lets you reinforce your personal bubble because “tHe dOwNvOtEs mEaN I’m rIgHt”
I don’t see any down votes but the replies speak for themselves ;)
Why y’all so salty, tho?
Also nobody addressed core of my argument either. CBC is a corrupt org and we don’t know how this contracts were structured beyond original comment’s trust me bro theory.
Conservatives are obsessed with uncovering any hint of hypocrisy from perceived “liberals”. They believe that if one liberal every did anything remotely hypocritical, that that destroys the entire political ideology of “not being a complete ghoul”.
Subtly over time just shifting the entire conversation more to the right all the time … the extreme far right enters the conversation but is still unacceptable, the right becomes more acceptable, the center becomes the new right, the left moves to the middle, and the left is presented as the far left which becomes unacceptable
CBC kinda sucks, but this is a drop in the bucket compared to the closed-doors deals that Enbridge makes, or Rogers/Bell, or Bombardier. Like, selective outrage is so so so so so stupid.
For fuck’s sake Canadian media is so fucking terrible. Like, there appears to be a complete void of creativity and interest in pursuing interesting Canadian content. Our news agencies are a complete joke too.
Don’t forget our boy Murdoch Mysteries. And did you know that Paw Patrol is Canadian? But back to Murdoch. The doctor on that show is so goddamn hot, just like all Canadians.
The difference being that CBC is funded in large part by our tax dollars, so we have a much more vested interest in how it’s spent than other private companies.
I get the feeling that most people criticizing NatPo are under the impression that they have no real stake in this news just because they “don’t watch CBC”. But believe me, we all do.
The CBC is shit and I don’t want my taxes going towards them (that’s a long bitter story). But I don’t have a choice and no one else does either. So we can at least pay attention when the money is going to the brass instead of the workers.
Edited to add: I’m as left as they come. Don’t mistake this for me thinking that the NatPo is anything less than a right-wing sack of shit publication. But even the worst person you know can make a decent point every now and again.
Basically, it boils down to the fact that in exchange for public funds, the CBC has a mandate to provide access to ALL Canadians.
So back in 2011, they decide they are going to shut down all of their analog broadcast towers for over-the-air signal since, they said it would cost “x” amount (I don’t remember the exact amount that long ago) to maintain them until 2035 or so.
So this left only the digital towers, which only covered the bigger cities. If you were too far out of a major city you were shit out of luck for over the air service.
Their argument, when people like me piped up, was that we could still access it through a cable subscription, which (in my opinion) is a blatant breach of their contract.
Why are my taxes going to fund something that I THEN have to pay another service for in order to access?
To me, and others back then, a mandate to provide access to ALL Canadians is exactly that…full stop; no extra subscriptions needed. No cable package, no internet, nothing.
If you are taking public money to provide a service, you provide that service no…matter…what. Otherwise, let me choose to not have a cut of my taxes given to you.
Two months after that decision, CBC bid for, and paid, that exact same amount of money to get the broadcast rights to the next Olympics, which no broadcaster has EVER turned a profit on.
So me, and others, felt (I feel) rightfully fucked over.
As I said, I’m about as left as they come, and I WAS a supporter of the CBC up until that point. But yeah…after that, fuck 'em.
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So on average a 13k bonus per employee that got one
And if we say average salary is 60k * 800
48 million was taken off the books.
Math seems to suggest they aren’t related
Wouldn’t the math would also suggest they could have retained 1/3 of the fired employees if they’d forgone the bonuses?
If the budget is so tight that they have to fire hundreds of employees, why are bonuses deserved?
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was to make sure the experienced and mission critical people stick around, instead of jumping off a sinking ship. Downsizing can lead to a panic where you lose the people you vitally need.
Yeah, at this point we’re hitting a level of nuance that would require more information than I have. There was also the surprise budget cut somewhere along the way.
Right. A company that can lose 800 employees doesn’t consider a few million to be that big a deal. Especially if it helps secure future income. Which is kinda the point of the whole thing.
Natpost suddenly forgets that CBC is competing against right-wing controlled private enterprises for the talent they have. If they don’t give bonuses, they will lose the media talent.
I suspect even CBC contractors get paid better than folks in the private sector. The salaried employees definitely do.
Good. I’m glad that my tax dollars are going towards good jobs with fair wages.
Oh they are fully aware of that. That’s why they wrote this article
I’m curious, did NatPo also cover the fact that Bell was subsidized $40 million by the federal government for losses suffered by Bell Media, a bill pushed forward by the Conservatives and supported by the NDP, only for Bell to turn around, fire thousands, all while giving a 3.5% increase in dividends for shareholders?
I’m pretty pissed about that too. All corporate subsidies need to end
So those employees got an average bonus of $13,000. Not nothing, but hardly c-suite insane levels of compensation.
Also, what do the relevant employee contracts look like? A lot of the time bonuses are built into the contract and tied to very specific metrics. If that is the case, the CBC would have to pay out that bonus, regardless of the overall state of the company.
Using tax payer money on ezec bonus while doing lay offs is bad optic no matter what contract says.
With that being said… Shouldn’t these contract be public record and should not we know how this clown situation came to be?
The law doesn’t give a shit about optics. If it’s in the contract, they owe the money. This type of pay structure (base pay + defined bonus) is the norm across many industries, not just media.
Also, these aren’t exec bonuses. CBC does not have 1100 executives.
Triggered
Doofus.
Yea yea yea, we know facts trigger you, you don’t need to shout it.
If you ever feel the need to post a comment just reading “Triggered” please do. It highlights how weak your initial argument was… and at the same time it lets you reinforce your personal bubble because “tHe dOwNvOtEs mEaN I’m rIgHt”
I don’t see any down votes but the replies speak for themselves ;)
Why y’all so salty, tho?
Also nobody addressed core of my argument either. CBC is a corrupt org and we don’t know how this contracts were structured beyond original comment’s trust me bro theory.
If this is so cut and dry, release the docs!
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I don’t get the NatPo’s issue with this. They want the CBC to be more like a business, more conservative and less progressive, right?
Isn’t this exactly what Conrad or Izzy would have done?
Nat post wants their competition to go away
They’re putting in overtime licking PP’s boots.
Conservatives are obsessed with uncovering any hint of hypocrisy from perceived “liberals”. They believe that if one liberal every did anything remotely hypocritical, that that destroys the entire political ideology of “not being a complete ghoul”.
The issue is the CBC is state owned, so it’s the enemy. They go off on the NFB too.
The Overton Window
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
Subtly over time just shifting the entire conversation more to the right all the time … the extreme far right enters the conversation but is still unacceptable, the right becomes more acceptable, the center becomes the new right, the left moves to the middle, and the left is presented as the far left which becomes unacceptable
She’s laughing all the way to the bank.
I’m not saying that’s a small salary but compared to a lot of CEOs that’s nothing
Most CEOs make their money in stocks and bonuses, neither of which falls into the salary category.
BBC’s CEO salary is equivalent to $904k CAD.
Once again, a big nothingburger from NatPo.
CBC kinda sucks, but this is a drop in the bucket compared to the closed-doors deals that Enbridge makes, or Rogers/Bell, or Bombardier. Like, selective outrage is so so so so so stupid.
For fuck’s sake Canadian media is so fucking terrible. Like, there appears to be a complete void of creativity and interest in pursuing interesting Canadian content. Our news agencies are a complete joke too.
Yes. Agreed. Except schitts creek and baroness von sketch. And working moms. But still agreed.
Don’t forget our boy Murdoch Mysteries. And did you know that Paw Patrol is Canadian? But back to Murdoch. The doctor on that show is so goddamn hot, just like all Canadians.
The difference being that CBC is funded in large part by our tax dollars, so we have a much more vested interest in how it’s spent than other private companies.
I get the feeling that most people criticizing NatPo are under the impression that they have no real stake in this news just because they “don’t watch CBC”. But believe me, we all do.
The CBC is shit and I don’t want my taxes going towards them (that’s a long bitter story). But I don’t have a choice and no one else does either. So we can at least pay attention when the money is going to the brass instead of the workers.
Edited to add: I’m as left as they come. Don’t mistake this for me thinking that the NatPo is anything less than a right-wing sack of shit publication. But even the worst person you know can make a decent point every now and again.
I mean, …
tell the story, or don’t?
Basically, it boils down to the fact that in exchange for public funds, the CBC has a mandate to provide access to ALL Canadians.
So back in 2011, they decide they are going to shut down all of their analog broadcast towers for over-the-air signal since, they said it would cost “x” amount (I don’t remember the exact amount that long ago) to maintain them until 2035 or so.
So this left only the digital towers, which only covered the bigger cities. If you were too far out of a major city you were shit out of luck for over the air service.
Their argument, when people like me piped up, was that we could still access it through a cable subscription, which (in my opinion) is a blatant breach of their contract.
Why are my taxes going to fund something that I THEN have to pay another service for in order to access?
To me, and others back then, a mandate to provide access to ALL Canadians is exactly that…full stop; no extra subscriptions needed. No cable package, no internet, nothing.
If you are taking public money to provide a service, you provide that service no…matter…what. Otherwise, let me choose to not have a cut of my taxes given to you.
Two months after that decision, CBC bid for, and paid, that exact same amount of money to get the broadcast rights to the next Olympics, which no broadcaster has EVER turned a profit on.
So me, and others, felt (I feel) rightfully fucked over.
As I said, I’m about as left as they come, and I WAS a supporter of the CBC up until that point. But yeah…after that, fuck 'em.
14,902,755/1,143 ~= 13,000
A nice bonus, but not entirely unreasonable for a professional. I have no idea how evenly that was spread out exactly.