There are rumors that this was an emotional decision from muskrat, and they will probably be offered their jobs back. Just rumors, but still would not be surprising
One article I read said he likes to fire whole teams and then see which people are asked about. Those are the ones he rehires. If nobody misses you then you were doing a job of value.
From a human level, this is just shitty. It isn’t the way to treat people.
Who would take them? I mean, I guess you gotta get paid, but when someone demonstrated that they can just drop you with zero warning, trust is negative at that point.
Oh I agree. There have to be rival companies looking for that exact experience right now. They should not have too much trouble being hired on one of the myriad charging companies out there
Jesus when are stockholders going to realize what he’s like at the helm and kick him out of CEO? This is the first thing I’ve heard about Musk doing anything with Tesla since Twitter happened. How do stockholders trust this man. Throwing away everything about him, this is an absent CEO who learned about one project that everyone was watching, he comes in, kicks down the door, and first response is to fire the whole team. To me, that says “this company is a shitshow”
I have no doubt he will get his blasted pay raise, but it went from being a “surefire bet” to a “bet” in the past few weeks. Collapses usually start slow and then they pick up speed
There is one stockholder that has tried multiple times. The issue is the whole Tesla board are all his cronies, and a large portion of stockholders have bought into the cult of personality
Before his Twitter addiction it was much easier to think of him as a rich genius like you see in comic books, mostly since nobody knew what he was thinking. He’s also managed a celebrity-like persona that someone like robot Mark Zuckerberg could never pull off. That and money will always get hangers on.
It’s the weird magic of leftist reality: Elon Musk of all people has a cult of personality. The man is the most boring person I’ve ever heard speak, ever, and yet somehow he’s just coasting on this “cult of personality”.
Either he’s breaking all the molds, or there was no mold to begin with.
Musk isn’t left though? He is very far right. He gained popularity by keeping quiet (at first) and doing stuff like promising not to sue companies that use their patents, and developing a ton of EV infrastructure. Turns out he couldn’t keep his mouth shut and is also just a rich asshole. But a lot of people bought in early and made loving Elon a personality trait. So here we are
It’s the Hummer EV. It is…a lot. Honestly, if someone is going to buy a Hummer, I’d rather they buy the EV. But yeah, way too big and pretty inefficient
With this move Tesla effectively gave up on the $7.5 billion package from the us government to build new infrastructure. Since it was paid with private money, it doesn’t require to be nationalized. It’s also accessible to anyone, with prices that are reasonable
Also, I don’t know how efficient is the government in the usa, but in my country the chargers built by the semi-nationalized electric company are almost always broken because they don’t really care about profits, they have the unlimited government budget, so what’s the issue if a charger breaks and gets fixed after 2 years, making zero revenue during that time?
Any H1B visa hostage can pick up someone else’s work on xitter for slave hours, but for cars you need experience, talent and know how. If you fire a whole team to save $x, then you gotta pay $5x to rebuild that team when you eventually need it. (Tesla probably needs a team to develop new models, eventually. Same for the policy team, useful to launch the auto taxi when it exits from beta in 2045
Ford and GM are probably regretting that switch to NACS…
Why? For one, Ford has scaled back it’s EV transition in favor of hybrids now, and two, there’s now a bunch of engineers looking for a job and charging sites up for grabs
Last I heard Ford scaled back EV expansion because they overestimated adoption based on the sales of the Lightning, but they were still planning on an increase in production. Just not the 50% estimate they started with.
Not to mention, it’s a standard now, and the old Supercharger protocol is being phased out in favor of another standardized one (I forget which). Further development done on their chargers from here on out is going to be done by a consortium of companies rather than in-house anyway.
J1772 is great for home charging, but for charging on road trips you really need CCS or NACS. The good news is NACS is being adopted as an SAE standard (J3400)
This is bad for us too, because cars were already being developed with NACS since CCS “lost the war” in the US. What kind of uptake will those cars have with a network that has completely stopped growing because manbaby decided to take his toys and go home?
The auto manufacturers will blame everything but the fact that most EVs are overpriced and overcomplicated to compensate for them being ultra-reliable and no longer in need of constant maintenance. This country already killed EVs once, don’t put it past capitalism to try a second time.
0.69? Here they take 0.89 which is a nice 1000% markup over the electricity price. And the shame is that everyone copied the insane pricing, still blaming “sorry the war in Ukraine forces us to double the prices” even if they now came back to what they were in the beginning of 2021
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I really want to see the email/message exchange preceding some of these changes at twitter/Tesla.
Is there any pushback/discussion any more, or does Elon just say jump and entire departments vanish?
There are rumors that this was an emotional decision from muskrat, and they will probably be offered their jobs back. Just rumors, but still would not be surprising
One article I read said he likes to fire whole teams and then see which people are asked about. Those are the ones he rehires. If nobody misses you then you were doing a job of value.
From a human level, this is just shitty. It isn’t the way to treat people.
it’s also not a good way of actually figuring out who is critical.
you can have people who keep the lights on and if they do their job right few even notice they exist.
He sees his employees like slaves as his parents did
That’s not how research & development works. Nobody asks for a specific person there. Stuff just doesn’t get done.
Could be supervillain problems 🤣 comments about wishing someone would go away and an underling resolves it’s in a more permanent way …
Probably not, it’s just that his entire exec team are spineless henchman.
I think the spacex team is still independent (ish) for now, I fear for them though!
Well, the exact rumor is he did it to show that he is serious about staffing cuts and that no team is safe, and just made an arbitrary decision
With that kind of leadership we should be thankful he can’t run for president, or he’d end up voted in.
Who would take them? I mean, I guess you gotta get paid, but when someone demonstrated that they can just drop you with zero warning, trust is negative at that point.
Oh I agree. There have to be rival companies looking for that exact experience right now. They should not have too much trouble being hired on one of the myriad charging companies out there
Especially since the other companies were planning to support the Tesla network…
I’d rejoin for double the wage I previously had. Need to build up an emergency fund for this precarious position.
Rumors or wishful thinking, I wonder
Jesus when are stockholders going to realize what he’s like at the helm and kick him out of CEO? This is the first thing I’ve heard about Musk doing anything with Tesla since Twitter happened. How do stockholders trust this man. Throwing away everything about him, this is an absent CEO who learned about one project that everyone was watching, he comes in, kicks down the door, and first response is to fire the whole team. To me, that says “this company is a shitshow”
I have no doubt he will get his blasted pay raise, but it went from being a “surefire bet” to a “bet” in the past few weeks. Collapses usually start slow and then they pick up speed
Maybe he’s looking to retire and the board wants to make whoever follows him look like a godsend.
There is one stockholder that has tried multiple times. The issue is the whole Tesla board are all his cronies, and a large portion of stockholders have bought into the cult of personality
It’s amazing that someone with such a garbage personality has a cult of personality.
It’s the confidence with which he sprouts his nonsense. People flock to confident personalities, because they must know a lot of things (presumably).
Before his Twitter addiction it was much easier to think of him as a rich genius like you see in comic books, mostly since nobody knew what he was thinking. He’s also managed a celebrity-like persona that someone like robot Mark Zuckerberg could never pull off. That and money will always get hangers on.
It is not uncommon
It’s the weird magic of leftist reality: Elon Musk of all people has a cult of personality. The man is the most boring person I’ve ever heard speak, ever, and yet somehow he’s just coasting on this “cult of personality”.
Either he’s breaking all the molds, or there was no mold to begin with.
Musk isn’t left though? He is very far right. He gained popularity by keeping quiet (at first) and doing stuff like promising not to sue companies that use their patents, and developing a ton of EV infrastructure. Turns out he couldn’t keep his mouth shut and is also just a rich asshole. But a lot of people bought in early and made loving Elon a personality trait. So here we are
not only the board won’t fire him, but probably would even vote towards approving that bonus he’s craving
What’s the top left car for? Hauling crocodiles in a Florida’ swamp?
It’s the Hummer EV. It is…a lot. Honestly, if someone is going to buy a Hummer, I’d rather they buy the EV. But yeah, way too big and pretty inefficient
government should either nationalise teslas network or work with other companies to switch to a new standard
Good news! NACS is being adopted as an SAE standard (J3400)
With this move Tesla effectively gave up on the $7.5 billion package from the us government to build new infrastructure. Since it was paid with private money, it doesn’t require to be nationalized. It’s also accessible to anyone, with prices that are reasonable
Also, I don’t know how efficient is the government in the usa, but in my country the chargers built by the semi-nationalized electric company are almost always broken because they don’t really care about profits, they have the unlimited government budget, so what’s the issue if a charger breaks and gets fixed after 2 years, making zero revenue during that time?
This team will hopefully find jobs elsewhere very easily. Competitors should take this opportunity to hire skilled workers.
Any H1B visa hostage can pick up someone else’s work on xitter for slave hours, but for cars you need experience, talent and know how. If you fire a whole team to save $x, then you gotta pay $5x to rebuild that team when you eventually need it. (Tesla probably needs a team to develop new models, eventually. Same for the policy team, useful to launch the auto taxi when it exits from beta in 2045
Why? For one, Ford has scaled back it’s EV transition in favor of hybrids now, and two, there’s now a bunch of engineers looking for a job and charging sites up for grabs
Make the Maverick a plug in hybrid already!
That’s true, a lot of talent now available.
Last I heard Ford scaled back EV expansion because they overestimated adoption based on the sales of the Lightning, but they were still planning on an increase in production. Just not the 50% estimate they started with.
Not to mention, it’s a standard now, and the old Supercharger protocol is being phased out in favor of another standardized one (I forget which). Further development done on their chargers from here on out is going to be done by a consortium of companies rather than in-house anyway.
He really wants that 56 billion bonus huh?
Laughs in J1772 + CCS
J1772 is great for home charging, but for charging on road trips you really need CCS or NACS. The good news is NACS is being adopted as an SAE standard (J3400)
You’re right!
This is bad for us too, because cars were already being developed with NACS since CCS “lost the war” in the US. What kind of uptake will those cars have with a network that has completely stopped growing because manbaby decided to take his toys and go home?
The auto manufacturers will blame everything but the fact that most EVs are overpriced and overcomplicated to compensate for them being ultra-reliable and no longer in need of constant maintenance. This country already killed EVs once, don’t put it past capitalism to try a second time.
If the Tesla Network fails then anyone with a Tesla plug will just buy an adapter to whatever standard does take over.
The good news is that NACS is being adopted as an SAE standard (J3400), so further development is outside Tesla.
Looks like the team knew what was going on, three weeks ago the main European competitor hired this Tesla supercharger manager as CEO https://newmobility.news/2024/04/18/ionity-snaps-up-tesla-supercharger-europe-boss-as-new-ceo/
That’s a shame because ionity is absolute trash.
0.69 EUR/kWh is a robbery and requiring a subscription to fill your car cheaper is a scam. They are doing it with taxpayers’ money as well.
Imagine a publicly funded gas station with those conditions and people would lose their mind.
0.69? Here they take 0.89 which is a nice 1000% markup over the electricity price. And the shame is that everyone copied the insane pricing, still blaming “sorry the war in Ukraine forces us to double the prices” even if they now came back to what they were in the beginning of 2021
that’s it, that’s the whole toot