Pierre Poilievre has renewed his pledge to "defund the CBC" after the board of directors for CBC and Radio-Canada has approved bonuses.
BarqsHasBite
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As more and more traditional media die, the more we need CBC. It’s only becoming more important.

Beaver [she/her]
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As much as I like the cbc, the upper management should not be handing out bonuses while workers are being laid off.

m-p{3}
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Some of these bonuses are part of the performance evaluation they already signed on and whether they met these objectives or not. You can’t really go back on an agreement made before the cuts.

That should be good news to the staff being let go. Pretty sure they had agreements too.

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Most of those initial job cuts before the funding issue was fixed were vacant positions that were abolished and not fulfilled, which were already budgeted for.

That’s not how bonuses work.

This move was greedy on the part of management in the CBC and they should better structure their compensation.

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Which is funny, because these types–Welch-style managers–are exactly Pierre’s people.

You’d think he’d be in favour of wealthy upper taking bonuses while the workers are ground into paste.

BarqsHasBite
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That’s only for private, money making companies.

@Kichae@lemmy.ca
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No, they’re happy to pay their friends from the public purse, too. They’re just not also above throwing those friends under the bus when they think it’s politically advantageous.

Especially if they were someone else’s friend.

They aren’t kissing his ass, or harper’s as, or even the specific asses of the correct Conservative donors. That or they went to the wrong school…

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Please show your proof that CBC abused its funding.

I’ll wait.

Most people would just say CBC should be run differently, but everyone familiar with the Conservatives know they really just itching to do a fire sale for all crown properties.

The CBC is a big part of the reason Canada isn’t as messed up as the US.

Canada has for-profit media and plenty of media that leans left or right. But, CBC exists to anchor that media universe with a boring, institutionalist, honest view.

The US has NPR and PBS but I’m guessing they’re not as influential as the CBC is in Canada

And they’ve already had massive funding cuts and corporate sponsors stepped in.

I don’t even think PBS & NPR are as well funded (though I don’t have sources to support that). That’s why they’re always doing telethons and thanking “viewers like you” for supporting their programming.

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So why so you think poliviere is trying to get rid of it?

CBC has too much of a pro fact bias

“Reality has a well known liberal bias”

Unless it would cost them money.

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Not sure if you’re joking or serious

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Thanks

Avec plaisir!

acargitz
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Hey, Ontario dumbfucks, stop voting CPC. You can swing this election.

Lol, I have been voting since the 2000’s and never voted CPC or any other Conservative party until 2019 (and still haven’t provincially)… Provide me with an alternate that leaves both the Liberals and NDP without power and I’ll gladly not vote CPC this time around.

Full disclosure: I’ve recently been considering voting PPC for the first time.

acargitz
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Greens.

I actually joined their party once to vote for a new leader. My person lost and with the shitshow that followed I’ll be avoiding them too.

acargitz
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And you’re swinging from the Greens to the far right PPC? Bruh.

I have never actuslly voted Green in an election.

Also, I believe the PPC is more libertarian than right but i could be wrong.

I mean, how socially regressive is too regressive to be libertarian? They’ve been pretty clear on their stances with respect to immigrants and other minorities.

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Without socialist economics, libertarianism is extremely regressive, as it just means turning the economic power of the ruling class into the only power that exists. North American libertarianism is far right as fuck.

(If you want to see what libertarianism plus socialism looks like, google Errico Malatesta.)

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I won’t be voting for the Liberal party again unless they give us the electoral reform they promised us and didn’t deliver when they had a majority government.

I’m hopeful for a strong NDP opposition to a Conservative minority.

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A-B-C

Jerkface (any/all)
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Ontario is a brain injury.

The conservatives truly want to destroy Canada, they look to the south, see the divided country down there, and say “yes, please, some of that up here”

The CBC doesn’t do a perfect job but it’s far better than not having them.

That said it’s often better to look at foreign reporting of your country to get a better perspective.

I like the BBC for that with regards to Canada and either BBC or CBC for the US.

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Yup, CBC can be hit or miss on our local oligarchs.

The swarm of bots on Youtube just simultaneously creamed themselves.

Jerkface (any/all)
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How come no one talks about how the CBC has clearly been under attack by armies of pretend people probably funded by foreign governments for like a decade

Publicly funded independent journalism helps prevent the spread of misinformation. China and Russia’s foreign interference is already working, and they finally have enough leverage that they can try to eliminate the CBC.

The echo chamber of social media algorithms is driven disproportionately by early interaction, and with sophisticated content farms dodging spam detection when they pile on their own posts, Russia and China are able to shift dialogue in their direction of choice. It’s a shockingly effective strategy, and it’s slowly dismantling Western power and influence.

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This has been my suspicion for a long time. I feel like this technology started bearing fruit in a big way in like 2018-2019 when things started going fucking weird. I think Brexit was the first major world-changing victory of these psychological warfare campaigns.

I listen and enjoy listening to CBC radio.

This would actually make my day to day life worse and I doubt he would give me a tax break that would be worth it.

There wouldnt be a single dollar tax break on the middle class…

On the rich, on the other hand.

Even the carbon tax is only a net loss for the most polluting and usually richest Canadians.

(Well, unless you include lost growth, but at that rate you should include the cost of climate change too, and it’s a net gain for almost everyone)

I suppose that anyone that cannot see the similarities between Squinty McProudBoy and trump will be voting for Squinty McProudBoy and his base of white supremacists, fascists, racists, misogynists and assholes.

He doesn’t seem very much like Trump to me, and I definitely won’t be voting for him.

Like, he seems bad, but let’s not cheapen actual fascism.

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I can hardly wait to not vote for this guy.

Any problems the CBC has will be dwarfed by the massive problems having a for profit media cause.

When money becomes the only goal, society will be harmed.

@kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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When money becomes the only goal, society will be harmed.

That’s true in every part of society, not only the media.

I don’t necessarily agree. There are some industries where the market is free enough that competition really does work.

Just not things like housing, healthcare, and the media.

We can go back to “reforms” Harper government done like muzzling scientists and defunding projects serving public interest. Of course those same people would want to defund the only outlet not in their pockets. I haven’t seen a single point on Conservative agenda that is not going to harm average person short or long term. yet people still vote them in and Liberals behaving like entitled pricks do not make situation any better. Even NDP has shifted to the right. There’s no federal party with representation in Parliament that has workers as a central point of their agenda. Everything is now about business which is very much not the same

Trudeau has run his course and has become too entrenched. People are screaming for change and we never vote NDP. Pollieve is poison. He’s going to gut our desperately needed social programs for tax cuts that benefit corporations the most.

@floofloof@lemmy.ca
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I will never understand the thing about Canadians refusing to vote for the only major party that plans to actually improve their lives.

screams

Bob Rae!!!

Jerkface (any/all)
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Bob Rae was and still is an excellent leader and statesman.

@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca
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Yup. But Cons scream about him every time you bring up the NDP as an alternative.

We are essentially the same as America, a two-party system.

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It seems that way if you don’t know your history.

@kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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I’ve voted NDP many times over the years.

But when they run a non-viable seat filler in my riding, voting ABC becomes the pragmatic choice.

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Induced behaviour. If the NDP was promising to roll over for every major corporation the way the LPC and CPC do, I’m sure the public would suddenly find that they’ve always loved the NDP, can’t remember any other way. Our collective memory is curated.

I will never understand the NDP not switching their leadership and messaging.

Singh is not going to win. They need a more pro worker and pro jobs message.

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funny thing but if you look closely the most positive that have been done lately was coming from NDP and kindly forced onto Liberals. So i reality NDP doesn’t need to win (like everyone said - populous is color blind to orange) they need another minority where they hold balance of power in their hands. So I wouldn’t write off Singh as he properly played his cards so far. Yeah, he’s not Jack but he did put policies forward and got them in through Libs. It must be residual US thing where Social Democrats == Commies == enemies of the state

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With our current system you either vote strategically or with your heart, and those are often conflicting. Either I vote with my heart (NDP), or I vote strategically (LPC) to counter the CPC.

I’d like to at least see the approval voting system one day.

Only fools would conclude that the problem of executive bonuses is caused by a public funding model. If you thought private companies don’t hand out outlandish bonuses to executives, you haven’t been paying attention.

Also, bonuses are also explicitly part of many compensation packages. It’s contractually required for them to be paid, in many cases.

There are lots of reasons why this is done, too; for example, it can be used to reduce risk. If bonuses are tied to the success of a program, then the CBC doesn’t pay as much for “duds” that don’t earn as much revenue.

@smokescreen@lemmy.ca
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CBC is a mid news outlet, some bad reporting, some good reporting, I can see the benifit of their execs getting a pay cut, but overall is ok.

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