OTTAWA – Federal NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said Tuesday he received an intelligence briefing about allegations that the Indian government could be behind the killing of a Sikh gurdwara leader in...
When US says they have intel, why the fuck you even question it? Your android, apple devices data is with the US government. India, get your act together and go to jail.
I trust Singhs character more than any other, I just can’t get behind his platform entirely. I support mostly everything in the platform, I just don’t know how we would pay for it all. I think Trudeau spends too much, I imagine the NDP would spend even more.
The Conservative leader has called on Trudeau to “come clean” about the evidence behind the allegation against India, saying Canadians deserve more facts.
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Of course he’s gonna complain about it instead of getting his clearance to review the material and make a well-informed complaint about it.
Poilievre needs to grow up put on pants and be a man. How the F are you expected to exercise judgement as a leader without getting proper security clearance? Are you hiding something?
Last I checked, his main platform points are the same old rich-get-richer conservative talking points sold as “more money in your pockets dear cocitizens” with a new layer of MAGA-lite coat of paint.
Housing? Give tax breaks to real estate developers so we can have more landlords! Not that I’m adverse to supply side solutions, any port in a storm and all that, but how’s that greenbelt deal going for Ford? Likewise, it seems to be classic neo-con, with lots of inaction on climate.
The biggest thing seems to be trying to avoid ending up like O’Toole, and just not make any solid statements towards any issue and instead just point at Trudeau and whine.
He’s certainly leaving into the whole “vibes” thing. I guess it’s kind of working.
Really. He’s supposed to be the leader of the Loyal Opposition. If he’s not privy to intelligence he can’t really understand what’s in the national interest. So he doesn’t know when it’s time to be loyal and when it’s time to be in opposition.
With the China thing he showed incompetence even at Trudeau hating. Had this big scandal dropped in his lap, then got distracted by some changes to passport pages. Who even noticed there were watermarked images in our passports, much less cared that they were being changed?
He was an MP for many years, with Rick Mercer mocking him for getting a MP pension at age 31. How can he not get security clearance by now? Something doesn’t pass the smell test.
The Conservative leader has called on Trudeau to “come clean” about the evidence behind the allegation against India, saying Canadians deserve more facts.
Singh said Tuesday he does not support that call.
“They’re matters of national security and so information cannot be released beyond the general statements that were released,” he said.
Oh look, Poilievre’s taking childish populist shots while Singh is acting like a grown-up. What a surprise.
What I don’t understand is even if this “clear intelligence” is 100% confirmed and not Canada’s low key version of “weapons of mass destruction,” why is this playing out over public channels like a reality TV show? With diplomatic norms in mind, I would expect this is the kind of thing that should be discussed behind closed doors only (not leaving out families involved) until/unless proven in the courts.
Is there some reason I’m not thinking of that tensions should be stoked even if there is still a chance they can be averted? Normally this kind of info would only be revealed if there was a case being made for a certain plan of action, but it’s pointed out in the article that the investigation is underway. What is the goal of disseminating this?
Quote of the US Ambassador, from the article:
He said he does not generally comment on “private diplomatic conversations,” but added: “There was a lot of communication between Canada and the United States about this, and I think that’s as far as I’m comfortable going.”
While details are classified, this just sounds like gossip. :/
It’s already been heavily reported that Canadian officials did bring this up with Indian officials behind closed doors. India refused to assist in any way. So now the government is going public because a) Canadians deserve to know what’s going on and that they’re defending our sovereignty, and b) to create pressure on the Indian government.
I appreciate your response. I’d already considered those reports so I can see this is just something I’ll have to be in the minority on. To me, it’s similar to how (as a parallel) news channels have for decades reported specific crime incidents in a more entertainment-focused fashion that doesn’t help anyone, and just seems to be about titillating people who are into true crime instead of talking about overall statistical trends, expectations, &/or possible policy adjustments.
What do we, as Canadians, do with this knowledge? How does it help us or make us safer? What do Indian Canadians, travellers, and people who do business with India do with this info? Just feels like we’re jumping the gun with our collective national sentiments of late, and it reminds me a lot of certain volatile eras of past history.
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If pp would quit being a fucking child and just get his security clearance he could read the intelligence briefing too.
Yeah, but then it would be harder to harangue the PM about this. He’s said as much.
Maybe he’s afraid the public will find out he’s ineligible for some reason…
He looks so bad. You want to lead this country? Rock Hairhare needs to up his game
When US says they have intel, why the fuck you even question it? Your android, apple devices data is with the US government. India, get your act together and go to jail.
How to put India behind bars? 🤔
Iraq’s WMD.
What’s WMD?
“Weapon of Mass Destruction”, its a pretext the US has used to invade other countries in the past
Fucking US always pull shit like this. Hahaha guess that’s what makes us the most powerful country in the world.
Out of all of Canada’s party leaders, In trust this Guy’s take, substantially more than the other two. ‘Millhouse’ being the least trusted one.
I trust Singhs character more than any other, I just can’t get behind his platform entirely. I support mostly everything in the platform, I just don’t know how we would pay for it all. I think Trudeau spends too much, I imagine the NDP would spend even more.
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Nice! Also, austerity is proven again and again to be counterproductive.
Of course he’s gonna complain about it instead of getting his clearance to review the material and make a well-informed complaint about it.
Poilievre needs to grow up put on pants and be a man. How the F are you expected to exercise judgement as a leader without getting proper security clearance? Are you hiding something?
No no! See it’s all Justin! Just-insecurity!
Also, no comment on abortion, LGBT+ rights, indigenous affairs…
Did I wink? No I don’t recall that. I just need to go hang out with these very fine people over here protesting at hospitals and schools.
But seriously, PP isn’t really selling policy per se. He mostly just seems to be jumping on the F∆ck Trudeau bandwagon.
I’m sure he’s got some policy platforms, but it’s certainly not his main talking points.
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He doesn’t have any. That’s the problem.
Last I checked, his main platform points are the same old rich-get-richer conservative talking points sold as “more money in your pockets dear cocitizens” with a new layer of MAGA-lite coat of paint.
That’s my impression as well.
Housing? Give tax breaks to real estate developers so we can have more landlords! Not that I’m adverse to supply side solutions, any port in a storm and all that, but how’s that greenbelt deal going for Ford? Likewise, it seems to be classic neo-con, with lots of inaction on climate.
The biggest thing seems to be trying to avoid ending up like O’Toole, and just not make any solid statements towards any issue and instead just point at Trudeau and whine.
He’s certainly leaving into the whole “vibes” thing. I guess it’s kind of working.
Yes. He’s hiding that he’s part of the same organization as Modi, and that organization is led by Stephen Harper.
It has a goal of infecting global politics with far right rhetoric.
Really. He’s supposed to be the leader of the Loyal Opposition. If he’s not privy to intelligence he can’t really understand what’s in the national interest. So he doesn’t know when it’s time to be loyal and when it’s time to be in opposition.
Yeah he’s not coming across as someone ready for the responsibility of being prime minister.
He did the same thing with the China scandal, refused to get briefed and then complained he wasn’t briefed.
With the China thing he showed incompetence even at Trudeau hating. Had this big scandal dropped in his lap, then got distracted by some changes to passport pages. Who even noticed there were watermarked images in our passports, much less cared that they were being changed?
The guy is just an idiot all around.
I liked the old passport design a lot, but the new one makes me remember all the joys of growing up in Canada, which I’m also happy to look at.
He was an MP for many years, with Rick Mercer mocking him for getting a MP pension at age 31. How can he not get security clearance by now? Something doesn’t pass the smell test.
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And still people wanna vote for his dumb ass.
I never expected Canada and India would be primary belligerents in WW3… who’s making these bingo cards anyway?
You guys are complete nuts if you believe there’s going to be any war because of this, let alone WW3.
I think everyone knows that, it’s a joke.
Canada now is like groundskeeper Willie, ranting on how Canada makes natural enemies of everyone, including Canada.
I think Singh weighing in adds a lot of credibility to Trudeau actions
Top-Secret security clearances should be mandatory for all party leaders and deputy leaders.
Pierre Poilievre is a coward.
And if they can’t get their clearance then they should be required to step down as they can’t accomplish their role.
Pierre Poilievre is a snivelling little weasel.
“I dont want security clearance I want to be mad” -PP
Oh look, Poilievre’s taking childish populist shots while Singh is acting like a grown-up. What a surprise.
Pierre is that “I dont want solutions I want to be mad” meme incarnate.
The guy was invited to see the evidence and won’t go. What a joke.
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They interviewed the former head of CSIS and he said the same thing. Can’t reveal your sources because it puts it at risk.
What I don’t understand is even if this “clear intelligence” is 100% confirmed and not Canada’s low key version of “weapons of mass destruction,” why is this playing out over public channels like a reality TV show? With diplomatic norms in mind, I would expect this is the kind of thing that should be discussed behind closed doors only (not leaving out families involved) until/unless proven in the courts.
Is there some reason I’m not thinking of that tensions should be stoked even if there is still a chance they can be averted? Normally this kind of info would only be revealed if there was a case being made for a certain plan of action, but it’s pointed out in the article that the investigation is underway. What is the goal of disseminating this?
Quote of the US Ambassador, from the article:
While details are classified, this just sounds like gossip. :/
It’s already been heavily reported that Canadian officials did bring this up with Indian officials behind closed doors. India refused to assist in any way. So now the government is going public because a) Canadians deserve to know what’s going on and that they’re defending our sovereignty, and b) to create pressure on the Indian government.
This isn’t that mysterious.
I appreciate your response. I’d already considered those reports so I can see this is just something I’ll have to be in the minority on. To me, it’s similar to how (as a parallel) news channels have for decades reported specific crime incidents in a more entertainment-focused fashion that doesn’t help anyone, and just seems to be about titillating people who are into true crime instead of talking about overall statistical trends, expectations, &/or possible policy adjustments.
What do we, as Canadians, do with this knowledge? How does it help us or make us safer? What do Indian Canadians, travellers, and people who do business with India do with this info? Just feels like we’re jumping the gun with our collective national sentiments of late, and it reminds me a lot of certain volatile eras of past history.