If you have “Help” instead of “Ins”, replace it with Overgod-tier. Keep pressing it, it will come.

OC, feel free to share.

EDIT; Home is now G-od tier. I didn’t know it would go to the beginning of a line, I always used macros “lol”.

on debian based system PrntScr actually prints stuff you’re looking at in a terminal, if a printer is configured. learned that the hard way, accidentally printing hundreds of pages of html source

Well, Print screen is literally written on it, so you got what you wanted

well yes, but i hit it by accident and it didn’t ask and there wasn’t even a notification. the printer was in another room, so i couldn’t even hear it. (it was at work)

Yeah, it was supposed to be a loud matrix printer on your computer with a parallel cable

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I use Win+Pause as a shortcut to bring up the system menu in Windows. I’ve used it so much over the years, it takes me a minute to figure out how to find that menu when I’m using a keyboard that doesn’t have a Windows key.

I also use Home and End about equally. Quick way to scroll back and forth across text or files/folders.

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Okay I’ll bite…: How are PgUp and PgDown yellow, when Menu is missing from the list?

Hey! Don’t remove the context menu key, I use that! The alternatives are 1. using the mouse (no!) and 2. Alt+F10 which is awkward.

Huh… Do you also move the cursor with your keyboard? And if so, don’t you have an RMB key? If you don’t use a mouse, do you use a GUI that isn’t suited for keyboard navigation?

Right? Same with Home, I use that all the time.

You can take my ins from my cold dead hands!

I remember at one point when I was younger and newer to computers I was typing a document for school and being driven nuts by the damn insert key. Like I had zero clue as to why everything I was typing was just being overwritten every time I needed to go back and change something. I still think the insert key is absolutey evil!

I had a similar experience, but after I eventually figured it out, I grew to appreciate the insert key. Mostly because there were a few times when someone else was getting frustrated with the same problem and I was able to help them. It made me feel powerful; I had suffered, but I now possessed the knowledge to save others from the same fate.

What do you use it for

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For entering overwrite text mode?

Thank you

Two things

  1. Overwriting existing text
  2. Some legacy scheduling software I use at work, where ctrl+ins inserts the copied day for a given coworker. Useful if you need to swap days in the schedule and a coworker has 3 different classes in as many rooms, and in some classes there are students from multiple courses. It’s archaic, but it saves time.
  1. Shift+ins to paste in the shell
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What shell is that? Bash and sh use Emacs bindings, C-y. Or if you meant terminal, urxvt and I’m pretty sure xterm use C-M-v. Maybe that’s the gnome terminal?

Ohh thank you

Ins is so much more deserving of an indicator light than scroll lock - I almost never want Ins engaged in it’s normal meaning… I’d rather just delete word and retype the whole thing.

On a serious note, the PC keyboard seriously needs a revamp. Scroll Lock? What does that even do nowadays?

Switches Excel to scroll the sheet with the arrow keys instead of moving from cell to cell.

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Scroll Lock? What does that even do nowadays?

In Excel it pans the whole worksheet with the arrow keys instead of shifting the active cell.

Same thing in Word, you can move around in the document without shifting your cursor position.

It also does the same kind of thing in most editors where there is an “active editing position” vs a “view of the page”.

At least move the CAPS LOCK key. There’s no good justification for why it should be on the home row.

I generally remap to swap caps lock with left control. Having control on the home row makes Ctrl shortcuts way less of a contortion act.

Useful in general but especially so on laptop keyboards.

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Fucks up what I expect the arrow keys to do in Excel is what.

I usually bind some toggled macros to it (e.g autoclicker). The lil’ light really comes in handy for this use case. I also used it as my “mute” shortcut in various VOIP softwares for a while for the same reason

For those learning how good Home is, wait until you try CTRL + Home. Start of the file.

Also see: CTRL + End

Exactly. I feel that people shaming all these extra buttons must have been raised in the era of smartphones. They are all so useful. Well, except Insert. I still don’t get the point.

ins switches between inserting and replacing text, very useful.

I find inserting text to be extremely confusing.

I personally never find myself needed that, I just selected and overwrite instead.

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For when the text you want to replace is exactly as long as the text you want to replace it with? Wouldn’t you have to toggle it mid typing otherwise? Seems more useful to just shift+ctrl+right arrow and then type.

I make a point of using smartphone onscreen keyboards that have these keys. They are too useful!

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Ooooo! Got any examples?

Hacker’s Keyboard on Android and I created a custom Squeekboard layout for my Linux phone.

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Thanks!

Ctrl+Insert and Shift+Insert ist like Ctrl-C Ctrl-V, but it works in terminals too. Very useful.

Sounds why more awkward to type than CTRL+C

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Ctrl-C halts whatever is running in your terminal though. To be fair, I’ve always just used Ctrl-Shift-C because thats closer to my hand.

Or they vim bindings wherever possible, then those keys are a bit redundant and harder to reach

“pause/break” I can understand if you don’t write compiled code I guess (if you don’t know, Ctrl+break usually stops compilation, very handy when you reread your code while compiling and realized you fucked something up), but “home” is remove-tier ??? It’s one of the most useful keys for editing text my dude

Ctrl+break doesn’t do anything on my machine. Ctrl+c stops a process.

I always have it setup to stop compilation. Picked that up from using visual studio for many years. I admit it’s been a while since I last compiled something from a terminal

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You don’t use Home? Home and End are my two most used keys on this list. IDEs move your cursor to the beginning of the line but after the indents. It’s God -tier.

PgUp and PgDn are also extremely useful when scrolling through logs

On Macs you can just use command left and right. Reuse keys so I get more 😬

I haven’t used literally any of the keys in this photo for years

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Well, sure. I type on my laptop that doesn’t have any of these as physical keys. It’s fn+arrow keys for pg up, pg down, home, and end, for example.

I use a crkbd/corne keyboard so I also don’t have these keys on there either. Just a waste of space imo. Clearly I’m in the minority though.

Seriously this was my first thought.

I actually remap PgDn/PgUp to Home/End on my poorly-designed keyboard that lacks those

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I really miss home and end on my laptop keyboard. (Hate needing to use the Fn+Home key each time.)

Home / End to navigate

Shift home/end to select text

add CTRL to navigate the whole doc / page

add shift again to select whole page

I use them constantly, but I’m flipping between excel (/sheets), web, CLI, GUI most days

I second this! You’re not really a programmer until you know how to use home button.

I don’t usually gatekeep, except to OP.

but modal editors :/

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Don’t take my pause key from me that’s the best key! I just want pausable games to bind with that key again like they used to, guys it’s right there by name and everything. Just started playing rollercoaster tycoon 2 again and, after the mandatory drowning of the first person I saw, I was delighted to find the pause key pauses the game. Even better is if I need to take a break from something pause/break is inclusive of it all. I can walk away from what I’m up to for minute and don’t have to worry that the machine is going to feel abandoned because it’s right there on the key just taking a break little buddy I’ll be back.

I’ll take home over pgup/down any day.

Also Menu key is pretty obscure, I consider it a yellow, since it’s useful when you don’t have a mouse, but there are other shortcuts that can do it (shift+f10)

Pause is useless but only because escape steals all it’s usecases in apps.The only tool I know that uses it prominently is Windbg

Ctrl+ pgup/ pgdn.

Moving tabs in Vscode or browsers.

God Tier on thinkpad keyboard.

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I saw the picture before reading the edit and was trying to imagine what OP was doing that made the end key significantly more useful than the home key, like not going backwards on principle or something.

I was about to say home being useful cause it helps to get to the beginning of the page but its already mentioned in the description of the post 😂😂😂

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