I really want to use AI like llama, ChatGTP, midjourney etc. for something productive. But over the last year the only thing I found use for it was to propose places to go as a family on our Hokaido Japan journey. There were great proposals for places to go.
But perhaps you guys have some great use cases for AI in your life?
Almost nothing. I sometimes use it to rephrase a question or answer. I refuse to become dependent on AI or contribute to it more than I already unwittingly have.
Naming things in programming is a solved problem now. You can just name it Thingy, and then ask Copilot Chat what it should be called when you’re done implementing it
I find a ton of uses for quick Python scripts hammered out with Bing Chat to get random stuff done.
It’s also super useful when brainstorming and fleshing out stuff for the tabletop roleplaying games I run. Just bounce ideas off it, have it write monologues, etc.
I use it all the time to write Microsoft Excel and Microsoft PowerApps formulas. I use it to draft and re-write e-mails. I use it to come up with ideas and brainstorm.
I just gave it the first bit and two text input fields initially and then asked it to add the remainder for me instead of hitting copy paste and changing the numbers a dozen times.
Probably saved me 5 minutes, but I do this kind of thing fairly regularly so it’s probably saving me a half-hour to an hour per week on formulas alone.
I’ve used it to make specific images for work proposals that stock sources may not have. Sometimes for fun, I vary it so it’s in the style of a cartoon or a Japanese woodcut.
I’ve found it useful for getting approaches to programming projects. Rarely does it completely solve my problems, but it keeps me headed in the right direction.
I’m also partway through making my first ARG and it’s super useful for generating ideas, especially when I feed it my established lore because it can keep ideas within that universe.
I’ve found overall, it’s best to use it to fill in the gaps on ideas I have in general. I theoretically could make all of the content myself from scratch, but I’m honestly terrible at all the little details in many cases. It allows me to not dwell on the little stuff.
Nope, nothing. There doesn’t honestly seem to be anything I’d use it for, even then I wouldn’t wanna support it as long as it uses Data its gotten by basically stealing. Maybe once that has gotten better I’ll look more into it, but at the current moment I just don’t have the heart to support it
This article by Kit Walsh, a senior staff attorney at the EFF, and this one by Katherine Klosek, the director of information policy and federal relations at the Association of Research Libraries are a good place to start.
They take what we make, be it art or Text without our or anyones consent, to me thats stealing something. And yes, there are AI Tools fully build on public Domain and open source things, but those are at the moment, few and far between.
By writing text on their platform, you consented to their free and unlimited use of your text. Terms of Service and EULA on practically all platforms has this boilerplate legal agreement. You DID consent. Facebook has access to a massive amount of text, same with Google. They don’t need to bother stealing when so much is already in their databases.
Now if you never wrote any text published on any platform with that agreement, sure you could have an argument there.
Improvements in technology do not guarantee employment for tradespeople of current technology. A whole lot of horses became unemployed when cars became ubiquitous. I’d say the improvement of cars to society is worth the loss of employment to all those who maintained the horse’s infrastructure. Like all those manufacturing jobs lost from the improvement in machines, professional creatives must adapt to the times, or seek other forms of work. No different than any other job in all of history.
But the difference I think is this isn’t just affecting a few niche industries (horses, carts and their associated care). AI is going to replace a huge, huge chunk of the workforce with no new jobs created to replace them. Even in the industrial revolution there were new jobs created - shittier jobs, but jobs. This is different.
Which is exactly the same as how there were no new jobs for horses created. Employment is not a right. You have to either adapt with the changing times, or become unemployed. I agree that it sucks.
Employment is not a right? Well if we continue with a capitalist system and give most people no way to earn a living, we will need something to replace jobs for most people. We should not merely accept that it sucks and let things go to shit. We could pass laws limiting the use of AI or protecting workers, or providing basic income…
Whatever we do we had better figure it out soon, though.
100% agree. Universal Basic Income feels inevitable as a solution. Better and better technology puts machines in place of human labor, with no guarantee that other jobs will come into existence to replace the ones lost. Is it not the ideal goal to have machines do all labor, leaving humans to do what they actually want without fear of homelessness and starvation.
It just kinda sucks right now because these systems don’t exist to support this changing landscape.
I don’t. Played with it a bit but as a capable writer and coder I don’t find it fills a need and just shifts the effort from composition (which I enjoy) to editing and review (which I don’t).
Mostly the same. I tried ChatGPT a few times to get it to generate some code, but mostly it produced code that didn’t even compile and when I asked it to fix it, it created code that didn’t compile in a different way. I enjoy writing code on my own a lot more than having to review some pre-generated code.
Though I use it as a glorified Google sometimes and that is not even so bad.
Out of say a year, I have used it once to help put a work quote into better formatting, the rest of the time I use it solely as a way to suggest films I would enjoy based on a previously warched list, it is actually good at that
I don’t and the energy consumption of public AI services is a stopper for “testing and playing around”. I think I’ll just wait until it takes over the world as advertised.
I would argue they already have. Just as cars used to be slow, inefficient, and loud, compared to today. Overtime their will inevitably be improvements in how they run, but also improvements in dedicated hardware support. Timeline wise, we are enjoying the hot new Model T, knowing eventually we will get to have a modern Honda Civic.
Summarising articles / extracting information / transforming it according to my needs. Everyone knows LLM-bssed summaries are great, but not many folks utilise them to their full extent. For instance, yesterday, Sony published a blog piece on how a bunch of games were discounted on the PlayStation store. This was like a really long list that I couldn’t be bothered reading, so I asked ChatGPT to display just the genres that I’m interested in, and sort them according to popularity. Another example is parsing changelogs for software releases, sometimes some of them are really long (and not sorted properly - maybe just a dump of commit messages), so I’d ask it to summarise the changes, maybe only show me new feature additions, or any breaking changes etc.
Translations. I find ChatGPT excellent at translating Asian languages - expecially all the esoteric terms used in badly-translated Chinese webcomics. I feed in the pinyin word and provide context, and ChatGPT tells me what it means in that context, and also provides alternate translations. This is a 100 times better than just using Google Translate or whatever dumb dictionary-based translator, because context is everything in Asian languages.
Oh that reminds me of another use of it last year. I let it translate some official divorce papers from Korean to German and then let a human read through it and give it a stamp of approval. Payed $5 for the stamp instead $70 for the translation.
Not much. I totally agree with Linus Torvalds in that AIs are just overhyped autocorrects on steroids, and I despise that the artwork generators are all based on theft.
Pretty much all I use them for is to make my life easier at work, like turning a quick draft into a formal email.
I despise that the artwork generators are all based on theft.
Ownership of anything is difficult to define. The internet has accelerated this loosening of definition. If I pay a subscription to use my coffee pot, do I really own it? If I take a picture of the coffee pot, do I own the picture? If I pay a photographer to take a picture of the pot do I own the picture, do I own their time?
I don’t intend on trying changing your opinion on theft, but its interesting to think about how ownership feels very different as time goes by.
If ownership doesn’t exist, then piracy doesn’t exist. Can’t steal that which is not owned. Of course companies don’t like that and consider it “not theft” if they’re doing the stealing.
I totally agree with Linus Torvalds in that AIs are just overhyped autocorrects on steroids
Did he say that? I hope he didn’t mean all kinds of AI. While “overhyped autocorrect on steroids” might be a funny way to describe sequence predictors / generators like transformer models, recurrent neural networks or some reinforcement learning type AIs, it’s not so true for classificators, like the classic feed-forward network (which are part of the building blocks of transformers, btw), or convolutional neural networks, or unsupervised learning methods like clustering algorithms or principal component analysis. Then there are evolutionary algorithms and there are reasoning AIs like bayesan nets and so much much much more different kinds of ML/AI models and algorithms.
It would just show a vast lack of understanding if someone would judge an entire discipline that simply.
There is literally no “artificial intelligence” in any of this. It would show a vast degree of BS, hype, and obfuscation to promote data, statistics, and other computations as “intelligence”.
You are literally wrong.
Nice article, don’t see how that’s relevant though.
Could it be, that you don’t know what “intelligence” is? And what falls under definitions of the “artificial” part in “artificial intelligence”? Maybe you do know, but have a different stance on this. It would be good to make those definitions clear before arguing about it further.
From my point of view, the aforementioned branches, are all important parts of the field of artificial intelligence.
The LLMs for text are also based on “theft”. They’re just much better at hiding it because they have a multitude more source material. Still, it does sometimes happen that they quote a source article verbatim.
But yeah basically they’re just really good copy/paste engines that work with statistical analysis to determine the most likely answer based on what’s written in basically the whole internet :P It’s a bit hard to explain sometimes to people who think that the AI really “thinks”. I always say: If that were the case, why is the response to a really complicated question just as fast as a simple one? The wait is just based on the length of the output.
In terms of the “theft” I think it’s similar ethically to google cache though.
Still, it does sometimes happen that they quote a source article verbatim.
I’m hoping it’ll quote the license I put in my comments (should my text ever be included in the training set) and gets somebody in trouble. But yeah, transformed anything is difficult undo to see what the source material was, so commercial LLMs can mostly just get away with it.
It’s a bit hard to explain sometimes to people who think that the AI really “thinks”
If I had the patience, I’d try to explain the Chinese Room though experiment to the people that misunderstand AIs.
But I don’t, so I usually just shut up 🙂
One of my favorite things to do is pass my speech into it and have it rewrite with fog index “#”. Really helps with speaking to varied audiences about the same topic.
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Almost nothing. I sometimes use it to rephrase a question or answer. I refuse to become dependent on AI or contribute to it more than I already unwittingly have.
I find that LLM powered autocomplete when programming makes me more productive.
Occasionally I’ll use a chatbot to help me reword an email or other text, though this is rare.
Naming things in programming is a solved problem now. You can just name it Thingy, and then ask Copilot Chat what it should be called when you’re done implementing it
I find a ton of uses for quick Python scripts hammered out with Bing Chat to get random stuff done.
It’s also super useful when brainstorming and fleshing out stuff for the tabletop roleplaying games I run. Just bounce ideas off it, have it write monologues, etc.
I use it all the time to write Microsoft Excel and Microsoft PowerApps formulas. I use it to draft and re-write e-mails. I use it to come up with ideas and brainstorm.
What service do you recommend for writing formulas? I’m perfectly capable of writing my own, but I’m just so lazy now.
I just use Chat-GPT, I also have the capability to write my own formulas, but especially for more complex or repetitive formulas it’s faster.
Here’s one for PowerApps I asked it to extend
Patch(Timesheets, LookUp(Timesheeets, ID=SharePointIntegration.SelectedListItemID), {DataString:Concatenate(TextInput1.Text, “;”,TextInput2.Text, “;”, TextInput3.Text, “;”, TextInput1_1.Text, “;”,TextInput2_1.Text, “;”, TextInput3_1.Text, “;”, TextInput1_2.Text, “;”,TextInput2_2.Text, “;”, TextInput3_2.Text, “;”, TextInput1_3.Text, “;”,TextInput2_3.Text, “;”, TextInput3_3.Text, “;”, TextInput1_4.Text, “;”,TextInput2_4.Text, “;”, TextInput3_4.Text, “;”, TextInput1_5.Text, “;”,TextInput2_5.Text, “;”, TextInput3_5.Text, “;”, TextInput1_6.Text, “;”,TextInput2_6.Text, “;”, TextInput3_6.Text, “;”)}); Refresh(‘Timesheets’);
I just gave it the first bit and two text input fields initially and then asked it to add the remainder for me instead of hitting copy paste and changing the numbers a dozen times.
Probably saved me 5 minutes, but I do this kind of thing fairly regularly so it’s probably saving me a half-hour to an hour per week on formulas alone.
I’ve been making a small album of music out of lyrics I wrote and a consistent general style/genre using suno. It’s pretty fun.
As a musician with experience recording albums, even when the songs come out basic, I can always re-record them myself and make them less generic.
I’ve used it to make specific images for work proposals that stock sources may not have. Sometimes for fun, I vary it so it’s in the style of a cartoon or a Japanese woodcut.
I’ve found it useful for getting approaches to programming projects. Rarely does it completely solve my problems, but it keeps me headed in the right direction.
I’m also partway through making my first ARG and it’s super useful for generating ideas, especially when I feed it my established lore because it can keep ideas within that universe.
I’ve found overall, it’s best to use it to fill in the gaps on ideas I have in general. I theoretically could make all of the content myself from scratch, but I’m honestly terrible at all the little details in many cases. It allows me to not dwell on the little stuff.
Nope, nothing. There doesn’t honestly seem to be anything I’d use it for, even then I wouldn’t wanna support it as long as it uses Data its gotten by basically stealing. Maybe once that has gotten better I’ll look more into it, but at the current moment I just don’t have the heart to support it
This article by Kit Walsh, a senior staff attorney at the EFF, and this one by Katherine Klosek, the director of information policy and federal relations at the Association of Research Libraries are a good place to start.
Copying is not stealing. It’s corporate propaganda conflating the two.
They take what we make, be it art or Text without our or anyones consent, to me thats stealing something. And yes, there are AI Tools fully build on public Domain and open source things, but those are at the moment, few and far between.
By writing text on their platform, you consented to their free and unlimited use of your text. Terms of Service and EULA on practically all platforms has this boilerplate legal agreement. You DID consent. Facebook has access to a massive amount of text, same with Google. They don’t need to bother stealing when so much is already in their databases.
Now if you never wrote any text published on any platform with that agreement, sure you could have an argument there.
They use them but they don’t take them. If I steal your bike, you no longer have a bike. If I copy your bike, you still have your bike.
It is stealing lots of potential work and income from professional creatives, though.
Improvements in technology do not guarantee employment for tradespeople of current technology. A whole lot of horses became unemployed when cars became ubiquitous. I’d say the improvement of cars to society is worth the loss of employment to all those who maintained the horse’s infrastructure. Like all those manufacturing jobs lost from the improvement in machines, professional creatives must adapt to the times, or seek other forms of work. No different than any other job in all of history.
But the difference I think is this isn’t just affecting a few niche industries (horses, carts and their associated care). AI is going to replace a huge, huge chunk of the workforce with no new jobs created to replace them. Even in the industrial revolution there were new jobs created - shittier jobs, but jobs. This is different.
Which is exactly the same as how there were no new jobs for horses created. Employment is not a right. You have to either adapt with the changing times, or become unemployed. I agree that it sucks.
Employment is not a right? Well if we continue with a capitalist system and give most people no way to earn a living, we will need something to replace jobs for most people. We should not merely accept that it sucks and let things go to shit. We could pass laws limiting the use of AI or protecting workers, or providing basic income…
Whatever we do we had better figure it out soon, though.
100% agree. Universal Basic Income feels inevitable as a solution. Better and better technology puts machines in place of human labor, with no guarantee that other jobs will come into existence to replace the ones lost. Is it not the ideal goal to have machines do all labor, leaving humans to do what they actually want without fear of homelessness and starvation.
It just kinda sucks right now because these systems don’t exist to support this changing landscape.
I don’t. Played with it a bit but as a capable writer and coder I don’t find it fills a need and just shifts the effort from composition (which I enjoy) to editing and review (which I don’t).
Mostly the same. I tried ChatGPT a few times to get it to generate some code, but mostly it produced code that didn’t even compile and when I asked it to fix it, it created code that didn’t compile in a different way. I enjoy writing code on my own a lot more than having to review some pre-generated code.
Though I use it as a glorified Google sometimes and that is not even so bad.
Out of say a year, I have used it once to help put a work quote into better formatting, the rest of the time I use it solely as a way to suggest films I would enjoy based on a previously warched list, it is actually good at that
Agreed. I love using ChatGPT for content suggestions.
I don’t and the energy consumption of public AI services is a stopper for “testing and playing around”. I think I’ll just wait until it takes over the world as advertised.
I would argue they already have. Just as cars used to be slow, inefficient, and loud, compared to today. Overtime their will inevitably be improvements in how they run, but also improvements in dedicated hardware support. Timeline wise, we are enjoying the hot new Model T, knowing eventually we will get to have a modern Honda Civic.
Summarising articles / extracting information / transforming it according to my needs. Everyone knows LLM-bssed summaries are great, but not many folks utilise them to their full extent. For instance, yesterday, Sony published a blog piece on how a bunch of games were discounted on the PlayStation store. This was like a really long list that I couldn’t be bothered reading, so I asked ChatGPT to display just the genres that I’m interested in, and sort them according to popularity. Another example is parsing changelogs for software releases, sometimes some of them are really long (and not sorted properly - maybe just a dump of commit messages), so I’d ask it to summarise the changes, maybe only show me new feature additions, or any breaking changes etc.
Translations. I find ChatGPT excellent at translating Asian languages - expecially all the esoteric terms used in badly-translated Chinese webcomics. I feed in the pinyin word and provide context, and ChatGPT tells me what it means in that context, and also provides alternate translations. This is a 100 times better than just using Google Translate or whatever dumb dictionary-based translator, because context is everything in Asian languages.
Oh that reminds me of another use of it last year. I let it translate some official divorce papers from Korean to German and then let a human read through it and give it a stamp of approval. Payed $5 for the stamp instead $70 for the translation.
Not much. I totally agree with Linus Torvalds in that AIs are just overhyped autocorrects on steroids, and I despise that the artwork generators are all based on theft.
Pretty much all I use them for is to make my life easier at work, like turning a quick draft into a formal email.
Ownership of anything is difficult to define. The internet has accelerated this loosening of definition. If I pay a subscription to use my coffee pot, do I really own it? If I take a picture of the coffee pot, do I own the picture? If I pay a photographer to take a picture of the pot do I own the picture, do I own their time?
I don’t intend on trying changing your opinion on theft, but its interesting to think about how ownership feels very different as time goes by.
If ownership doesn’t exist, then piracy doesn’t exist. Can’t steal that which is not owned. Of course companies don’t like that and consider it “not theft” if they’re doing the stealing.
Anti Commercial-AI license
Did he say that? I hope he didn’t mean all kinds of AI. While “overhyped autocorrect on steroids” might be a funny way to describe sequence predictors / generators like transformer models, recurrent neural networks or some reinforcement learning type AIs, it’s not so true for classificators, like the classic feed-forward network (which are part of the building blocks of transformers, btw), or convolutional neural networks, or unsupervised learning methods like clustering algorithms or principal component analysis. Then there are evolutionary algorithms and there are reasoning AIs like bayesan nets and so much much much more different kinds of ML/AI models and algorithms.
It would just show a vast lack of understanding if someone would judge an entire discipline that simply.
Copying isn’t theft. There is no “theft”.
It’s just a problem with the whole copyright laws not being fit for purpose.
After all, all art is theft.
There is literally no “artificial intelligence” in any of this. It would show a vast degree of BS, hype, and obfuscation to promote data, statistics, and other computations as “intelligence”.
https://www.newyorker.com/science/annals-of-artificial-intelligence/there-is-no-ai
Well of course if you redefine words all of the time then nothing is anything right.
You are literally wrong. Nice article, don’t see how that’s relevant though.
Could it be, that you don’t know what “intelligence” is? And what falls under definitions of the “artificial” part in “artificial intelligence”? Maybe you do know, but have a different stance on this. It would be good to make those definitions clear before arguing about it further.
From my point of view, the aforementioned branches, are all important parts of the field of artificial intelligence.
The LLMs for text are also based on “theft”. They’re just much better at hiding it because they have a multitude more source material. Still, it does sometimes happen that they quote a source article verbatim.
But yeah basically they’re just really good copy/paste engines that work with statistical analysis to determine the most likely answer based on what’s written in basically the whole internet :P It’s a bit hard to explain sometimes to people who think that the AI really “thinks”. I always say: If that were the case, why is the response to a really complicated question just as fast as a simple one? The wait is just based on the length of the output.
In terms of the “theft” I think it’s similar ethically to google cache though.
I’m hoping it’ll quote the license I put in my comments (should my text ever be included in the training set) and gets somebody in trouble. But yeah, transformed anything is difficult undo to see what the source material was, so commercial LLMs can mostly just get away with it.
Anti Commercial-AI license
If I had the patience, I’d try to explain the Chinese Room though experiment to the people that misunderstand AIs. But I don’t, so I usually just shut up 🙂
I’ve used it to tweak a speech I was writing to make it more appropriate to my intended audience….
One of my favorite things to do is pass my speech into it and have it rewrite with fog index “#”. Really helps with speaking to varied audiences about the same topic.
I use them mostly for